The terrorists are muslims? If so, its an embarassment for the innocent muslims! Muslims are 'terrorists', 'innocents', 'embarassed',emotinal',and what not? All are muslims! Should the 'terrorists'not be earmarked by a separate identity? To do that is it insensible to ask all muslims in India to declare to Government an answer to a simple question, "Are you connected with terrorists?' Let them say "no" . Will then the Congress and communists shout'muslim prestige is at stake!" Its reall;y so! But when they cannot do anything to eradicate 'terrorism 'in INDIA ,will they go on showing sympathy to'zihadi' muslims on the pretext of protection of immocent muslims? A great LOOPHOLE ! Its GOVT DUTY TO PLUG IT! Its my opinion that all peace loving muslims will agree to it unless they are prevented! Who will prevent! Just imagine !
Pak muslims are screwing Indian Muslims by keeping bombs in Mosques. Please stop this as soon as possible. The moral of the story is: 1.Gulaaaam Azhad, Sonia-Khan, Rahul-khan, and other muslim leaders in congress should support Afzhal guru's Hanging. 2. Sincerely uplift poor Indian muslim brothers and sisters.
RE:Pak Muslims Vs Indian Muslims
by facelessindian on May 22, 2007 05:25 AM Permalink
i m really finding it starnge that why no one is saying it was a task of VHP RSS and hindu organizations.
RE:Pak Muslims Vs Indian Muslims
by vimal on May 22, 2007 06:32 AM Permalink
no one is saying because it wasnt an act of VHP or RSS. Grow and see the things..
RE:Pak Muslims Vs Indian Muslims
by Bala Sahane on May 22, 2007 08:32 AM Permalink
We will be very happy if irt was task of RSS and VHP more happy than the current situations.I wam waiting to know if they wer ereally in that............
RE:Pak Muslims Vs Indian Muslims
by deep dar on May 22, 2007 09:09 AM Permalink
hey faceless Indian, do u ever read the news? IT WAS THE JOB OF HUJI AND LeT. See, RSS / VHP aren't jehadi organisations, like Muslim organisations are. You will have a tough time accepting this fact, as "sach kadwa hota hai"!
RE:RIGHT RELIGION
by Sai Puducode on May 22, 2007 01:41 AM Permalink
Vedic Hinduism, Upanishad, Bahgavad Gita and Vedanta represent true spiritualism. It deals with human psychology beyond mind. It deals with space, time, creation, metaphyscis, and philosophy, cycle of soul reincarnation, casual effect, and cosmology, creation of universe and concept of life. HINDUISM IS WORLD's most INTELLECTUAL religion. Read Vedanta, Upanishad, Bhagavd Gita and Vedas.
There is no true religion except Hinduism, which is the oldest religion in this planet & used to be known as Sanathana Dharma or the %u201Ceternal right conduct%u201D. Read Advaitha Vedanta and Bhagavad Gita. These two spiritual classics relate religion with psychology and metaphysics where as no religion has ever attempted to touch the paradigm of consciousness and mind with respect to soul and ego.
