RE:Remarkable Opportunity for a Musalmaan - Follow the New Prophet Wafa Sutan (PBUH)
by prakash kumar on May 16, 2007 09:43 AM Permalink
Wow ! She has the guts call a spade a spade. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WLoasfOLpQ
RE:Remarkable Opportunity for a Musalmaan - Follow the New Prophet Wafa Sutan (PBUH)
by KA on May 16, 2007 10:04 AM Permalink
Wafa Sultan on Islam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WLoasfOLpQ&mode=related&search=
RE:real hinduism makes u do all this?
by Veyron on May 16, 2007 03:34 AM Permalink
msch .. It's rubbishhhhhhhh. You should not be referring to such websiotes which show a bad image of India. There are heaps of Good things happening in India as welll.
RE:RE:real hinduism makes u do all this?
by Veyron on May 16, 2007 03:37 AM Permalink
as you can see most of the people/places published appears to be uneducated & backward/old. This necessarily does not show India of today. Every country and cimmunity has its problems. India/Indians are trying hard to edcuate such people and bring them into main stream.
its really dishertaning to bury a loved one where your garbage is dumped. In a country like India where the living ones and too only humans even are not getting the facilities then what you can say they will do for the dead. Although we have our busy lives but only we ourselves have to take initiative in this direction to help improve the situation. no one else will do for your child except you yourself
There are many well written book which will tell us large scale persecution, destruction done by organized Xtianity in Europe between 4th to 12th Century/
RE:There are many well written books which will tell us large scale persecution, destruction done by organized Xtianity in Europe between 4th to 12th Century/
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on May 16, 2007 01:03 AM Permalink
I read one such book sometime back. Let me search Amazon, if I can find it.
RE:There are many well written books which will tell us large scale persecution, destruction done by organized Xtianity in Europe between 4th to 12th Century/
by KA on May 16, 2007 10:23 AM Permalink
Goa inquisitions http://us.rediff.com/news/2005/sep/14inter1.htm http://www.atributetohinduism.com/European_Imperialism.htm#The%20Goa%20Inquisition http://www.atributetohinduism.com/European_Imperialism.htm http://us.rediff.com/news/2005/sep/29drlp.htm?q=tp&file=.htm http://www.christianaggression.org/item_display.php?t ype=ARTICLES&id=1111142225
I feel appalled that there is so much of hatred that is being displayed by one Indian against another. We are all children of God and we should stop stooping to the level of accusing each other's religions etc..
When India is zooming ahead in the economic world, we should unitedly work towards taking our place in the sun, rather than just getting at each other's throats.
When we get closer to God, we will realise that we have to forgive even our worst enemies, since, as humans, we have no control of anything really. As children of God, we need to live in peace with one another rather than espouse hatred.
May better sense prevail. We have always been a tolerant nation and that is why we have survived years and years of lack of education etc. It would be foolish if we forget that and move away from that since tolerance and love are the basics of an enlightened society.
May God bless us all. Let us forgive and love one another.
RE:too much abuse in this forum
by Inadvertently Human on May 16, 2007 12:47 AM Permalink
I agree with you. But is there any Muslim or Christian who is willing to live peacefully side-by-side with a Hindu or Buddhist or Jain or a Sikh without prozelitizing or forcibly-converting them?
I really feel sry for muslims. I know countless muslim friends who can either be a fanatic religious person or an atheist because they understand their religion is too stupid to follow but their ego prevents them from adopting other faith.
If there is a muslim or a christian who would never ever interfere with my business and my religion, I am willing to live next to them. Otherwise, if war is what they want, war is what us Hindus should give them to protect out secularism.
RE:RE:too much abuse in this forum
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on May 16, 2007 12:52 AM Permalink
Xtian groups did more damage to world peace, culture than even muslim invaders.
Look at Europe, both Americas, Africa, australia. All traces of indigeneous culture, tolerance are wiped out.
RE:too much abuse in this forum
by Desh Pramukh on May 16, 2007 10:47 AM Permalink
Xians are only 2% in India against 12% muslims and 82% hindus. But they run the maximum no. of social welfare institutions - be it primary schools, primary health centres, homes for physically handicapped, downtrodden, destitutes, mentally ill patients - majority utilised by non-christians, esp. hindus. Pl think what muslims have done to you, except kill you. can you go and speak against islam in Kashmir. You can do that in goa / kerala / north east. But still i think you hate xtians, because basically of your weakness. we love you non-christians as jesus has taught us. and we do not consider you as khaffirs, good for slaughter only. God bless you.
