I call all North Indians and Pro north Indians. It is really a wonderful day. We got news about TN. It's been a bad year for us with lot of news about us( Psycho killing, extortion, human trafficking, fake encounter, bloody politics, sex scandals, and of course running over people sleeping on the road). Here is our chance
We don't care about what TN is. We don't care about the heritage, culture, language and the people of TN. As a matter of fact we don't know anything about it. But
we drive the cars they build (Ford, Renault, Nissan, Caterpillar, Hyundai, Komatsu, BMW and Mitsubishi) we like the job opportunities in TN. We carry the cellphones and the electronics built in TN (Companies like Nokia, Flextronics, Motorola, Sony-Ericsson, Foxconn, Samsung, Cisco and Dell have chosen Chennai as their South Asian manufacturing hub.) More south indians live abroad and we like our economy booming coz of their actions Tamilnadu has 350 engineering colleges and 1150 arts college, 2550 schools. The state's literacy rate increased from 62.66% in 1991 to 73.47% in 2001.[4] which is well above the nation average. (as per wikipedia). Thats a lot but still they are uneducated because we say it. Tamil Nadu is one of the most industrialised states in India.
Well this is just an intro of what TN is they are much more than this but who cares man we just want to put them down and give them some advice so that they can mature a little bit and build a proper state (yes yes I know we are nothing when compared to them).
Punk heads first understand whom you are talking about. It is time you hit wikipedia and learn about us. I know you are lazy so here is the link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_Nadu
Justice will definitely be served for the dead and my heart felt condolences to their families.
I am really surprised and am not able to see how we tamilians could have affected your life or you%u2019re so called dignity. I am an NRI and in my place we definitely represent an elite group of Indians. Being so mature and educated, as you claim I hope you would have realized that this is dirty politics and not something that you haven't experienced.
Hatred is getting you and at the end you will be left only with that. Try to be an Indian.
RE:It is time to say
by Eternal Dharma on May 09, 2007 09:28 PM Permalink
It doesnt matter whether Tamil Nadu is doing well financially or industrially. Arresting Shankaracharya, silently evicting Tamil Brahmins, encouraging proselitization, pro-minority stanze, reservations for fundamentalist Christians and Muslims are the actual accomphishments of your dear state. Ford, Hyundai and Nokia are here now and will be gone tomorrow. Culture, tradition and roots are permanant. Under all the accomplishments you mentioned there is deception, lies, debauchery, discirmination, violence and casteism.
Dont blame the Brahmins and please dont ask the Brahmins to get out! Always remember the contributions of Brahmins to Hinduism and our civilizations. Starting from Great Rishis like Naradh, Veda Vyasar, Vasishtar, Lord Chaitanya are all Brahmins. What would be our society without Brahmins? Dont hold on to the disproven Aryan-immigration theory and tell Brahmins to go back!! Brahmins are from India. Even in Baghavad Gita, Lord Krishna says "Anarya Justam Ashvargyam Akirti Karam Arjuna" - meaning: dont act unAryan. Kurukshetra happened in Indian 5000 years ago. We now have evidense in the form of lost city of Mathura. So stop with the Brahmin bashing. If you take our Brahmins and Kshatriyas - the two pillars of our Sanathan Dharma, who else will hold the ceiling of our Dharma. Ofcourse if you a non-believer or a psuedo-secularist, you wouldnt even bother to read this meaningful comment.
I am from Tamil Nadu and I am ashamed and disgusted from the fact that I spent 20 years of the most hateful and dispicable people there. I would live in Hindu North Indian anytime anytime because they are more dedicated to Hinduism. I dont care about Tamil or Tamil Nadu...I care about India, Sanathana Dharma and Samskrtham.
Ekam Sat Viprah Bahudha Vadanti Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam (translated to Truth is One, Sages Call it by Many Names. The Whole Universe is one Family).
RE:It is time to say
by karthikeyan murugesan on May 09, 2007 11:27 PM Permalink
this is what one could say the tragi-comic turn of events-when such message boards give vent to immature,idiotic,half-baked,partisan and imbecile arguemnts like this -is tamilnadu or gujarat or kerala or maharashtra worse?-both,no doubt-the whole of india-when two innocent lives have ended tragically,silly and stupid guys are fighting about insensitive and illiterate comparisons?
