These communist are simply politically impotent they lack courage. They dont believe in indian culture, indian history, indian philosophy. So that people of india will come in the dominance of communism ( outside philosophy)these communist have destorted our great golden indian history & written many many indian freedom fighters, jat & sikh guru as extremist.
RE:history
by varun kumar on May 07, 2007 10:17 AM Permalink
Communism is the answer to Brahminism Mr. Sharma. The days of Brahmin supremacy are coming to an end with the naxalite movement getting popular every day in every state of India.
RE:Correct the history
by on May 07, 2007 10:29 AM Permalink
Idiot. I studied in St. Xaviers which like most Jesuit Schools uses CBSE text books that clearly refer to it as First war of Independence. Rajput, the BJP appointee published provable lies in his tenure.Now I am no suporter of Evangelists who seek to convert the illiterate and dispossed - convince me a Brahmin with two college degrees to convert first - but I admire the foregin Jesuit padres for their dedication
RE:Correct the history
by Lucky B on May 07, 2007 06:39 PM Permalink
You said "Idiot." That shows your convent educated behavior. Thanks for proving my point sir.
Pick a middle school history book from any M.P. convents and educate yourself.
RE:Actually people write history, remember that. History is NOT WRITTEN IN JNU!
by Mukesh Sharma on May 07, 2007 10:14 AM Permalink
These communist are simply politically impotent they lack courage. They dont believe in indian culture, indian history, indian philosophy. So that people of india will come in the dominance of communism ( outside philosophy)these communist have destorted our great golden indian history & written many many indian freedom fighters, jat & sikh guru as extremist.
RE:Actually people write history, remember that. History is NOT WRITTEN IN JNU!
by varun kumar on May 07, 2007 10:15 AM Permalink
Communism is the answer to Brahminism Mr. Sharma. The days of Brahmin supremacy are coming to an end with the naxalite movement getting popular every day in every state of India.
RE:Actually people write history, remember that. History is NOT WRITTEN IN JNU!
by Mukesh Sharma on May 07, 2007 10:24 AM Permalink
Mr varun, Kaum ko kabilon me mat banto Safar ko meelon me mat banto behta hua daria hai mera bharat ise nahron aur nalon me mat banto
RE:Actually people write history, remember that. History is NOT WRITTEN IN JNU!
by varun kumar on May 07, 2007 10:12 AM Permalink
Well Bhaskar, In the olden days only brahmins knew how to write what to write. And they have brot great shame to India by their writings. Dont let that happen again.
RE:Actually people write history, remember that. History is NOT WRITTEN IN JNU!
by on May 07, 2007 10:32 AM Permalink
Who are the fuddooos? You combat narrow-minded marxist historians with well-researched academic truth, ( for example, they cant accept that India can also be defined as a Sanatan conciousness )not Al Qadea like Hindu-right fiction of NCERT Rajput, meant for low-intelligence and gullible upper-caste and middle-caste idiots.
Was not the war against the invading moguls or Greek the war for independence of India..why only the colonial powers considered the war for independence? India has more history than Britishers and Gandhis. Please do not disrespect them by call this first war for independence
RE:Colonial Mindset
by pradeep sundaram on May 07, 2007 09:59 AM Permalink
That is because Chauhan was fighting invaders and not the conquerers. While fighting the British, we had already been conquered by them and were fighting to be freed of their rule.
RE:RE:Colonial Mindset
by krankkee on May 07, 2007 10:44 AM Permalink
The war of independence the way i see is the war to protect the independence against the invaders or conquerors..do not have to wait untll you are conquered
RE:RE:Colonial Mindset
by on May 07, 2007 10:59 AM Permalink
Pradeep rao What about the Mohd bin Tughlaq's succesful defence of India from Mongols, with hordes of Hindu soildery and also consider his blood - Dadi was a Jat Punjaban of Uch I would call it a natoional defence too
Mani Shankar should learn to respect all freedom fighters . Gandhiji contribution is great but others have also given their life,blood & sweat for their country like lokmanya tilak,lala lajpat ray,bipin chandra,khudi ram bose,raj guru, bhagat singh,chandrashekhar azad & savarkar ......no body in congress mention their contibution except gandhi,nehru,indira,sonia
This mani shankar has one insulted the veer Savarkar. His contribution is zero because he is praised by BJP even rahul & prinka r more patriotic than this bold freedom fighter ?
RE:every freedom fighter is respectable
by Minu Mukherjee on May 07, 2007 09:51 AM Permalink
Only idiots, or ignorants can refuse contribution of Savarkar on Indian nationalism and freedom struggle.
Its votebank politics which is trying to demean Savarkar. But its a temporary phase. COmmies abused Gandhi, Tagore, Subhas bose - everybody. And had to change their position over time.
RE:every freedom fighter is respectable
by bajrangi on May 07, 2007 09:54 AM Permalink
According to Many (Mani), Rehan and Sarah are more patriotic than Lal-Bal-Pal or Ajad, BhagatSingh, Tatya, Kunwar Singh and many other unnameds. ArjunSingh is now-a-days working on this project to make these 2 kids as the kids who changed india's fate.
well indians are a gullible lot,whtever is fed to us we accept it without thinking.1857 mutiny was the first war of independence- i can only laugh at it..research abt it and u'll all know the truth behind the uprising..media and the politicians will surely project it but it is us who at the end have to find out the truth.
RE:sham rising
by on May 07, 2007 11:06 AM Permalink
Perfectly right, it was the last struggle of North India's dispoessed feudals against the British, which became a working-class Jehad aginst Christians, and was suppressed by the Brits with - hold ur breath - Pathans, Punjabi Musalmaans, Sikhs, Baloches and Gurkha mercenary troops. South, Mahrashtra and Bengal were not interested
RE:RE:Is Gandhi the ONLT emblem of National freedom Struggle?
by mohak chaudhary on May 07, 2007 09:41 AM Permalink
i fully support minu's statements..