RE:RE:RE:too much abuse in this forum
by newage Age on May 16, 2007 07:36 AM Permalink
Bhaskar Chattopadhyay, Hi
You write good stuff. Somethings you have written here is not known to many people. I am avering to organized Christianity and their designs. I was informed by a (ex)nun sometime back when I met her at NYC that Muslimes are far better than Xtians....Muslims are openly anti-Hindu and anti-India but Xtians are like white ants they will finish off India without anyone knowing about it....no doubt missionaries are successful in converting.....AP under the present Xtian CM Y Samuel R Reddy ahs taken upon himself to plant churches in all villages in AP to to aid cover/overt conversion activities....
RE:too much abuse in this forum
by Veyron on May 16, 2007 03:25 AM Permalink
I fully agree with you statement "These two organized religion has killed most people in the world in the name of religion. " but most of these killings have been done for political gains and not because of religion.
It is because of narrowminded followers and not because of religion. Religion does not tell you to go and slit somone's throat.
I don%u2019t understand what do you mean by idiotic monopoly. If any idiotic monopoly teaches you to be honest and good, I don%u2019t see any reason in not accepting it.
RE:too much abuse in this forum
by Srikanth on May 16, 2007 08:40 AM Permalink
God is one, ok. But which one? Hindus dont mind a multitude of gods. But semitic religions say their god alone is god. That is the problem.
RE:too much abuse in this forum
by Veyron on May 16, 2007 03:10 AM Permalink
Bhaskar , Its people who are doing so ? not the religion. Religion does not tell them to bloody have sex without being in a wedlock .
RE:too much abuse in this forum
by Anurag Shrivastava on May 16, 2007 01:04 AM Permalink
I am an athiest. However - only Hinduism is the only religion which does not restrict a person from believing in any god or gods including Jesus or Allah. Religions which have a montheistic philosphy tend to be absolutists by definition and will impose their beliefs and book on others. Kaffirs , Heathens - whatever. Christianity has been overtaken by secular principles in Europe ( not so in America though ) and hence seems very benign today... but give it a free riegn and you won't find much difference between Islam and Christianity. Notwithstanding the other cheek bit ..
RE:too much abuse in this forum
by Veyron on May 16, 2007 02:07 AM Permalink
Chatu..... I wonder if you know anything about your own religion before calling other religions LOWEST LEVEL OF TRUTH ?
Tell me , In which religion God tells you to cheat ? In which religion God tells you to kill your own people for the sake of a Kingdom ? Tell me in which religion God actually backstabbed someone ? Tell me the religion in which God is a rapist ? ... Tell me the religion which telll that few humans are so lowely that they cant be defined as humnas ? what elese ? Tell me the religion where windows are not allowed to marry ? Tell me the name of religion where womens have no rights ?
RE:RE:too much abuse in this forum
by Desh Pramukh on May 16, 2007 10:51 AM Permalink
does that mean thatif you believe that you are a human being, you are stupid? stupidity is not because of the truth in truth, it is because of the faith in untruth.
RE:too much abuse in this forum
by Veyron on May 16, 2007 03:01 AM Permalink
Bhaskar, You will not understand it. Let me explain you. If you know anything about these religions then you must know that these religions talk about same set of events and prophets before Moses. These religions stops you worshipping genitals, mountains, rivers, and all the living/dead or objects who you worship just because either you get benefited from the or scared of them. These all religions talk about just one GOD and not Gods. Moses/Jesus((PBUH) or Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) are the messengers of GOD and not the GOD themselves. You argument is void because there is ONLY one GOD and not set of Gods/GODs
Yeah I know truth hurts cause your ideology is based on fabrications and lies.
This Hindu-Muslim, Hindu-Christian issues will never cease to exist because of 2 reasons:
1. Evangelic christianity and Islam are inhrerntly intolerant towards other faiths. 2. Hindus was to live in peace by embrasing all faith which will never happen because of Islam and christianity.
Therefore, there is only one way out! To fight this out...I dont see any other logical conclusion. We need a civil war to end this nonsense once and for all and then build a soceity based on our Dharma.