"When I read the Bhagavad-Gita (HINDU HOLY BOOK) and reflect about how God created this universe everything else seems so superfluous." ~ Albert Einstein. http://hinduism.about.com/library/weekly/extra/bl-gitacomments.htm
"The Bhagavad-Gita (HINDU HOLY BOOK) is an empire of thought and in its philosophical teachings Krishna has all the attributes of the full-fledged montheistic deity and at the same time the attributes of the Upanishadic absolute." ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson
"When doubts haunt me, when disappointments stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those who meditate on the Gita will derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day." ~ Mahatma Gandhi
"In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the Bhagavad-Gita (HINDU HOLY BOOK), in comparison with which our modern world and its literature seems puny and trivial." ~ Henry David Thoreau
"The idea that man is like unto an inverted tree seems to have been current in by gone ages. The link with Vedic conceptions is provided by Plato in his Timaeus in which it states..." behold we are not an earthly but a heavenly plant." ~ Carl Jung
"The Bhagavad-Gita (HINDU HOLY BOOK) is the most systematic statement of spiritual evolution of endowing value to mankind. It is one of the most clear and comprehensive summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed; hence its enduring value is subject not only to India but to all of humanity. " ~ Aldous Huxley
"When I read the Bhagavad-Gita (HINDU HOLY BOOK) and reflect about how God created this universe everything else seems so superfluous." ~ Albert Einstein. http://hinduism.about.com/library/weekly/extra/bl-gitacomments.htm
RE:RE:RIGHT RELIGION
by prakash kumar on May 22, 2007 03:20 AM Permalink
Muslims flaunt around saying they do idol worship. What is that they circle around in mecca. Further if they belive in no idol worhsip becuase temple is nothing a manifestation of worhshipping place. So if dont worhship idols then you should not built mosques. Idol are nothing but symbols of one's belief. So simple dont harp around saying muslims are enlightened. It is the most primitive relgion on earth. Regarding your claim that islam is the oldest religion is nothing but bullshit.
RE:OLDEST RELIGION
by Sai Puducode on May 22, 2007 01:44 AM Permalink
Excerpt : This was the beginning of the destruction of the classical ancient Indian civilization, and start of the medieval age of Islamic darkness in India. The 11th century witnessed another Islamic murderer and plunderer, Sultan Mahmud Ghaznavi an agent of Islamic Caliph, who utterly ruined the great Indian civilization and looted and plundered most of its wealth. Fifty thousand Hindus were massacred in just one of his attacks at Somnath; he invaded India more than 17 times. Thousands of Hindu men and women were sent to the Islamic Afghani slave markets. The highly cultured and civilized daughters of the noble Hindu families were sold to the illiterate, un-cultured and barbaric Afghanis for equivalent of just one Frank (Pound/Dollar) each. After every Afghani Muslim had four wives each, there were lots of surplus women left; to that the evil Islamic mullahs responded with an ingenious translation of Koranic verses proving that Allah allowed each Muslim to marry 18 women at a time along with an unlimited number of women as concubines. Soon the new military instruments of the Islamic Caliph, the Turks and the Moguls followed, decimated captured Delhi and turned whole of India into a grand open-air slave camp. Sultan Firoze Shah Tughlaq- an Islamic Turk ruler had 100,000 men-slaves and thousands of female sex-slaves in his harem; the pious Islamic Mongol (Mogul) Emperor Shahjehan had 15,000 female sex-slaves and concubines for his personal harem. Indeed, the Islamic Turk invaders and rulers did the same in India as they did in Armenia-the whole races of peoples were exterminated. (However, credit must be given here to the agnostic and secular-minded, humanist Mogul Emperor Akbar the Great who refused the title of "the King of Muslims" and preferred to be called "the shadow of God"- for his God, he declared (in accordance with the mind and language of his age), is the beneficial deity and protector of all-Hindus, Muslims and other races of humans and creatures alike. He gave up his faith in Islam and tried his genius in creating a pluralistic religion comprising traditions of all the prevalent religions and ideologies of India. He even invited the Christian Jesuits priests from Goa to his ideology-discussion-palace but could not swallow their childish Jesus-son-of-God myth). :Dr Younus Shaikh From http://www.rationalistinternational.net/article/20041120_en.html
RE:OLDEST RELIGION
by Sai Puducode on May 22, 2007 01:45 AM Permalink
Excerpt : "There is no place for optimism for a liberal Islam. Nearly all Islamic states and states have failed to appreciate the basic human rights of their people, their women and their minorities. Saudis and Emirates are the worst offenders; and are the financial godfathers of fundamentalism, extremism and Islamic backwardness everywhere.. Nearly every Islamic country is dangerous not only for itself but for the world as a whole. Pakistan, for example, after supplying Iran and with Korea with nuke-secrets continues to offer the dangerous technology; Vietnam and Brazil are the new customers. The nuke-terrorist Dr. Abdul Qadir Kahn is safe, well protected and facilitated by the State of Pakistan, with full impunity, of course.