RE:Is Gandhi the ONLT emblem of National freedom Struggle?
by varun kumar on May 07, 2007 09:38 AM Permalink
Hi Bhaskar,
Everyone knows Gandhi in the international community. Because Gandhi was killed by a religious fanatic, it becomes even more important to project Gandhi because it shows to the world that we reject all kinds of fanatics and facists.
RE:Is Gandhi the ONLT emblem of National freedom Struggle?
by bajrangi on May 07, 2007 09:44 AM Permalink
I think Lalu is more international now a days then gandhi. Hence he should have been projected instead of gandhi.
RE:Is Gandhi the ONLT emblem of National freedom Struggle?
by Minu Mukherjee on May 07, 2007 09:44 AM Permalink
As per Ashis Nandy, noted Post-colonial polemicist, Gandhi was killed by Godse not for religious reasons, but for seclar casue. Everybody was upset that Gandhi was asking Govt of India to pay some huge money to Govt of Pakistan which didn't make any sense in those tumultous days of partition.
Godse was LESS religious than Gandhi.
PS: Nehru/Patel didn't pay the promised sum top Pakistan by the way.
Gandhi never used "secularism", but Mani Aiyar is a self-proclaimed "secular fundamentalist".
Gandhi opined ban on cow-slaughter.
Gandhi also opnied Ban on religious conversion.
Aiyar is the last person who should take Gandhi's name. Because he is furthest from Gandhi;s philosophy.
RE:Is Gandhi the ONLT emblem of National freedom Struggle?
by varun kumar on May 07, 2007 09:47 AM Permalink
The world does not know the name of the Gandhis Killer but the world knows about Gandhi. It is no news that Gandhis killer came from the ideology of hate. How can anyone kill a old peaceful man like Gandhi ? Its only the most cruel in the world who could have done that.
RE:Is Gandhi the ONLT emblem of National freedom Struggle?
by KISALAY BASAK on May 07, 2007 09:52 AM Permalink
IT'S MATTER OF REGRET, THAT OUR WHOLE NATION IS TRYING TO SIDELINE NETAJI SUBHASCHANDRA BOSE AND HIS VALIANT EFFORTS TO UPROOT BRITISH RAJ FROM INDIA THROUGH HIS INA BRIGRADE. NOW ALL OUR SO-CALLED POLITICIANS ARE TRYING TO THEIR BEST TO LICK THE BOOTS OF THE NEHRU GANDHI CLAN TO KEEP THEMSELVES ALIVE IN INDIAN POLITICS!!
RE:Is Gandhi the ONLT emblem of National freedom Struggle?
by Minu Mukherjee on May 07, 2007 10:05 AM Permalink
basak: be assured, Netaji is treated as a national hero by every patriotic indian. It hardly matters what Congress does. It long ceased to be national party who once led national movement.
The authorities, on 10 may, will issue a statement stating all precautions have been taken. Emergency arrangements have been done. On 11 May the race starts. When the marchers reach mid-way some marchers collapse due to extreme heat. Then is no water supply, there is no first-aid, there is no ambulance. Confusion prevails. Everybody is running haywire screaming. Parents are screaming foul on the government. The media has a different angle; they are pocking their mikes in the throats of the sick asking them "how do you feel"? The people go out of control, a lathy charge is initiated. And there goes democracy to the dogs. The billion of the country is entertained, by the media, for days together. All of a sudden authorities emerge and declare compensation packages. What a predictable soap! Past experience shapes Opinion! Why not take a short cut? Why not just distribute some cheques to these marchers in advance and let them sit at home, and let us all enjoy the 'next big thing' on national TV 'the Ash-Abhi Honemoony'! Ridiculous mockery. But all is not lost. Hope is not lost.
Intead of Mahatama Gandhi Mani shankar aiyar should remember the name of Rani laxmi bai, tatya tope, Mangal Pandey, bahadur shah jafar & many more who fought for 1857 kranti, Why only gandhiji always
RE:remember
by on May 07, 2007 11:11 AM Permalink
Pradeep rao Mahatma Gandhi towers over all other figures who fought for our freedom. The Hindu Right and Muslim league were collaborators with the British - the revolutionaries were insignificant - the credit for making the cry for freedom a mass movement that spanned India goes wholly and solely to Bapu. Today, anyone with a BA thinks he can abuse the Mahatma. I only think that today's Congress Party stinks. But I touch the feet of bapu.
RE:remember
by varun kumar on May 07, 2007 09:17 AM Permalink
Everyone knows Gandhi in the international community. Because Gandhi was killed by a religious fanatic, it becomes even more important to project Gandhi because it shows to the world that we reject all kinds of fanatics and facists.
RE:remember
by Minu Mukherjee on May 07, 2007 09:40 AM Permalink
Gandhi was killed by Godse not for religious reasons, but for seclar casue. Everybody was upset that Gandhi was asking Govt of India to pay some huge money to Govt of Pakistan which didn't make any sense in those tumultous days of partition.
Godse was LESS religious than Gandhi.
Nehru/Patel didn;t pay the promised sum top Pakistan by the way.
RE:remember
by bajrangi on May 07, 2007 09:18 AM Permalink
He he he he he....
Mani know only gandhi, nehru, indira, and gandhi-nehru members as freedom fighters. Even if these persons were great fighters, What role they had in 1857 war. They were not even born that time. This is new hight of chamchagiri of congress.
He is the same person who abused Mr Veer Savarakar at Andamans during one program 1 year back and did not even bothered to apologise later.
Intead of him inaugrating this great historical event, It should have been some one like INA Captain Laxmi Sehgal or likes.