then for your information, periyar is the champion of the backward classes and scheduled castes,who inspired a death blow to brahminical tyranny-driving the poonool clad out of tamil power echelons and now the intelligentsia,doctors,media,cinema,literature,bussiness,police,administration and judiciary of tamilnadu-the only state which can boast of BC and SC emancipation-in fact,the dominating creed-driving the brahmin usurpers using caste and pseudo-hindu fabrications to the fringes of the tamil society-hence,periyar is the che guevera of tamilnadu. then,the sethusamudram project which would bring billions into tamilnadu economy-especially the tuticorin-rameswaram-chennai zone,which until now has been going into srilankan pseudo-buddhist tyrannical govt-which has raped thousands of tamil women,destroyed,maimed and orphaned millions of tamil children,for whom LTTE is the only hope-then,the so called ramar's bridge is as allalong scienctific evidence has proved a natural structure and not a man made one-usual indian liability of clinging to myths and pseudo-scientific misconceptions so,let us be more literate,rational,humane and scientific about information-let us pray for the welfare of deceased 's families and not fight among ourselves and fall for brahminical propanganda
RE:RE:It is time to say
by May Day on May 09, 2007 09:35 PM Permalink
In spite of living for 20 years in Tamil Nadu you dont understand the Tamil Culture. You either have been residing in an ivory tower or spent your time reading Bagavad Gita without stepping out in the street. Culture in this country is not about hinduism and bhraminism as you think it is much more profound. Sorry that you missed that one. Tamil culture per se has never adheared to hiduism. Religion was just a part of Tamil culture and not vice versa. For you your religion is culture but for Tamil people it is just a way of life. Thats why we have more CM's of different ethinic origin than any other state. We dont take religion on it's face value we delve deeper than just religion.
RE:It is time to say
by Eternal Dharma on May 09, 2007 09:43 PM Permalink
So what exactly is your Tamil culture? Beating up meek Brahmins? Violence in the form of caste by Thevars and Nadars? Monopoly by DMK gundas? Hindu bashing by Christian actors like Vivek, Vijay? Voice for Dravidian supremacy? Making bus conductors super-stars? Making MGR a God? Immortalizing egomaniacal worthless pieces of crap like periyar? Fighting with neighbors over water? Is this your tamil culture?
RE:It is time to say
by May Day on May 09, 2007 11:04 PM Permalink
You are portrying Tamils as Nazis and Brahmins as Jews. You suck man. Ask any Tamil Brahmin if he is feeling the same way and you wil get a slap. Jayalalita (A very very devout Hindu and a Brahmin) who visits temples at the drop of a hat is the one who jailed the Snkaracharya and not the general Tamilian. Jayalaitha had some issues with money with the Sankaracharya and got even by arresting him. It was only after teh DMK govt came to power that he got some respite. So you first get yor facts right and talk about tamils later. Jayalitha, Karunanidhi and the Sankaracharya are the birds of the same feather. Nobody is supporting them here but when you say that it was coz of the tamils that the sankaracharya is in jail is like telling the Brahmin dominated indian cricket team that India did not win the world cup coz of the tamils.
RE:It is time to say
by Karthik on May 10, 2007 12:12 AM Permalink
Eternal Dharma...Why does Brahminism comes in to picture here..please stick to the topic..I am also a brahmin..What does this thing has to do here dude..!!! Can u clarify please...All politicians are like this..dont categorize North , South, West and East politicians...every politician is a THIEF!!!
RE:It is time to say
by May Day on May 09, 2007 09:23 PM Permalink
Well said.....some north indians(Not all) think that jst coz they are a little fair skinned they can talk all the rubbish in the world. These type of people are the most racist on the face of earth. they dont realize that in spite of having a fair skin they are "Just another Indian" in the west.
I am not sure how you got to know Tamilian's classification of India.
India is a holy land, a democratic country. I am proud of the fact that we are united though we have millions of differences in the name of religion, caste, language and culture. If we have to stand united it is the responsibility of each and every individual to respect others and their culture.
You a blaming a community for expressing themselves as what they are. As long as they don't bother anyone else they have the right to think they are from Tamilnadu and be proud of the heritage and culture their state represents.
May be I need to rephrase my call to north Indians. It should have been "Rest of Indians%u201D (As per your understanding of Tamilian classification). My comment goes to everyone who has a grudge against TN and Tamilians. We know what we are and we are definitely proud of that. I do realize our politics stinks and hey guess what it is like that in the %u201CRest of India%u201D too.
BTW, I wouldn%u2019t want to call anyone acting against India as Indians and so there is no classification when it comes to Indians and that is what we are trying to achieve.
RE:It is time to say
by Pradeep Thomas on May 09, 2007 11:07 PM Permalink
The Northies hate tamilians because.. it is Tamilnadu.. the Aaryans couldnt infulence much.. as it has the highest degree of Dravidians.. North being doimated by Aaryans.. they naturally hate it and talk all bullshit about Tamilnadu..
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by Karthik on May 10, 2007 12:15 AM Permalink
BostonPunekar
Grow up, stop posting same post again n again!! Keep your mouth shut and watch wat others are discussing abt.. This is a very serious concern in the Press World..Right to PUBLISH has been violated...think abt it..dont talk abt North south and all those craps...
Kerala prides itself as being called Gods own Country but what about Tamilnadu ?
