RE:Kallas...
by Manoj Tuli on May 18, 2007 11:14 PM Permalink
Long live congress. See what they did to us in the last 60 years. And under the able guidence of Arjun Singh and Signora, they are again at it!
RE:Kallas...
by Inadvertently Human on May 18, 2007 11:17 PM Permalink
Why dont we stop bitching about what is happening and do something about it? How many of us want to finish BE, take GRE and go to US/UK to polish white man's shoes (including myself)? How many of us want to be the change they want to make?
How many educated Indians are joining politics lately?
India needs a major overhauling! Perhaps, we need a dictator to whip lash and bring order before restoring democracy.
RE:Notice the comments
by americaisgreat on May 18, 2007 11:11 PM Permalink
I have seen any hindoos critizing RSS/VHP?Bajrang Dal/BJP terrorist organizations openly.
RE:Notice the comments
by pranat on May 18, 2007 11:25 PM Permalink
thanks for doing reseach on Ram, may he bless u in any case. Ram and Rahim, Allah and Ishwar are the same.
RE:Notice the comments
by Manoj Tuli on May 18, 2007 11:15 PM Permalink
well why criticize? where have they planted bombs. And dont post a filthy emptional nonsense, give evidence if you have.
RE:THE ROOT
by mike on May 18, 2007 11:13 PM Permalink
who did this...its not only wrong to blame muslims but also quite unbelievable, since we know of the Sorabuddin shiek and othre innocent muslims cases who hav been killed by Police. so this time its the game of hindu extremist or some police officers motivated by RSS. VHP ideology
RE:THE ROOT
by on May 19, 2007 12:17 AM Permalink
Dear Naren, It seems you are either the self centric or Hindu fundamentalist without having least respect for others. The person who is not having respect for self and responsibility for the society only can have suchthoughts. My Dear Naren .. what do you think of India.... Do you only have the right to live in India? How can you be so irresponsible for the mankind? Being a Hindu do you think got the power of saying anything which comes to your sick mind...YES YOU ARE A SICK MINDED.....Any body who born in India is an Indian AND all Indian citizens have the common rights.Anybody cannot ride on others religion and practice.
I would like to answer to your questions and also would like to put acroos some questions for all readers...
1) What your excuse now when its establish that Islam and Muslims aren't tolerate to people of other religion and faith? A). What is established? Islam teaches peace and harmony. I know you will not agree, because your mind is so moulded and you dont want to go through what it says...you are purely dependent on false media presentation...Just because of some sick minded people like you, who spreads the wrong misinterpretations and some muslims who is doing non islamic acts are presenting a faulty image of Islam. The muslim who does not follow Islam is a non-muslim. So there may be few such non-muslims. For that nobody can blame the any religion entirely.
2) Shall we Hindus in India should follow the same course what your Muslims brother are doing in other country? Hello Dear Brother dont get so excited...You are equal to any body else in this country ....not more than that... we are indians....dont know how you were broght up..no respect for the society...
3) Why our Muslims brother there in India doesn't protest when there is any terrorist attack in Hindu dominant area?
Do want all the muslims should stand in front of your home and say that we are protesting the terrorist attack? Any muslim does have the same feeling what you have on the incident.
4) Why our Muslims brother in India declare unofficial holiday to protest the president bush visit in India? When they doesn\'t come forward to demonstrate there nationalism to execute afzal who attack our parliament and killed our innocent jawans?
A)What is your problem if anybody is protesting the Bush's visit. In India there are hundreds of protests going on. Why Muslims always pushed in the frame? By the way you have not protest the Hyderabad blast.. why?
5) Why farook abdullah have to make a nation statement that country will divide if Indian government executes afzal?
Go and ask the Farooq...
If krishna says or Qoran says..It says the peace and harmony only.........Only thing which needs to be corrected is your sick mind....to understand that...
Request to the group: Please do not post messages which makes us feel that we are very narrow minded and vertical thinkers...let us think laterally and be open minded.....Thanks to the readres in advance...
RE:THE ROOT
by Kaushik Das on May 18, 2007 11:11 PM Permalink
one more point: muslims did not protest the visit of musharraf, who killed jawans in kargil and continues to send terrorists in our land. muslims protest the visit of bush who actually helped muslims in afghanistan by throwing the talilban out.