You civilized people! Yesterday you refused to acknowledge the dangers inherent in the rise of the Christian Nazi and Communist ideologies. Yesterday you supported Islamic Taliban even when they trampled rights of their women under their feet. Your refusal to confront militant Islam today may cost us more dearly than our individual lives-our cherished achievement -our civilization. Beliefs have consequences-the centrality of Islam to mental, social, intellectual and cultural backwardness; organized offences against women and minorities; fundamentalism, extremism and modern terrorism are impossible to deny. "Religions of peace and tolerance" are mere empty words.
Islam is an organized crime against humanity! "
Dr Younus Shaikh From http://www.rationalistinternational.net/article/20041120_en.html
We know that, papistanis. We are waiting for your next confession - that YOU did it. . Note: as soon as it is clear that this was done by muslims themselves, and that it was executed from bogusdesh, papistanis are very happy and have started issuing statements. But we know that they are hand in glove with the bongdeshis.
RE:Haha
by Indian Guy on May 22, 2007 12:15 AM Permalink
Hey Kaushik I like your ingenuity of the Papi - stan and Bogus-Desh but why do u have to call it to be done by Muslims. Those who kill and murder dont belong to any religion
RE:Haha
by Bala Sahane on May 22, 2007 08:35 AM Permalink
As long as they are Muslims they have no religion.If they belong to any other religion then you want Jihad against them,please wait some more time and see what happne sto al of you.. It i sbecause of Hinduism that you can keep your head straight and say we are Indians .The paikistanis have hard time telling thie rnationaliy outside Pakisatan........
RE:Haha
by Kaushik Das on May 22, 2007 11:24 AM Permalink
Well, Indian, muslims here were involved with their counterparts in bongdesh. why should we not blame muslims? How did the bombs get into the place? the objectie was to create tension with hindus and not surprisingly, muslims immediately started stoning shops and clashing with the police - so, it was a very potent means of creating tension. Now, how were these terrorists able to carry out a blast with no one knowing it? It simply means that there wre people knowing it but they kept quiet because they probably did not realise that this was meant for a mosque.
RE:RE:Haha
by Kaushik Das on May 22, 2007 11:27 AM Permalink
AGain, i agree that those who kill and murder cannot be considered men of religion. But then why is osama, a killer and murderer, so popular among muslims that his posters are hung in AMU and lallu yadav takes an osama lookalike with him to garner muslim votes??? Why is he not considered a man of no religion? The fact is that osama is following islamic teachings to the 'T' and therefore, technically, his religiousness cannot be doubted at all.
RE:RE:Why Muslims are involved in Terrorism,Rape..?
by mai bindas on May 22, 2007 01:04 AM Permalink
Yehh rite... shoot them all..... indian police force shot 14 protestors.....was that because they were for a certain religion... talking about terrorist....these are the main terrorist who does all kind of crime wearing uniform...
RE:RE:RE:Why Muslims are involved in Terrorism,Rape..?
by Kaushik Das on May 22, 2007 11:34 AM Permalink
bindas, so what do you think they should hve done? not shot the rioters???
firstly, you blast bombs and then you only start rioting. very good.
RE:Why Muslims are involved in Terrorism,Rape..?
by Neeraj Awasthi on May 22, 2007 02:13 AM Permalink
No its not because of any religion. People were shot in Nandigram, WB too. So please stop inciting people. Stop making the muslims feel insecure. This will only do harm to India. People of all religion want this madness to stop.
RE:Why Muslims are involved in Terrorism,Rape..?
by rajaram on May 22, 2007 12:01 AM Permalink
You can show me any number of statistics but Religion has NOTHING to do with terrorism. Terrorists have NO religion. Nothing more to add.
