Dear all we should be pragmatic & progressive in our approach.knowingly or unknowningly most of the times we do & spread what anti-national elements want.by no mean poltics of hatred can pave development paths.it is a great idea to be united, but at what domain.suppose all the hindus are united,all the muslims are united,all the cristians are united,all the sikhs are united..... i.e. all the communities are seperately united, what will be the result?there will be a chaos in country.instead what is required is united country i.e. all the communities are united collectively, then only we can make a strong country.corrupt leadres are making advantages by polarization politics.they are dividing us in the name of religion,caste,sector etc. & most of us are their simple prey.please stop these hatred politics.it will only destroy our nation.it is impossible for any particular community to supress or wipe out any other community.think & then try to be united to make a strong nation. EVERY SINCERE PERSON SHOULD REALIZE THE ROOT CAUSE & HINDRANCE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.FOR ME IT IS POPULATION (IMMIDIATELY TO BE CONTROLLED),ILLITERACY,LACK OF PROPER PLANNING & INFRASTRUCTURE,UNEVEN DISTRIBUTION OF RESOURCES & ABOVE ALL TRUE LEADERSHIP.IF INTELLECTUALS WRITE & FIGHT IN SUCH WAYS THEN WHY TO SAY ABOUT POOR VILLEGERS & UNEDUCATED PERSONS.IT IS OUR DUTY TO SPREAD AWARENESS AMONGST THOSE WHO ARE IN DARK.BY THE WAY IT IS UPTO US WHETHER WE WANT TO SEE OUR COUNTRY STRONG OR FRAGMENTED & WEAK.BUT AT LEAST WE CAN SPREAD AWARENESS & LOVE ,
Hindus cannot be united against injustice until castism is removed from India.
It is upto the so called 'higher caste', especially the Brahmins to abolish any form of castism from Hinduism.
Merely blaming politicians for everything is not a solution. Why are we being hypocratical? We tell muslims to correct wrong teachings within Islam but have done little to abolish castism within India. Merely saying that the scriptures doesnt talk about caste/varna etc is not enough, my brothers. If the religion has not created it, but the people following it have then it is upto the same people to abolish it.
Any normal person can reason that caste system "based on birth" was created by the so called higher caste, in order to maintain their status in society. Every indian should work to abolish it..but more so the brahmins. Instead of blaming reservation..which itself is bad..abolish castism itself..where is the question of reservation then?
Some simple ways of abolishing it although there might be more ways
1. Make it illegal to ask anyone or mention in any document ones caste 2. Ban mentioning caste while seeking marriage proposals in newspaper/websites. 3. Anybody should be able to be a priest not just a brahmin 4. Ban surnames that identify with caste
Unless these things are done with serious efforts and just given lip service... or one or two symbols of abolishing caste..forget about any form of national unity...We need modern thinking and action..Brahmins(especially the youths) wake up!
RE:Eradicate castism from India
by Saibaskar Parthasarathy on May 04, 2007 10:05 AM Permalink
Does that mean brahmins can remain the 'UPPER' caste forever... It is brahminism that has alienated hindus from it's own religion. But, remember there are more faultlines in our caste system today. Many upper caste have become backward to get into reservation bandwagon. It is not the brahmins but these so called backward castes who are greatest caste abusers. Caste cannot be eradicated as long as it is officially recognized. Remove caste from everything including surnames to govt documents and encourage inter-caste marriages casteism will be gone from India in say 20 - 30 years.
RE:Eradicate castism from India
by Sam on May 04, 2007 12:30 AM Permalink
doesnt mean others should be subservient? Isnt this high handed thought the cause for caste based division
I am not blaming Brahmins as people. But there is no doubt that firm action must be taken by Brahmins to eradicate castism..why should brahmins be against this?If anyone can abolish castism fastest in India they can! But do they have the will power or the motive?
RE:Eradicate castism from India
by vg on May 04, 2007 07:12 AM Permalink
u mean firm action must be taken by brahmins! so u still want bahmins to take a lead role as they have done in the past?
RE:Eradicate castism from India
by Sam on May 04, 2007 09:47 PM Permalink
Saibhaskar you are correct and we as the new generation need to find ways to remove this curse from our society.