RE:RE:THE ROOT
by E mazhar on May 18, 2007 11:29 PM Permalink
afganistan is one of the least equiped country in military. coming and claiming victory is not a big achievement. screw bush
RE:THE ROOT
by mike on May 18, 2007 11:27 PM Permalink
Dear Naren Biswas you are one of those hindu terrorist, who want to create terror in our country..you and your like minded bigots are responsible...for all this voilence in india.. Let me clarify that if islam advocate voilence or as you wrongly quoted convert the Kafirs by force..then you are one of those ignorent hindu fanatic who doesnt know the Islam, because muslims ruled india for hundered's of years...they could have converted you all by force...but hindus are still majotity in india thre has been millions of ignorant scumbs like you...who want to create hate for islam...but islam is the true religion and its going to stay...may allah bring you out of your ignorance
RE:THE ROOT
by mubeen khan on May 18, 2007 11:11 PM Permalink
Quranic verses are in the context of arab situations."kafir" word was used for those who occupied mecca that time and those who looted and raped women of followers of Prophet Mohd.
RE:THE ROOT
by Shailender Kumar on May 18, 2007 11:27 PM Permalink
I do not think so that this is a responsible thought. Try to cultivate the feeling that religion is for man..... not that man is for religion. Once this is understood by one and all, the fights on the basis of religion will vanish. Let all people of any religion live with peace and love in INDIA. If you see that someone has done something wrong, this does not mean you also have to do something wrong. Two wrongs never make one right. Your thought are as much fundamentalist as are the thoughts you are complaining about. I deplore these thoughts in strongest possible words. If some faction of perticular group or religion do wrong that does not entitle you to bash everyone from that perticular religion. Please do not forget that in the freedom strugle and all wars that India has faught, people from all the religion have shed their blood. What you see about Afzal is the result of politics of some political parties who doesn't know that by their action what type of signal they are giving. Every country has seen these type of political game. It is not new. If you consider yourself as educated, try to bring people close.
Besides the Hindu terrorists from the well-established training camps in India under the saffronazis, other Hindu mercenaries too are active all over from Ayodhya to Kashmir. The infamous comment made by Lal Kishenchand Advani, the ex-Home Minister of the expired BJP-led NDA government, that Bajrangis being terrorists is a joke, only spurred the brutes of Bajrang Dal in their crime spree. Dara Singh, a Bajrangi, had successfully terrorized Orissa by burning alive Pastor Graham Staines and his two sons.
Advani%u2019s clean chit to the Dal in the wake of this heinous crime made him look more an ogre than a sentient human. George Fernandes, the then Defense Minister, had called it a foreign conspiracy, not a Hindutva crime. That Hindu terrorists have been the backbone of RSS-VHP-BJP-Bajrang Dal, the communal fascist combine, has been evidenced time and time again. Its so-called %u201Ctrishul-dikshas%u201D (knife distribution) are naked and subversive paramilitary training camps for its militias. Not only are the enlistees given their arms and training but also incantatory lessons in hate and violence against minorities, who, they are told, have to be bloodily extirpated, in order for the land exclusively to belong to Hindus.
This climate of sacred savagery spawned by the saffronazis has successfully spread the miasma of bigoted violence all over. The abundance of firearms freely made available to the HinduTaliban gangsters empowers the anti-socials and prods them to %u201Caction%u201D. This is an investment towards routine training in ethnic cleansing and eventually establishing Hindu Rashtra, envisaged by Savarkar and Golwalkar, the prime mentors of assassins, arsonists, thugs and rapists %u201Cserving the cause of Hindutva%u201D.
A glimpse of the climate of Hindu crimes rampant is in order. An article, titled Gujarat 2002 Visits Gohana [Haryana] by Shamsul Islam (Milli Gazette,
16-30 Sep. 05, p.8, New Delhi) lays out %u201CSimilarities with Gujarat 2002 Carnage%u201D:
%u2022 %u201CDalit houses and properties were burnt by releasing gas from cylinders. Big and well constructed houses were both looted and burnt whereas smaller houses were only looted. The arsonists carried away moveable properties in carts they had brought with them to transport their booty.
%u2022 Police and law and order machinery stood as mock spectators. %u2022 Only Dalit properties were targeted. If there happened to be a non-Dalit property, it was spared, which means the attackers had full knowledge of the identities of the home-owners. For instance, in Arya Nagar which has mixed population, only Dalit houses were blasted. Likewise, at Samta Chowk market (adjacent to Balmiki Basti), out of around 20 shops only a junk-dealer%u2019s shop owned by a Dalit was looted and completely bu
RE:RE:5 Questions
by E mazhar on May 18, 2007 11:36 PM Permalink
Hindu is not a religion it is just a geography name. person who is Hindu(non-Muslim) go to other country and they mix in their culture forgetting their own, since they have no religion
Hindu Terrorists The Hindu terrorists By I.K. Sukla ; September 26, 2005
Besides the Hindu terrorists from the well-established training camps in India under the saffronazis, other Hindu mercenaries too are active all over from Ayodhya to Kashmir. The infamous comment made by Lal Kishenchand Advani, the ex-Home Minister of the expired BJP-led NDA government, that Bajrangis being terrorists is a joke, only spurred the brutes of Bajrang Dal in their crime spree. Dara Singh, a Bajrangi, had successfully terrorized Orissa by burning alive Pastor Graham Staines and his two sons.