1>It is ruled by an Individual who hates Gods, Hindus and Hindusism.
2>It discourages anyone of faith and belief , and tries to destroy ancient creations like the Rama Setu as its linked with Lord Rama, Hindusism and God believers.
3>It encourages forced migration of Tamil Brahmins, discriminates against them and forces them out of the State of Tamilnadu.
4>Calls itself land of Great Periyar..which is enough encouragement for Gods to know weather are they welcome in this Land or not.
5>When God leaves a land it is naturally gets inhabitated by individuals who hate Gods, all know which type of species hate Gods...!!!
6> Having narated this great balad, read the news about the burning of the newspaper office and the sad death of 2 personal inside it, just shows its respect for freedom of expression and respect to knowledge.
7> Yet expects someone to say Tamilnadu is great and Mardas is great..!!!
RE:If Kerala is Gods own Country what is Tamilnadu?
by Eternal Dharma on May 09, 2007 09:47 PM Permalink
RE:It is time to say by Eternal Dharma on May 09, 2007 09:28 PM It doesnt matter whether Tamil Nadu is doing well financially or industrially. Arresting Shankaracharya, silently evicting Tamil Brahmins, encouraging proselitization, pro-minority stanze, reservations for fundamentalist Christians and Muslims are the actual accomphishments of your dear state. Ford, Hyundai and Nokia are here now and will be gone tomorrow. Culture, tradition and roots are permanant. Under all the accomplishments you mentioned there is deception, lies, debauchery, discirmination, violence and casteism.
Dont blame the Brahmins and please dont ask the Brahmins to get out! Always remember the contributions of Brahmins to Hinduism and our civilizations. Starting from Great Rishis like Naradh, Veda Vyasar, Vasishtar, Lord Chaitanya are all Brahmins. What would be our society without Brahmins? Dont hold on to the disproven Aryan-immigration theory and tell Brahmins to go back!! Brahmins are from India. Even in Baghavad Gita, Lord Krishna says "Anarya Justam Ashvargyam Akirti Karam Arjuna" - meaning: dont act unAryan. Kurukshetra happened in Indian 5000 years ago. We now have evidense in the form of lost city of Mathura. So stop with the Brahmin bashing. If you take our Brahmins and Kshatriyas - the two pillars of our Sanathan Dharma, who else will hold the ceiling of our Dharma. Ofcourse if you a non-believer or a psuedo-secularist, you wouldnt even bother to read this meaningful comment.
I am from Tamil Nadu and I am ashamed and disgusted from the fact that I spent 20 years of the most hateful and dispicable people there. I would live in Hindu North Indian anytime anytime because they are more dedicated to Hinduism. I dont care about Tamil or Tamil Nadu...I care about India, Sanathana Dharma and Samskrtham.
Ekam Sat Viprah Bahudha Vadanti Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam (translated to Truth is One, Sages Call it by Many Names. The Whole Universe is one Family).
RE:If Kerala is Gods own Country what is Tamilnadu?
by kumar on May 09, 2007 09:56 PM Permalink
I guess lot of people regret even being born as an Indian and being raised in a prejuidiced society which will complain if someone is either doign well or not doing well.
Strange that more than people living in india Why do people living outside india/completely different genetic pool have such a love for India.
RE:If Kerala is Gods own Country what is Tamilnadu?
by Deva Pratap Saathivayal on May 09, 2007 09:08 PM Permalink
"Yet expects someone to say Tamilnadu is great and Mardas is great..!!! "
Yes it is... You can not value a state with its political leader and parties alone. If do so, all states in India will be a mere filth.
All your seven points revolve only about spiritualism and my answer to you, A survery on temple goes in India found that people in Tamil Nadu visit temple more than anyone in other part of India. Spiritualism still survives here dude. If you are from TN, you wouldn't have written this coz they know that Hinduism is a day to day life in TN, which is quite unusual to few other states.
RE:RE:If Kerala is Gods own Country what is Tamilnadu?
by Deva Pratap Saathivayal on May 09, 2007 09:15 PM Permalink
"If Kerala is Gods own Country what is Tamilnadu?"
The subject is "invalid". Kerala is called as Gods own country because of its natural bounty and not becasue of spriritualism or Hinduism. Hindus form only 50% of Kerala.
RE:If Kerala is Gods own Country what is Tamilnadu?
by May Day on May 09, 2007 09:21 PM Permalink
We know that you Moron....it was just for making a funny statement. You can now read that as "In spite of having natural beauty in Kerala" (Or living in God's country) why are they so far far behind Tamilnadu industrially?
RE:If Kerala is Gods own Country what is Tamilnadu?
by May Day on May 09, 2007 09:14 PM Permalink
Nobody said that TamilNadu was great. At least industrially and education and health wise it is much much better off than Kerala inspite of being God's own country.
