5% of Brahmins has occupied 80% of important post.12% of SC only occupy 2% of jobs.Until SC/ST/OBC/Miniorities get united this upper cost will not allow to get job in Governent services.
RE:Reservation
by Red Planet on Mar 30, 2007 09:14 PM Permalink
Who the hell you are, offering a sepsrate state/nation. Don't force us to use abusive language.
RE:Reservation
by m on Mar 31, 2007 11:57 AM Permalink
Sorry too late now. Take up our generous offer and brace yourself. http://www.blogpoll.com/poll/view_Poll.php?type=java&poll_id=108166
RE:Reservation
by Biswajit Ghoshal on Mar 30, 2007 06:01 PM Permalink
Oye ramu - Brahmins did not get there because they are brahmins or through reservation, but because they proved their abilities in getting those jobs. SCs have enough govt-programs to educate themselves and write competitive exams - nobody bars them from taking those. If they can qualify they are welcome to take the posts? Why do they want to go there by reservation - is it because they are sure that they are much inferior in terms of elegibility and by fair competition they can't score above Brahmins?
RE:Reservation
by Stephen Nadar on Mar 30, 2007 05:59 PM Permalink
This guy ramu doesnt know anythg abt govt jobs. The efficency of the govt worker are reduced largerly because of this quota system. You People dream of Govt jobs so that u dont have to work hard , have a stable job with union dont want to perform and earn simply get the money and drain the county. when will u grow up and see what ur quota system has done to efficiency
RE:Reservation
by sithiran on Mar 31, 2007 05:57 AM Permalink
Yes it is true that the women in nanjilnadu which was part of the then THIRUVITHANKUR samasthanam had been threatened to have no clothes over there breast by the upper caste ,that too againt one particular caste women, even if they wanted they had to pay for it.There was a protest in nanjil nadu against this inhuman way of treatiment meted out to people, famously called as thol seelai porattam-means cloth for the upper half of the body.
I really appreciate the TN government's progressive move.
Although not a South Indian, I am a great fan of Tamil music channels. (For all the wrong reasons of course!)
I find gross inequalities in Tollywood. Most of the actresses are so fair! Such injustice is really heart-breaking.
The TN government should make it mandatory for all the Tamil movie directors to reserve at least 25% of the lead roles for actresses with dark complexion. If the movie-wallahs do not agree the same can be enforced through a Bill. Like the famous 69% quota bill.
RE:India should follow TN
by Stephen Nadar on Mar 30, 2007 05:42 PM Permalink
And the impt point that there are hardly any tamil speaking actress in Tollywood.
Why can't start one OBC trust to take care of all the oBC families if you polticians are so sympathy with them. shame 57 years we have completed but you people are unable to slove the problem simply when court judgement against your decision you want to amend the law in parliament than where stands democracy it is like Sadam hussain
Karunanidhi said Tamil Nadu was the "birthplace of social justice, reservation of seats in educational institutions and in government services for the backward classes, most backward classes, denotified communities, scheduled castes and tribes for several decades."
What happened to the backwards when they were given reservation on the basis of thier castes for decades? If the social justice was so good, why thousands of the dalits got converted and converting into christianity?
There is virtually no connection between social justice and reservations. The effect of quota system is further alienation and apartheid of the lower castes.
Reservation is not the solution. The solution lies in confidence building measures between the castes.The solution lies in giving incentives to the deserving - Upper caste or lower, if a person is of substance and he needs help, the goverment should provide it.
People like Arjunsingh and Karunanidhi are sick. They will poison the society with mutual hatered. They want India to be a weak and disintegrated populace so that they can rule. They are real agents of the devil.
I am against the present form of reservation followed in INDIA, because
Where the daughter of an IFS officer turned President of India still claim her self as a member of weaker section and join IFS under quota and still call herself as member of weaker section and can push through her children under reservation,
Where all the central and state ministers who are crorepathi, still call them selves as weaker section and claim all the benefits to their children under reservation,
Where all the MPs and MLAs who are richest among the rich still call them selves as weaker section and can push through their children under reservation,
Where public and private sector employees drawing laks of rupees as salary and who are also IT assesses, still call them selves as weaker section and claim all the benefits to their children under reservation,
Where all businessmen possessing assets worth for crores and crores of money still call them selves as weaker section and can push through their children under reservation.