Advani%u2019s clean chit to the Dal in the wake of this heinous crime made him look more an ogre than a sentient human. George Fernandes, the then Defense Minister, had called it a foreign conspiracy, not a Hindutva crime. That Hindu terrorists have been the backbone of RSS-VHP-BJP-Bajrang Dal, the communal fascist combine, has been evidenced time and time again. Its so-called %u201Ctrishul-dikshas%u201D (knife distribution) are naked and subversive paramilitary training camps for its militias. Not only are the enlistees given their arms and training but also incantatory lessons in hate and violence against minorities, who, they are told, have to be bloodily extirpated, in order for the land exclusively to belong to Hindus.
This climate of sacred savagery spawned by the saffronazis has successfully spread the miasma of bigoted violence all over. The abundance of firearms freely made available to the HinduTaliban gangsters empowers the anti-socials and prods them to %u201Caction%u201D. This is an investment towards routine training in ethnic cleansing and eventually establishing Hindu Rashtra, envisaged by Savarkar and Golwalkar, the prime mentors of assassins, arsonists, thugs and rapists %u201Cserving the cause of Hindutva%u201D.
A glimpse of the climate of Hindu crimes rampant is in order. An article, titled Gujarat 2002 Visits Gohana [Haryana] by Shamsul Islam (Milli Gazette, 16-30 Sep. 05, p.8, New Delhi) lays out %u201CSimilarities with Gujarat 2002 Carnage%u201D:
%u2022 %u201CDalit houses and properties were burnt by releasing gas from cylinders. Big and well constructed houses were both looted and burnt whereas smaller houses were only looted. The arsonists carried away moveable properties in carts they had brought with them to transport their booty.
%u2022 Police and law and order machinery stood as mock spectators. %u2022 Only Dalit properties were targeted. If there happened to be a non-Dalit property, it was spared, which means the attackers had full knowledge of the identities of the home-owners. For instance, in Arya Nagar which has mixed population, only Dalit houses were blasted. Likewise, at Samta Chowk market (adjacent to Balmiki Basti), out of around 20 shops only a junk-dealer%u2019s shop owned by a Dalit was looted and completely burnt.
%u2022 A hate campaign against Dalits preceded the actual attack on Dalits. Dalit localities were declared to be hotbeds of criminals. The local administration did nothing to discourage or check this activity.
%u2022 These were not only Hindu Dalit houses which were burnt but also those owned and inhabited by Christian Dalits were similarly looted and burnt.%u201D
But the %u201Ccause%u201D gets served in many ways else too, unimagined by the manic mentors. Below are just a few examples.
1. Ramesh Pande. He was among the terrorists who stormed the Ayodhya temple on 5 July. The state government rewarded his family with a lakh of rupees ex- gratia. More compensation to family members is said to be under consideration.
2. Doctor S.K.Pandita, charged with sheltering militants in Kashmir, along with Pt. Dalip Kumar, arrested, for financing them. Pandita disclosed he carried messages and ammunition to the militants.
3. Sham Lal and Kirpal Singh, in Rajouri-Poonch, belong to Hizbul Mujahideen and Sanjay to Lashkar-e-Toiba, according to SP J.P.Singh.
4. In 2001, Kuldeep Singh, with seven others, killed in an encounter in Chatter Gali, Doda district. Elder brother Randeep Singh is still a commander of the Hizbul Mujahideen, Doda Dist.
5. Bharat Kumar, arrested in Satwari, Jammu City, with arms and ammunition. Trained for four years in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
6. Lal Chand, crossed over to POK in 1997, returned to Doda in 2001 after receiving military training there, according to the police.
7. Police arrested a noted Hindu smuggler, involved in Jammu%u2019s Raghunath Temple attack in 2002,
8. On 9 Nov. 2004, Manoj Kumar Manhas, was one of the 47 militants who surrendered to the army. He revealed he was lured into militancy by Baldev Singh, absconding.
9. Uttam Singh, alias Saifulla, 23, a sector commander with Hizbul Kahmir,slain Aug.19 in an encounter in Jammu. Was in Pakistan five years, trained in arms.
10. Virendar Singh, 25, a Hizbul operative, supplied arms and funds to jihadi colleagues in India, captured in New Delhi.
11. Aug. 24, Hizbul militant Chattar Singh, carrying a pistol and grenades, was arrested in Doda.
12. Shakeel Wani, ex-Hizbul militant, now a fruit vendor in Srinagar, said at least 100 Hindu Kashmiri boys had fought against Muslim militants.