RE:Solution
by armando on May 16, 2007 12:46 AM Permalink
Christianity is not intolerant towards other faiths. One of the most important of the ten commandments is "Love thy neighbour as thyself" Look at it deeply and remember that it does not say "Love thy Christian neighbour as thyself"
Christ taught forgiveness all His life and this is His basic teaching. He forgave people who nailed Him on the cross.
More recently, when Graham Staines was murdered in Orissa, his widow Mrs. Staines completely forgave the murderers of her husband and two young boys because that is the command of her saviour Jesus Christ.
So, why are you talking of civil war? Christians may be wrong in different ways including being unchristian but that does not mean that Christianity espouses that.
Let us not spew hatred at others. It is a time where we need to love each other.
RE:Solution
by Inadvertently Human on May 16, 2007 01:12 AM Permalink
Christinaty and Jesus Christ are mutually exclusive entities. Christianity is a politcal term invented to exert control across Europe during Roman times.
I agree that Christianity says "love thy neigbor" does it say "convert thy neighbor". So why do u convert people by fradulent means and why do u speonsore terrorism in Nagaland and Manipur?
RE:Solution
by kashif shaikh on May 16, 2007 02:59 AM Permalink
even muslims do not know this obscure book n author. why you are publicing it.? to give it credibility or fr commission???
by Cool Atheist on May 15, 2007 11:35 PM (1)who gave USA junkies the rights for doing all this? NONE,WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEFEND OUR DEMOCRACY,CAPITALISM AND OF OUR FRIENDS(ISRAEL,UK...).WE CAN'T AFFORD PEACE BUS SERVICE OR TRAIN SERVICE AFTER 9/11 LIKE YOU GUYS DO TO APPEASE TERRORISTS.IF THEY WANT WAR WE WILL GIVE THEM A WAR.
(2)And if you have more Oil then do dig there? THATS WHAT WE ARE GONE DO NOW,BUT DEFINEATLY WE DID NOT INVADE A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY LIKE IRAQ FOR OIL.WE DID IT,BECAUSE IT BETTER TO FIGHT THERE THAN IN OUR HOME.IT IS LIKE SAYING FOR INDIA TO FIGHT TERRORISM IN PAKISTAN THEN IN KASHMIR,DELHI,BANGALORE.......
(3)Great Great Lier. US eyeing Venezuela for Oil, Iran for Oil, Iraq for Oil? NO US DOES NOT EYING OIL IN ANY OTHER COUNTRY.IT IS LIKE SAYING "INFOSYS" DOES BUSINESS IN USA,THAT MEANS INDIA IS EYING COMPUTERS IN USA.SAME WAY "EXXON-MOBILE" ARE FREE TO FIND OIL ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.IT IS CALLED FREE MARKET CAPITALISM.THEY DO BUSINESS IN LOT PLACES AND THEY DON'T NEED OUR PERMISSION TO DO.
(4)THIS IS THE JOKE U PEOPLE ARE LISTENING AND TELLING DAY IN AND DAY OUT.
more omen in baghdad were wearing mini skirts before being 'liberated' by US. ???????
YOU GOT IT WRONG,THE TRUTH IS "MORE WOMEN ARE GOING TO SCHOOL IN AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ" AND IF THEY WANT TO WEAR SHORT SKIRTS IT IS LEFT THEM AND PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT.WE ALWAYS SUPPORT THE IDEA OF MEN AND WOMEN ARE EQUAL AND WE STICK BY IT.IF IT IS DIFFICULT FOR YOU SWALLOW,IT IS NOT OUR PROBLEM.
(5)WE ARE RACIST??? NO DEFINITELY NOT, WE CONTRIBUTED CLOSE TO 25 BILLION DOLLARS TO AFRICA ALONE PROVES THAT.ASK YOUR FAVORITE,SAUDI ARABIA TO DO THAT.
RE:RE:SETBACK FOR NEO-TALIBAN
by Cool Atheist on May 16, 2007 01:03 AM Permalink
(1)DEMOCRACY IS IN NOT WEAK,IT IS STRONG AND IT'S GIVES EQUALITY TO EVERYONE,WHETHER IT IS HE,SHE,ATHEIST,HINDU,MUSLIM,STRAIGHT,GAY,STRONG,OR HANDICAPPED PERSON.AND I THINK THATS NEEDS TO BE DEFENDED AT ANY COST.