RE:Why Muslims are involved in Terrorism,Rape..?
by Rahul India on May 22, 2007 12:10 AM Permalink
Yes, I agree with you ... Any Terrorist, Hindu/Sikh/Christian/Muslim are just existing for name ... by deeds they do not follow any religion.
No religion promotes terrorism ... only individuals do
RE:RE:Why Muslims are involved in Terrorism,Rape..?
by Kaushik Das on May 22, 2007 11:32 AM Permalink
I disagree, rahul... read faithfreedom.org to understand religions that promote terrorism. . Hatred is also ingrained in christianity but thankfully, most born-christians are better people using their own conscience (just like in hinduism, where conscience rules). islam has taken things a bit further and ordered killings in the name of religion. that is why, normal religious people in islam become killers.
RE:Why Muslims are involved in Terrorism,Rape..?
by irfan khan on May 22, 2007 12:16 AM Permalink
Please do not coonect an Individual act to religion .... religion is way above its always has been one individuals personal act...call it bombing or rape ....guys we have grown up now start making out the difference
RE:Why Muslims are involved in Terrorism,Rape..?
by rajaram on May 22, 2007 12:14 AM Permalink
Agree Rahul, you never know there could be political influences and gains behind all this. Its a dirty world my friend.
RE:Why Muslims are involved in Terrorism,Rape..?
by its me on May 21, 2007 10:43 PM Permalink
your thoughts are base less and foolish mr rahul in fact you people are involved in rape and terrorism but are hidden as here the culprits and the evaluator are of same and you people deny the deeds of your own people
RE:Why Muslims are involved in Terrorism,Rape..?
by Nice on May 21, 2007 11:50 PM Permalink
Yes, read this news & see who is involved :
21 May, 2007 l 1210 hrs
80-year-old Indian priest accused of rape in T&T
PORT-OF-SPAIN: A senior Hindu missionary from India, whose trips here attract hordes of visitors including ministers, has been charged with raping a young woman at his centre in south Trinidad. The 85-year-old swami, who is from a prominent Hindu organisation in India, was charged Sunday evening with raping a 22-year old woman at his centre in south Trinidad. She had gone to seek spiritual assistance and guidance from the swami when she was raped, according to police officials in the city of San Fernando. Doctors who examined the woman said she was a virgin. The swami, whose name is being withheld pending his appearance in a court on Monday, has been visiting this oil-rich republic for several years now. His last visit was in June 2005. Whenever he comes to Trinidad there is always an avalanche of believers to see him. They think he can cure social, marital and financial problems. His guests have included government ministers, top corporate executives and senior religious leaders. The incident is likely to cause consternation among the 24 percent of diehard Hindus, as well as among the non-Hindus and Christians who always revere the spiritual luminaries visiting here. Out of Trindiad and Tobago's one million population, about 40 percent is of Indian origin. These include Christians and Hindus. Legal representatives for the swami are calling for a speedy hearing of the case.
RE:RE:Why Muslims are involved in Terrorism,Rape..?
by Kaushik Das on May 22, 2007 11:30 AM Permalink
The news report said 85 years old. Anyway, i doubt if an 85 year old can have secual relations.
RE:Why Muslims are involved in Terrorism,Rape..?
by me on May 21, 2007 11:50 PM Permalink
but the reality is not what u say .. facts prove around the world that what u say is not true ! didnt u see the killing of a young girl by stoning while men stood around and cheered in iraq ? Barbaric is your world !
RE:Why Muslims are involved in Terrorism,Rape..?
by mai bindas on May 22, 2007 12:59 AM Permalink
the girl who was killed by a tribe in Iraq doesnot follow islam as a religion .. grow up and try to read the whole article ...dont come to a conclusion just by reading the headlines......
RE:Why Muslims are involved in Terrorism,Rape..?
by Kaushik Das on May 22, 2007 11:29 AM Permalink
so, why should she be killed if she does not follow islam. when dicussing islam, you guys defend it by saying 'there is no force in islam'. but when it comes to practice, you kill a girl because she did not follow islam.