13. Attractive Hindu girls luring Hindu youths into terrorism. The issue of 27 Aug. 05 Jagran, a Hindi daily, runs this story. Nina, 15, is said to have played an important role in making many Hindu youths terrorists. She sent them across the border for training in arms. From the Chingas area of Rajouri, living with a relative, Joginder Singh, she came in contact with Shamsuddin, the district commander of Hizbul, This discomfited Joginder who sent her away to brother Balwan Singh, but she continued her work securing food and shelter for the terrorists in Gujjar homes. From her the police found out many things.
14. Ravi Kumar, Satwari area, arrested while on his way to the border for trainin
15. Security personnel estimate that the Hindu terrorists may be 500 strong.
Christians, too, target of Hindu fascism By Tahir Mahmoud
Indian prime minister Atal Behari Vajpayee's one day fast of penitence on January 30 is reflective of the widespread hyprocrisy in the ranks of the Indian ruling elite. The fast, coinciding with the fiftieth anniversary of Karamchand Gandhi's assassination, was meant to expiate for the horrible death of an Australian Christian missionary and his two young sons in Orissa on January 23.
Graham Staines, 58, and his sons, Philip, 10 and Timothy, 8, were burnt alive when Hindu fascists doused their jeep in which they were sleeping with kerosene and set it ablaze. When the three terrified occupants tried to break out of the vehicle, the Hindu mob pushed them back into the burning inferno.
Staines's 'crime' was that he had devoted 34 years of his life to serving lepers in India. A week prior to Christmas, Hindu terrorists had attacked and burnt churches in Gujarat's Dangs district but no one was killed there.
The ruling Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) whose allies perpetrated the Orissa horror, immediately pronounced the attack as 'an isolated incident.' How isolated was the attack? There have been 108 attacks against Christians in India over the past year. On February 3, a nun was gangraped in the same locality where Staines and his children were burnt alive and on February 6, a Christian boy and his sister were murdered.
The number of anti-Muslim attacks is more than three times higher. These are euphemistically dismissed as 'communal riots.'
Vajpayee's fast of penitence must be viewed against the backdrop of his statements. When he visited Dangs district on January 10, he called for a 'national debate to re-examine the freedom of religious conversations,' as reported by the Times of India on January 11, 1999. Vajpayee went further. He said 'religious conversion by Christian missionaries was at the root of all the trouble in the district,' (Hindu, January 11, 1999).
Many observers saw this as a green light to his Hindu terrorist allies to continue with their anti-Christian crusade which resulted in the tragic deaths of Staines and his two children. On January 29, some 3,000 Muslims and Christians, perhaps for the first time, took out a joint procession in Delhi denouncing the government's failure to curb attacks on minorities. Even as Christians were being targeted, Muslims were being killed by the Hindu terrorists as was witnessed in Surathkal, Karnataka (see Crescent International, January 16-31, 1999).
Vajpayee's assertion that 'religious conversion by Christian missionaries was at the root of all the trouble' was dismissed by Delhi's Archbishop Alan de Lastic. He said that had Christians being involved in conversions, there would be 350 million, not a merely 23 million Christians in India.
The role of Christian missionaries in India also needs a closer look. The best known missionary, of course, was Mother Teresa, who died in August 1997. She had devoted her entire life to looking after destitute children in the slums of Calcutta. In a letter to Dalit Voice (February 1-15, 1999), Ebe Sunder Raj of India Missions Association, gave some statistics pertaining to the work of Christian missionaries. He wrote: 'The 2.3 percent Christians in the Indian population cater to 20 percent of all primary education in India, 10 percent of all the literacy and community healthcare, 25 percent of all existing care of destitutes and orphans, 30 percent of all the handicapped, lepers and AIDS patients etc.'
These are very impressive figures. So why are the Hindu terrorists targeting the very people who are helping the most deprived of the Indian society? The answer is that the Hindu terrorists belong to the upper caste. The oppressed and downtrodden in India belong to the lower castes. The upper caste Hindus do not wish to see members of the lower castes getting educated otherwise they will begin to demand their fair share as well as question why they are being deprived of their basic rights.
According to the Indian constitution, discrimination on the basis of caste is forbidden. The reality is otherwise. Prejudice cannot be erased from people's minds simply by legislation. It requires the full force of the law to punish those who violate these rules. Since power has resided in the hands of the Brahmins - the tiny class of parasites sitting at the apex of the caste pyramid - they have made sure that the lower castes continue to suffer the indignity and humiliation they have endured for millennia.
Despite much talk about Indian secularism, freedom and equality, the upper castes do not marry from the lower castes, nor allow their daughters to be married by members of the lower caste. Caste
discrimination--religiously-sanctioned apartheid--is a permanent feature of life in India, and is widespread.