BIN LADEN CREATES FRANCHISES OF TERRORISM.IT IS DIFFICULT TO PROVE DIRECT INVOLVEMENT NOT ONLY IN 9/11 BUT ALSO IN ANY OF THE FOLLOWING. CHECHNYA(RUSSIA) KASHMIR(INDIA) PHILIPPINES KENYA NAIROBI SAUDI ARABIA IRAQ LONDON SPAIN........
WHERE ARE THOSE WMDs?? HE USED AGAINST HIS OWN PEOPLE,HE USED IT AGAINST IRAN,HE HAD A NUCLEAR DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.COMBINING ALL THESE THREE WE CONCLUDED THAT HE HAD STOCKPILE OF WMD.IF WE DID IT WRONG IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO BRING STABILITY TO THAT REGION,EVEN THOUGH WE LOST 3000 SOLDIERS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THIS WAR.WE TRYING OUR BEST TO BRING STABILITY TO IRAQ.
GIVE THEM WAR' but DONT CALL IT RELIGION. USA NEVER DID TRY TO CONVERT ANYONE INTO CHRISTIANITY.THE MORE HINDUS,MUSLIMS,BUDHIST,JEWS....ENJOY THERE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM IN USA THAN IN ANY OTHER COUNTRY.
RE:RE:RE:SETBACK FOR NEO-TALIBAN
by vivekanand on May 16, 2007 01:40 AM Permalink
it seems that majority muslims have rejected this kutb. quite sensible act by them.
RE:RE:SETBACK FOR NEO-TALIBAN
by Anurag Shrivastava on May 16, 2007 01:08 AM Permalink
looks like your brother did not have his head blown off in the bombay train bombing ....don't talk like kid.
RE:RE:SETBACK FOR NEO-TALIBAN
by Anurag Shrivastava on May 16, 2007 12:45 AM Permalink
Swamiji - please stop using CAPS. It makes you seem like an idiot. And yes - democracy has to be protected with weapons - India has more than 1000 insurgencies and our brave jawans fight them and kill them every minute. When there was coup in Maldives - we flew our troops to rescue democracy there. Unfortunately - India is not a very prosperous or technologically advanced country that it can project its power beyond 1000 miles of our borders. US needs to do it and it will be looked upon to intervene whenever evil rises anywhere in the world. Whether you like it or not. If someone attacks us - we have every right to go to his house and destroy it. If they bomb a building , we bomb a city . They attack our city , we destroy their country. The war against Islamic terror will brutal , cruel and disproportionate. No quarter will be given. No quarter will be expected. Any doubts ??
RE:RE:SETBACK FOR NEO-TALIBAN
by Cool Atheist on May 16, 2007 03:38 AM Permalink
Mr.Vivekanada All your blabbering can be summarized into two words "DYING COMMUNIST"
Since you say "being Indian we know it very well that Soviets were not that bad."
YEAH 100 MILLION OF THEIR OWN PEOPLE ARE DEAD IN COMMUNIST REGIMES,WHICH IS NOT THAT BAD FOR A GUY LIKE YOU.ANYWAY I KNOW NOW WHAT YOUR ARE.THERE NO POINT IN ARGUING WITH GUY WHO ENJOYS DEMOCRATIC FREEDOM OF INDIA AND PRAISES EX-USSR.
RE:RE:SETBACK FOR NEO-TALIBAN
by Anurag Shrivastava on May 15, 2007 11:57 PM Permalink
Buddy - why do you waste your time countering these rabidly anti-american nuts who have only one grouse that US does not allow them to get inside easily ! And yes - on Iraq - admit it was a stupid mistake and move on . Some idiot made a typo so Iran got replaced by Iraq.
Mulah Dadullah is no more.Only if he had come to India, he would have been alive and kicking. There would have been thousands nay lakhs of people eager to hear him . Politicians, intellectuals, columnists, TV reporters and eminent historians would have flocked to hear his secular sermons. Why did he not come here? Who kows ....if he had come here he might even have been a honourable member of Parliament. Let us bow down our heads in respect to that great departed person who would have been an icon of all our secular folks.