Yes many commentators above have said that many very lower caste people have left hinduism because of wretchedness caused by caste based actions. What has the upper caste done to remove this cause of 'alienation' among these people?
Dear brother vg, I am not against brahmins. I never am. Yes many knowledgeable brahmins have done a lot of good things for this country. But it would be foolish to think that only brahmins have done so. Say brahmins have done 99 good things, but they have also allowed the 1 bad thing-castism to continue..do you want to have that bad mark against brahmins? If no, then work in abolishing castism. And yes, ur right..take the lead as you have done gloriously so many times in the past. If no, you want it to continue and leave things as they are, then it would confirm the allegation against the higher caste that it was in their interest to let castism continue.
Just a query..Arent yadavas supposed to be descendents of Lord Krishna..? Wasnt he a kshatriya? If so arent yadavas kshatriyas..ie higher caste? Then why they also get reservation?..pardon my ignorance if any..once again this question is just for my understanding and not to hurt anyone.
RE:Eradicate castism from India
by Great on May 05, 2007 02:36 AM Permalink
Whatever happend a history now.
Now a days everybody busy and no body will ask your caste. Some of the documentation will need your crap because of reservation. Plenty of jobs open for all. You can not stop competition because it is amatter of every day food.
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by Great on May 05, 2007 02:43 AM Permalink
Work hard and minimize the balance. Everybody working as a slave in this world. In India, Difference between high paid and low paid are more compare to other developed country. During my job, I have visited 13 states and 4 country and found that every where problems. 70% indians lives in Rural area.
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by Saibaskar Parthasarathy on May 04, 2007 10:14 AM Permalink
and who found 0.. several years before so called technologies were 'discovered' by christians People in India, China and Egypt were calculating stuff like earch's diameter and were using trignometry effectively. By the way modern technologies were developed by white christians who defied Christianity to make the discoveries like Galileo's assertion that earth is spherical and not flat as mentioned in bible. You could be a Christian but the power centre of your community will always remain with the whites and you all will always be their slaves.
wen the EC and SC are doign their roles with professionalism and wen their rulings doesnt suit the ruling party, then they get into a confronntation and then we are back to square one...
it will be interesting if one makes a study on the percentage of votes cast in a constituency and the party winning the election one will know who wins why
Election Commission is doing a wonderful job. In such time, when our country is full of corrupt politicians....someone has come forward to save the democracy of in the form of Supereme Court and Election Commission. Our country also needs a strong PM who can control the Gundas. (Like Bajrang dal, VHP, Fatwa dene wale mullah etc.). Yeh gunde jo democracy ko apne baap ki jagir samajhne lage hain inko ek strong PM hi rok sakta hai with the help of Supreme Court....
RE:Indian Democracy hi jeetegi....
by Saibaskar Parthasarathy on May 04, 2007 10:19 AM Permalink
your list misses people who believe democracy to be their family property
RE:Indian Democracy hi jeetegi....
by jailab eqbal on May 03, 2007 04:49 PM Permalink
yes people should keep away from these HSGs Hatred Spreading Groups
I think the Election Commission has done a fantastic job in conducting free, fair and just elections in Uttar Pradesh (WHICH WAS CONVERTED INTO ULTA PRADESH UNDER MULAYAM AND AMAR SINGH DESPITE THE DEMIGOD AMITABH BACHCHAN CALLING IT THE BEST RULED CRIME FREE STATE OF INDIA).
So what if Mayawati is elected in the UP in a free poll. We must respect the verdict of the electorate. I think this is secondary or even tertiary importance. The important thing is that the electorate has been able exercise its franchise without fear.
The EC has kept the hooligans of Samajwadi Party away, eliminated the fear complex and converted the right to vote into reality.
If MULAYAM SINGH and AMAR SINGH are upset about these fair and free elections--TOUGH!!!!! They may as well go jump in the GANGA, the public couldn't care less for such politicians.
The Congress which supported the corrupt and inefficient Government of Mulayam for so long also deserves to be routed for its hypocrisy
Its great news to see that the Election Commission is upholding the most process to Democracy so well...So its not advantage any body !!! Its advantage Democarcy ..