Not only is such discrimination tolerated in India, even the west remains silent about it. One can imagine the rucous that would have erupted had a Christian missionary being killed in Pakistan or some other Muslim country. The US has in fact passed a bill into law under which it will impose sanctions on any country where Christians are persecuted. There is little chance of this law being applied to India.
In fact, at the time when Christians in India were protesting against their persecution at the hands of Hindu terrorists, the US was busy huddling with Indian officials offering them partnership in trade, commerce and technology. Like the Christian Palestinians suffering at the hands of the zionist occupiers, the Christians of India, too, can forget about any help from the west. The west's concern about Christians is aroused only if it undermines Muslims.
RE:5 Questions
by mike on May 18, 2007 11:44 PM Permalink
Hello LOL at you...if muslims hav murdered you in millions..then you would not have born to hindu mother!!!!! but you too have been born as muslims... muslims doesnt hav such a bad taste to kill you..
RE:RE:20 lakh Hindus are in Gulf Countries ,living with pride
by mubeen khan on May 18, 2007 11:05 PM Permalink
If u have the guts meet me outside the mosque u fool.
RE:RE:RE:20 lakh Hindus are in Gulf Countries ,living with pride
by Kaushik Das on May 18, 2007 11:20 PM Permalink
why, what will you do if i meet you outside the mosque? kill me? i'm not surprised.
RE:RE:RE:RE:20 lakh Hindus are in Gulf Countries ,living with pride
by mubeen khan on May 18, 2007 11:27 PM Permalink
Kaushik it was not for for u .Yes if u try to kill me.If u try to hurt me when I am not harming u.Then Indian penal code permits me to kill u if u attack me.I will kill u t defend me.
I will hug u if u try to hug me.I will respect u,if u respect me.
RE:20 lakh Hindus are in Gulf Countries ,living with pride
by Bankey Bihari on May 18, 2007 11:25 PM Permalink
Hindu Terrorists The Hindu terrorists By I.K. Sukla ; September 26, 2005
Besides the Hindu terrorists from the well-established training camps in India under the saffronazis, other Hindu mercenaries too are active all over from Ayodhya to Kashmir. The infamous comment made by Lal Kishenchand Advani, the ex-Home Minister of the expired BJP-led NDA government, that Bajrangis being terrorists is a joke, only spurred the brutes of Bajrang Dal in their crime spree. Dara Singh, a Bajrangi, had successfully terrorized Orissa by burning alive Pastor Graham Staines and his two sons.
Advani%u2019s clean chit to the Dal in the wake of this heinous crime made him look more an ogre than a sentient human. George Fernandes, the then Defense Minister, had called it a foreign conspiracy, not a Hindutva crime. That Hindu terrorists have been the backbone of RSS-VHP-BJP-Bajrang Dal, the communal fascist combine, has been evidenced time and time again. Its so-called %u201Ctrishul-dikshas%u201D (knife distribution) are naked and subversive paramilitary training camps for its militias. Not only are the enlistees given their arms and training but also incantatory lessons in hate and violence against minorities, who, they are told, have to be bloodily extirpated, in order for the land exclusively to belong to Hindus.
This climate of sacred savagery spawned by the saffronazis has successfully spread the miasma of bigoted violence all over. The abundance of firearms freely made available to the HinduTaliban gangsters empowers the anti-socials and prods them to %u201Caction%u201D. This is an investment towards routine training in ethnic cleansing and eventually establishing Hindu Rashtra, envisaged by Savarkar and Golwalkar, the prime mentors of assassins, arsonists, thugs and rapists %u201Cserving the cause of Hindutva%u201D.
A glimpse of the climate of Hindu crimes rampant is in order. An article, titled Gujarat 2002 Visits Gohana [Haryana] by Shamsul Islam (Milli Gazette, 16-30 Sep. 05, p.8, New Delhi) lays out %u201CSimilarities with Gujarat 2002 Carnage%u201D:
%u2022 %u201CDalit houses and properties were burnt by releasing gas from cylinders. Big and well constructed houses were both looted and burnt whereas smaller houses were only looted. The arsonists carried away moveable properties in carts they had brought with them to transport their booty.
%u2022 Police and law and order machinery stood as mock spectators. %u2022 Only Dalit properties were targeted. If there happened to be a non-Dalit property, it was spared, which means the attackers had full knowledge of the identities of the home-owners. For instance, in Arya Nagar which has mixed population, only Dalit houses were blasted. Likewise, at Samta Chowk market (adjacent to Balmiki Basti), out of around 20 shops only a junk-dealer%u2019s shop owned by a Dalit was looted and completely burnt.
%u2022 A hate campaign against Dalits preceded the actual attack on Dalits. Dalit localities were declared to be hotbeds of criminals. The local administration did nothing to discourage or check this activity.
