I think people just critise or comment here and do nothing on their own.Just lip service and NO action.Guys just improve these missiles or contribute to improve or to make better stuff instead of lip service here.When somebody does just critise , bad practice really.
I extend my best wishes & congratulations to all of them involved in the Project.
Lets forget what Pakistan, China, US or anybody else has, instead lets make something that is far superior. I am sure you guys must be working towards it.
Also let us pray & hope we never have to use them.
RE:Congratulations to all the scientist...
by Srinivas on May 09, 2007 03:06 PM Permalink
As a person associated with Indian defense system, i know most of these are duds. Even the army now wants to abandon these and go for Brahmos army version. Most of DRDO projects are years behind schedule and pl. dont praise the scientists too much as most of them are mediocre and the office type who are worse than Bengal clerks.
RE:Congratulations to all the scientist...
by Siva Kumar on May 09, 2007 06:55 PM Permalink
But sir with due respect your position in the Army, I think you are a little technicaally wrong abt the missiles.
Brahmos is a Cruise Misile and its for precision target.
Prithvi is not for a precision attack and to hit huge installations.
Both has its own strengths, and should be used according to ground situation.
RE:Congratulations to all the scientist...
by mbawmba on May 10, 2007 01:18 AM Permalink
You might be correct about the Bengal stuff ya know. I did my time with a couple of them.
This is a liquid fuelled missile which will take hours to load by then the war will be lost.Pakistan's Chinese M9 and M11 missiles( call it by which ever Islamic name you want) are solid fueled and can be launched at will .No other country uses liquid fueled missiles in war . Only satelite launch vehicles do so that too in the first stage only due to high specific thrust . The DRDO should stick to making coffee percolators and idli cookers( as envisaged by Krishna Menon )and get them blessed by some temple or the other in South India.Eat bondas and be happy but don't try to fool the Indian people .After 10 years Pritvi is still in the trail phase . Shivakasi could do better .
RE:Prithvi the liquid fuelled DRDO dud
by Sammy Sam on May 09, 2007 02:45 PM Permalink
Indian Missile technology is indeginious, while pakistan as everybody knows has stolen the technology and these are nothing but chinese missiles (remember Hawk Missiles, they even stole debris from Hawk Missile)at least we have developed our own technology (still I agree with your point that we ned better detterents)
RE:Prithvi the liquid fuelled DRDO dud
by SI on May 09, 2007 03:14 PM Permalink
you have a point.But you as well as I are also responsible for it. If you get an offer from DRDO and a private software company,you will patriotically choose the exciting job of errr...banking/networking/soap-making software,right? Well,I would...I did.
RE:Prithvi the liquid fuelled DRDO dud
by Mandar Desai on May 09, 2007 02:45 PM Permalink
May i know what is your authority to criticise indian scientists?
RE:Prithvi the liquid fuelled DRDO dud
by Srinivas on May 09, 2007 03:05 PM Permalink
As a person associated with Indian defense system, i know most of these are duds. Even the army now wants to abandon these and go for Brahmos army version. Most of DRDO projects are years behind schedule and pl. dont praise the scientists too much as most of them are mediocre and the office type who are worse than Bengal clerks.
RE:Prithvi the liquid fuelled DRDO dud
by Siva Kumar on May 09, 2007 07:03 PM Permalink
Hi Srini, I have already replied u in another post at the difference between Brahmos and Prithvi
Please be clear of what the configurations and the intended purposes of these misiles,
I am not saying that we have state of the are missiles.
In a war situation its the strategy that wins wars along with the right mix of weapon systems.
I part of the Integrated Defence staff and we are finalising on the doctrine where combined defence strategies are evolved with all the forces work together and not workr like the one in Kargil times.
Obviously this needs to be tested and to test god fobid we have to go inot another war. Hope we dont need to test the doctrine in real conditions,
RE:RE:Prithvi the liquid fuelled DRDO dud
by Siva Kumar on May 09, 2007 07:21 PM Permalink
Can u check the Agni Misile system, particularly the third version which is a ICBM
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MISSILES/Agni.html
Each weapon system has its own utilisation and please do not mess up with just what u read hear and there on the Internet. If you are a Defence Analyst then u may understand the significance. There is a specific Degree program where you can understand these things...! Its a good career oppurtunity as well.
Guys can contact.... Dr. L. Baktha Lawrance Godwin Department of Defence & Strategic Studies Voorhees College, Vellore - 632 001
The Commandant / Representative Defence Service Staff College Wellington Nilgiris - 643 231
Thiru S.V. Raghavan S.G. Lecturer & Head Department of Defence & Strategic Studies Gurunanak College Chennai - 600 042
Dr. R.N. Swaroop Professor & Head Department of Defence & Strategic Studies University of Madras Chennai - 600 005
Dr. V.K. Padmanabhan Professor Dept. of South and South East Asian Studies University of Madras Chennai - 600 005
The Commandant / Representative National Defence College New Delhi
RE:missile test
by Siva Kumar on May 09, 2007 07:15 PM Permalink
Can u check out about Agni III Misile system hich is a solid propalant three stage ICBM....
RE:missile test
by Sammy Sam on May 09, 2007 02:33 PM Permalink
Absolutely right Mr. Singh. I recently visited China, trust friend they are far far developed than India. Developmentis such 20 yrs old buliding is demolished to create hirise, the road repairs which can take 6 months have been completed in 6 days, city planning is great and most important the people have srtong sense of solidarity. It really makes me sad when I see countries abroad (and its not that we dont have potential) its only political will is missing.
RE:[object]
by Sammy Sam on May 09, 2007 02:35 PM Permalink
Absolutely right Mr. Singh. I recently visited China, trust my friend they are far, far developed than India. Development is such that 20 yrs old buliding is demolished to create hirise, the road repairs which can take 6 months in India have been completed in 6 days, city planning is great and most important the people have srtong sense of solidarity. It really makes me sad when I see countries abroad (and its not that we dont have potential) its only political will is missing
RE:missile test
by SI on May 09, 2007 03:10 PM Permalink
Sam,if you are in a dictatorship/communist rule,you can ignore people's will for 'development'.You have only seen the shiny side of Shanghai,not the millions who had been evacuated from there.But in a democracy as ours,we can't.Chinese model dvelopment maybe better suited for Pakistan,not India.
RE:RE:missile test
by mbawmba on May 10, 2007 01:20 AM Permalink
Well whaddya think our long range missiles are for? Once chinese get all their infrastructure and thingies in place , we blow it all up..Heheheh
Now it is time to try to advanced weapons like Bunker busters , Elecrtomagnetic bombs which reduces Civilian casuality and strike at the heart of the enemy. Using conventional load can become dangerous in terms of civilan casualities .As the new wars are fought on streets not in war fields
RE:Is it successful?
by sumeet rana on May 09, 2007 01:16 PM Permalink
ofcourse it is. prithvi has been successfully tested before n is already in use in army. this was like a random check. they just picked one from one of the base and test fired it againg