If WE do the same thing here, kill you muslims because you do not follow hinduism (as well as the law of the land), how would it feel?
Scholar gets 5 yr RI for raping lover 21 May, 2007 l 2033 hrs ISTlPTI NEW DELHI: A Ph.D scholar from Jawaharlal Nehru University (JNU), charged with raping his girlfriend after intoxicating her four years ago, has been sentenced to five years rigorous imprisonment by a court here. Taking strong exception to conduct of Gufran Mustafa, then pursuing Ph.D from the elite university, Additional Sessions Judge S P Garg said, "the prosecutrix was honest enough to admit the fact of her having established physical relations with the accused prior to the incident. However, the said relations were made with her free consent and he had no license to violate her privacy as and when he wished".
Relying on the well-corroborated testimony of the 20-year-old victim, the judge refused aspersions on her character caste by the defence, saying "Mustafa was a student doing his Ph.D. The acts of establishing physical relationship with the prosecutrix prior to the incident can equally be a reflection on his character also". The court, in a recent order, declined the suggestion that the accused was roped in the false case by the victim's father as Mustafa had refused to marry his daughter and said that no father could stoop so low as to bring forth a false charge of rape on his unmarried daughter with a view to taking revenge. "The defence plea defies human probabilities," it said, noting that the negotiations for marriage between the two had broken much before the incident and no other ulterior motive behind implicating him could be proved. Mustafa, who after completion of his Ph.D from JNU had opened a cyber cafe at the gate of the campus, had a steady relation with the victim until he along with a friend had on October 12, 2002 ravished her after administering some stupefying substance, the prosecution had alleged. Mustafa had the next day allegedly called up the girl's sister asking to take her home from Ramlila Ground here. An FIR was lodged with the Vasant Vihar Police Station on October 17 that year, accusing him and his friend of raping the victim. He was arrested the next day along with the co-accused, who was acquitted by the court later as the victim refused to identify him as the other offender. The defence had also raised doubt on the credibility of the girl's deposition in view of delay of five days in lodging an FIR but the court denied acceding to the plea and observed that she had sufficiently explained the reasons for delay and there was nothing to disbelieve her explanation. The prosecution proved its case against Mustafa with the help of 16 witnesses, including the victim's parents and her sister, who was regarded as the eye-witness as she had taken her sister home just after the fateful incident
RE:Muslim(Gufran Mustafa) accused for Raping a girl
by Nice on May 21, 2007 11:34 PM Permalink
Dhongi Baba - Budda Khoosath
21 May, 2007 l 1210 hrs
80-year-old Indian priest accused of rape in T&T
PORT-OF-SPAIN: A senior Hindu missionary from India, whose trips here attract hordes of visitors including ministers, has been charged with raping a young woman at his centre in south Trinidad. The 85-year-old swami, who is from a prominent Hindu organisation in India, was charged Sunday evening with raping a 22-year old woman at his centre in south Trinidad. She had gone to seek spiritual assistance and guidance from the swami when she was raped, according to police officials in the city of San Fernando. Doctors who examined the woman said she was a virgin. The swami, whose name is being withheld pending his appearance in a court on Monday, has been visiting this oil-rich republic for several years now. His last visit was in June 2005. Whenever he comes to Trinidad there is always an avalanche of believers to see him. They think he can cure social, marital and financial problems. His guests have included government ministers, top corporate executives and senior religious leaders. The incident is likely to cause consternation among the 24 percent of diehard Hindus, as well as among the non-Hindus and Christians who always revere the spiritual luminaries visiting here. Out of Trindiad and Tobago's one million population, about 40 percent is of Indian origin. These include Christians, Hindus and Muslims. Legal representatives for the swami are calling for a speedy hearing of the case.
If Pakistan is not involved in any terrorism in India why don't they leave us to our fate. Just go back to where they belong to from every piece of Indian territory and kashmir. We will solve all our problems just as we have been living together....Hindus and Muslims. Why do they want act as a big brother. Someone enlighten me please!