%u2022 These were not only Hindu Dalit houses which were burnt but also those owned and inhabited by Christian Dalits were similarly looted and burnt.%u201D
But the %u201Ccause%u201D gets served in many ways else too, unimagined by the manic mentors. Below are just a few examples.
1. Ramesh Pande. He was among the terrorists who stormed the Ayodhya temple on 5 July. The state government rewarded his family with a lakh of rupees ex- gratia. More compensation to family members is said to be under consideration.
2. Doctor S.K.Pandita, charged with sheltering militants in Kashmir, along with Pt. Dalip Kumar, arrested, for financing them. Pandita disclosed he carried messages and ammunition to the militants.
3. Sham Lal and Kirpal Singh, in Rajouri-Poonch, belong to Hizbul Mujahideen and Sanjay to Lashkar-e-Toiba, according to SP J.P.Singh.
4. In 2001, Kuldeep Singh, with seven others, killed in an encounter in Chatter Gali, Doda district. Elder brother Randeep Singh is still a commander of the Hizbul Mujahideen, Doda Dist.
5. Bharat Kumar, arrested in Satwari, Jammu City, with arms and ammunition. Trained for four years in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
6. Lal Chand, crossed over to POK in 1997, returned to Doda in 2001 after receiving military training there, according to the police.
7. Police arrested a noted Hindu smuggler, involved in Jammu%u2019s Raghunath Temple attack in 2002,
8. On 9 Nov. 2004, Manoj Kumar Manhas, was one of the 47 militants who surrendered to the army. He revealed he was lured into militancy by Baldev Singh, absconding.
9. Uttam Singh, alias Saifulla, 23, a sector commander with Hizbul Kahmir,slain Aug.19 in an encounter in Jammu. Was in Pakistan five years, trained in arms.
10. Virendar Singh, 25, a Hizbul operative, supplied arms and funds to jihadi colleagues in India, captured in New Delhi.
11. Aug. 24, Hizbul militant Chattar Singh, carrying a pistol and grenades, was arrested in Doda.
12. Shakeel Wani, ex-Hizbul militant, now a fruit vendor in Srinagar, said at least 100 Hindu Kashmiri boys had fought against Muslim militants.
13. Attractive Hindu girls luring Hindu youths into terrorism. The issue of 27 Aug. 05 Jagran, a Hindi daily, runs this story. Nina, 15, is said to have played an important role in making many Hindu youths terrorists. She sent them across the border for training in arms. From the Chingas area of Rajouri, living with a relative, Joginder Singh, she came in contact with Shamsuddin, the district commander of Hizbul, This discomfited Joginder who sent her away to brother Balwan Singh, but she continued her work securing food and shelter for the terrorists in Gujjar homes. From her the police found out many things.
14. Ravi Kumar, Satwari area, arrested while on his way to the border for trainin
15. Security personnel estimate that the Hindu terrorists may be 500 strong.
Christians, too, target of Hindu fascism By Tahir Mahmoud
Indian prime minister Atal Behari Vajpayee's one day fast of penitence on January 30 is reflective of the widespread hyprocrisy in the ranks of the Indian ruling elite. The fast, coinciding with the fiftieth anniversary of Karamchand Gandhi's assassination, was meant to expiate for the horrible death of an Australian Christian missionary and his two young sons in Orissa on January 23.
Graham Staines, 58, and his sons, Philip, 10 and Timothy, 8, were burnt alive when Hindu fascists doused their jeep in which they were sleeping with kerosene and set it ablaze. When the three terrified occupants tried to break out of the vehicle, the Hindu mob pushed them back into the burning inferno.
Staines's 'crime' was that he had devoted 34 years of his life to serving lepers in India. A week prior to Christmas, Hindu terrorists had attacked and burnt churches in Gujarat's Dangs district but no one was killed there.
The ruling Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) whose allies perpetrated the Orissa horror, immediately pronounced the attack as 'an isolated incident.' How isolated was the attack? There have been 108 attacks against Christians in India over the past year. On February 3, a nun was gangraped in the same locality where Staines and his children were burnt alive and on February 6, a Christian boy and his sister were murdered.
The number of anti-Muslim attacks is more than three times higher. These are euphemistically dismissed as 'communal riots.'
Vajpayee's fast of penitence must be viewed against the backdrop of his statements. When he visited Dangs district on January 10, he called for a 'national debate to re-examine the freedom of religious conversations,' as reported by the Times of India on January 11, 1999. Vajpayee went further. He said 'religious conversion by Christian missionaries was at the root of all the trouble in the district,' (Hindu, January 11, 1999).
Many observers saw this as a green light to his Hindu terrorist allies to continue with their anti-Christian crusade which resulted in the tragic deaths of Staines and his two children. On January 29, some 3,000 Muslims and Christians, perhaps for the first time, took out a joint procession in Delhi denouncing the government's failure to curb attacks on minorities. Even as Christians were being targeted, Muslims were being killed by the Hindu terrorists as was witnessed in Surathkal, Karnataka (see Crescent International, January 16-31, 1999).