RE:If Kerala is Gods own Country what is Tamilnadu?
by Deva Pratap Saathivayal on May 09, 2007 09:11 PM Permalink
"3>It encourages forced migration of Tamil Brahmins, discriminates against them and forces them out of the State of Tamilnadu. "
Apart from Quota, I don't see anywhere Brahmins are discriminated. Agama vidhis are still prevalent and followed only in TN & Kerala. And most OBCs support that. Anyway the quota thought it did some bad initially to Brahmins, now it has no effect at all, since the number of educational seats are increated tremendously. Brahmins move out of TN coz of better jobs outside and not because of social problem in TN.
RE:If Kerala is Gods own Country what is Tamilnadu?
by kumar on May 09, 2007 09:14 PM Permalink
what will happen after the big leader? Chaos and violence? I feel for the commoners in that state.
RE:If Kerala is Gods own Country what is Tamilnadu?
by The Lion on May 10, 2007 10:58 AM Permalink
BostonPunekar, what a corrupt mind is yours?????
People of bramhins, skthariyasvaisiyals and other castes are doing fine in TN. Visit and see from your eyes (...till dont want to refuse that few pockets have mild discrimination reports and this is only few)
It was after after independence, that all other caste ppl very decently started taking place in all fields were only brahmins were sitting. Ok!
Being just 7-10% in the population noone in name of caste/creed can occupy 80-90% of the positions. Be little fair! Very few fields are still left with such shittiness and one such is the TN Cricket board were 8 out of 10 selectors and players are always of one caste.
Even if ppl of other castes do the same it will be irritating. yes it will. we are just humankinds, after all. lets treat everyone same and live in peace.
"claiming to be supporters of Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam leader M K Azhagiri" in writing this newspiece the author uses the word "claiming" whenever some hindu outfit is involved the media has no doubt at all, they will never use words like "claiming" the piece will be written in such a way that you will feel like LK Advani himself had gone to ransack some newspaper office :-)
This is not a new thing for Madurai. In the recent past, a senior DMK leader of was killed in the roadside. At that time, Karunanidhi said similar things happened in DMK in late 60's. They never bother about people.
I'm surprised to see evry1 blaming entire tamilians for a foolish act by some morons. Why blame tamilians and ask to leave to Lanka?? Whole of India we have fools like this? Lets say I generalize all the foll state people are this? Assam - What about ULFA killing 75 biharis recently calling them outsiders??? Bihar- Naxals, Kidnapping for ransom Punjab - Human racketting using MPs like Babu Lal Katara Kashmir - fighting to join hands with Pakistan and blasting everywhere Karnataka - what about all those killed after actor Rajkumars death in Bangalore Kerala - What aboot the 30 infant death in a Govt hospital due to lack of hygiene Maharashtra - what about dalits being paraded naked.. what of all the drama of Bal Thackeray, Raj and Uday???
Every state has problems and behind every problems there are politicians. We have fools like Hardstone asking Tamils to leave to SriLanka ??? Dont compare North and South talk like an Intelligent concerned Indian rather than a moron
RE:No one is better
by May Day on May 09, 2007 08:01 PM Permalink
You are right....when you have Rahul Gandhi's, Rabri Devis, Chautalas, Kumaraswamys and many many examples like those people just jump to a conclusion that these things hapen only in Tamilnadu.Agreed that this has to stop but that can only happen if people are educated. Bloggers like us who use rediff to express our thoughts can oly go so far. It is the common man who votes and elects the leaders to power. So guy's like Hardstone is another common person who happens to use a PC.
RE:No one is better
by kumar on May 09, 2007 09:06 PM Permalink
why srilanka? I heard tamils also live in mauritius, SOuth Africa, Malaysia, Singapore, Fiji and Carribean. This is when british dispatched indians to far off places.
You morons life is too short and you live only once; you hold caste, creed, language, color etc., with two hands firmly.And this is why various ugly incidents happen all over de world.
RE:No one is better
by BostonPunekar on May 09, 2007 08:37 PM Permalink
Read some national newspapers other than Tamil otherwise you will be a laughing stock again at some other forumn.
Whatever you mentioned just to save ur Karunanidhi Gang is so out of acuracy and facts that make ur post a laughing stock by anyone who reads his states reference.
Abt Maharashtra what u said...
where did u read this ficticious story dude?
Atleast get the names of politicians and leaders right.
Thirdly Vilasrao Deshmukh and Congress as well as Sharad Pawars NCP in alliance rule Maharashtra. The Thakre clan is nowhere in power in Center or state.
Raj Thakre is not in Shiv sena.
Hope this is my contribution to improve the acuracies when u put with regards to defending the great nationalistic activities of Tamils in Tamilnadu come to news again.
My Advice, do read for a change some national newspapers.