Vajpayee's assertion that 'religious conversion by Christian missionaries was at the root of all the trouble' was dismissed by Delhi's Archbishop Alan de Lastic. He said that had Christians being involved in conversions, there would be 350 million, not a merely 23 million Christians in India.
The role of Christian missionaries in India also needs a closer look. The best known missionary, of course, was Mother Teresa, who died in August 1997. She had devoted her entire life to looking after destitute children in the slums of Calcutta. In a letter to Dalit Voice (February 1-15, 1999), Ebe Sunder Raj of India Missions Association, gave some statistics pertaining to the work of Christian missionaries. He wrote: 'The 2.3 percent Christians in the Indian population cater to 20 percent of all primary education in India, 10 percent of all the literacy and community healthcare, 25 percent of all existing care of destitutes and orphans, 30 percent of all the handicapped, lepers and AIDS patients etc.'
These are very impressive figures. So why are the Hindu terrorists targeting the very people who are helping the most deprived of the Indian society? The answer is that the Hindu terrorists belong to the upper caste. The oppressed and downtrodden in India belong to the lower castes. The upper caste Hindus do not wish to see members of the lower castes getting educated otherwise they will begin to demand their fair share as well as question why they are being deprived of their basic rights.
According to the Indian constitution, discrimination on the basis of caste is forbidden. The reality is otherwise. Prejudice cannot be erased from people's minds simply by legislation. It requires the full force of the law to punish those who violate these rules. Since power has resided in the hands of the Brahmins - the tiny class of parasites sitting at the apex of the caste pyramid - they have made sure that the lower castes continue to suffer the indignity and humiliation they have endured for millennia.
Despite much talk about Indian secularism, freedom and equality, the upper castes do not marry from the lower castes, nor allow their daughters to be married by members of the lower caste. Caste
discrimination--religiously-sanctioned apartheid--is a permanent feature of life in India, and is widespread.
Not only is such discrimination tolerated in India, even the west remains silent about it. One can imagine the rucous that would have erupted had a Christian missionary being killed in Pakistan or some other Muslim country. The US has in fact passed a bill into law under which it will impose sanctions on any country where Christians are persecuted. There is little chance of this law being applied to India.
In fact, at the time when Christians in India were protesting against their persecution at the hands of Hindu terrorists, the US was busy huddling with Indian officials offering them partnership in trade, commerce and technology. Like the Christian Palestinians suffering at the hands of the zionist occupiers, the Christians of India, too, can forget about any help from the west. The west's concern about Christians is aroused only if it undermines Muslims.
RE:RE:20 lakh Hindus are in Gulf Countries ,living with pride
by Serial Tourist on May 18, 2007 10:58 PM Permalink
RSS is not involved in the blast. Muslim terrorists funded by ISI are. This is a case of Muslims killing Muslims (happens in Pakistan all the time in Shia Sunni blasts).
Indian Muslims have anyway nothing to do with Arabs.
RE:RE:20 lakh Hindus are in Gulf Countries ,living with pride
by americaisgreat on May 18, 2007 11:15 PM Permalink
u surely look like a case of mentally retarded. After 9/11 there were 3500 cases booked all over US as hate crimes.
RE:20 lakh Hindus are in Gulf Countries ,living with pride
by mike on May 18, 2007 11:33 PM Permalink
saleem...you too anothre ignorent? we ruled you stupids for 100's of years..and still gave you peace and thaught you how to live like humans.!!! this is truth...
RE:RE:RE:20 lakh Hindus are in Gulf Countries ,living with pride
by mubeen khan on May 18, 2007 11:06 PM Permalink
Geeta says kill ur brothers.What u say on this dear.
Same way don't misinerpret,don't quote quran out of context.
RE:20 lakh Hindus are in Gulf Countries ,living with pride
by seek the truth on May 18, 2007 11:21 PM Permalink
geeta does not say kill your brothers first read bhagwad gita then comment otherwise all of india will laugh at you
RE:20 lakh Hindus are in Gulf Countries ,living with pride
by Serial Tourist on May 18, 2007 11:10 PM Permalink
How many Hindus have killed other people to convert them to Hinduism? You guys are killing people in the whole world.
Krishna said not be afraid of fighting with corrupt and evil people to uphold justice and law, even if they are your close relatives. What is wrong in that?
RE:RE:20 lakh Hindus are in Gulf Countries ,living with pride
by mubeen khan on May 18, 2007 11:25 PM Permalink
Read "Jihad" in the same context.
Quran says kill non-believers .Non-believers are those who do not follow path of peace .
It was said in the context of mecca people who were satan.They did atrocities to our prophet for long .He decided to leave mecca and even after that they continued their atrocities.
Then he called for Jihad.
Don't misinterpret islam and jihad.
This book was compiled 1400 years ago in Arab and has nothing to do with indian conditions or hindus.
RE:20 lakh Hindus are in Gulf Countries ,living with pride
by E mazhar on May 18, 2007 11:41 PM Permalink
krishna gave big advise dont be afried to kill your own brother in mahabharat. krishna keep 600 wives and sleep with hundreds of gopies
RE:RE:RE:RE:20 lakh Hindus are in Gulf Countries ,living with pride
by crazy Freeker on May 18, 2007 11:18 PM Permalink
when ur brother is doing wrong things to the public and is bad guy to protect the human race geeta says to do that. know abt something before you comment. geeta never say to make the world into terror place. never says to increase the population as u wish.
RE:RE:20 lakh Hindus are in Gulf Countries ,living with pride
by kashif shaikh on May 18, 2007 11:50 PM Permalink
hypocrite saleem,
I will not blame u for using name of saleem. what is there in a name? u can be mubin khan too, if u wish so.
quoting quran out of context is all that hypocrites of your cadre can do.
now regarding the verse in question, it is sufficient to say that context of above is to boost morale of believers going on war. its advice to muslims to warn them that war has ups and downs and wants them to show perseverence and fight till victory. and prohibits to look coward by crying for peace. what else a leader and patron of an army will say to its army in such context?that u start crying for peace at the first sign of gunfire???
either ur IQ is too low or U are dishonest enough to derive meaning of ur choice i.e muslims cry for peace when weak. this advice , on contrary says that fight for justice ,weather u are weak or strong. do not turn your back crying for peace.
if there is no war imposed on believers, they have to respect and ensure peace. thats all Islam says.
this verse is irrelevent here bcoz Indian muslim are not at war.
RE:20 lakh Hindus are in Gulf Countries ,living with pride
by mubeen khan on May 18, 2007 11:03 PM Permalink
try to get correct message.These arabs doesn't know muslim or hindu.They know "indians"
They will pose danger to all indians here whether hindu or muslims.
RE:RE:20 lakh Hindus are in Gulf Countries ,living with pride
by Kaushik Das on May 18, 2007 11:18 PM Permalink
your arabs like us more than your paki and bongi brothers. they trust us more. they suspect you more. go live there and see for yourself.
RE:RE:20 lakh Hindus are in Gulf Countries ,living with pride
by Serial Tourist on May 18, 2007 11:11 PM Permalink
I have lived in Middle East. There the Arabs ridicule Indian Muslims as "Hindu Muslims" and give them the worst place in Haj housing.
RE:20 lakh Hindus are in Gulf Countries ,living with pride
by Kaushik Das on May 18, 2007 11:15 PM Permalink
Look, this terrorist is openly threatening us in our own country. . And by the way, you muslims do not live together in peace. you live in a constant state of hatred.
RE:RE:20 lakh Hindus are in Gulf Countries ,living with pride
by mubeen khan on May 18, 2007 11:21 PM Permalink
Hum aah bhi bharte hein to ho jaate hein badnaam,
RE:20 lakh Hindus are in Gulf Countries ,living with pride
by sprsd on May 19, 2007 12:13 AM Permalink
It was KAFIRS who discovered the oil underground and taught the technology to take the oil out and made the Arabs rich to this level. Hope they may not throw out Kafirs so soon... Btw, blasts are a regular affair in the Islamic world nowadays: http://in.rediff.com/news/2007/may/15pak.htm
RE:JAI HINDUstan
by vladimir putin on May 18, 2007 10:56 PM Permalink
now the shoe is on the other foot... bloody terrorist bastards... this is probably some "work accident"... those terrorists musta' been preparing bombs & thankfully they exploded before they could kill any innocent & good HINDUstanis.... as u pay, so shall u reap....
RE:JAI HINDUstan
by RAFIQ MOMIN on May 18, 2007 10:59 PM Permalink
People like you are responsible for such activities. India is a Democratic country and if you dont believe that than get lost. We don't need people like you in our country. Why you people always have to bring religion in all such matters. If you can't do anything good for your country than please dont try to do anything bad. Hope God might give you some understanding.
RE:RE:JAI HINDUstan
by Kaushik Das on May 18, 2007 11:21 PM Permalink
if india is a democratic country, why don't you live as per the culture of 85% hindus?
RE:RE:JAI HINDUstan
by Manoj Tuli on May 18, 2007 11:10 PM Permalink
oh! pls tell me how many wars we have fought after independence and who started it? you will know "who" brings religion every where. Why dont you people just follow the law of the land and give up the demand for a 'personal law'? then we will all stop bringing religion in such cases. Dont "gyan" here.