But on the contrary some sections of the society in the name of CASTE, will be denied of any such benefits in spite of the fact that still most of them are poorer than the members of the so called downtrodden community.
Where a small group of persons in the so called downtrodden community still call them selves as weaker section and can push through their children under reservation again and again and corners the benefit of reservation for generations together and denying the same to the members of their own community who actually deserves for the same.
INDIAN style of reservation is nothing but a State sponsored fraud on its subjects.
This is very good move by TN to ensure social justice.
TN is always forerunner in everything and it always leads India in every aspect.
The native people of Inidans are sacked and suppressed by cunning and selfish aryans who came through Cyber Pass from Central Asia and dominated our socitey.
They created the caste system and divided the entire India in the name of Manu Dharma(bull shit). And implemented those for morethan 2000 years.
Just after Independence now only the suppressed people comming out slowly and getting their basic human rights, but the cunning aryans esp Bhramins still trying to supress them.
All we need to implement is, no seats to Brhamins and make them as slave or through out of India. That is the right punishmen for their past cunning and cruel actions.....
RE:Good move by TN....
by Balaji Mathaiyan on Mar 30, 2007 05:34 PM Permalink
Ha Ha Ha Ha !!!! Here all indian resources including human resources taken by MNCs. All are becoming Slaves to WTO and US Imperialism. Here none can escape from them. But here these guys are struggle(Dravidians) for social justice. What a Comedy !!!
Here Karunanidhi asks to PM or any body!!! But oppresses poor farmers and small shop owners by allowing ***** Reliance in Retail Sector ****. Where his social justice and all rationalist thoughts are gone!!!!
Here Fake Communists CPI,CPM also will protest. But they done nothing in WestBangal except killing farmers!!!!!!!
RE:Good move by TN....
by Jurist Jurist on Mar 30, 2007 05:18 PM Permalink
I am against the present form of reservation followed in INDIA, because
Where the daughter of an IFS officer turned President of India still claim her self as a member of weaker section and join IFS under quota and still call herself as member of weaker section and can push through her children under reservation,
Where all the central and state ministers who are crorepathi, still call them selves as weaker section and claim all the benefits to their children under reservation,
Where all the MPs and MLAs who are richest among the rich still call them selves as weaker section and can push through their children under reservation,
Where public and private sector employees drawing laks of rupees as salary and who are also IT assesses, still call them selves as weaker section and claim all the benefits to their children under reservation,
Where all businessmen possessing assets worth for crores and crores of money still call them selves as weaker section and can push through their children under reservation.
But on the contrary some sections of the society in the name of CASTE, will be denied of any such benefits in spite of the fact that still most of them are poorer than the members of the so called downtrodden community.
Where a small group of persons in the so called downtrodden community still call them selves as weaker section and can push through their children under reservation again and again and corners the benefit of reservation for generations together and denying the same to the members of their own community who actually deserves for the same.
INDIAN style of reservation is nothing but a State sponsored fraud on its subjects.
RE:RE:Good move by TN....
by aravind sathya on Mar 30, 2007 06:10 PM Permalink
report all messages that are sent by INA as abuse ... i think he is still 300 or 100 years back . Through him away . If u can give some good suggetions u r welcome else it will be better if you can keep u r mouth closed
RE:Good move by TN....
by Girish on Mar 30, 2007 05:11 PM Permalink
Oh yeah aryans should go back to central asia thru Khyber (Cyber? Lol... beam me up!) pass. The dravidians should go back to Altaic mountains thru Bolan pass, or bury themselves in Mohanjedaro/ Harappa. The north easterners must do a high jump into China/ Burma. The tribals / adivasis alone should live in India, it's their land. What say?
RE:Good move by TN....
by Anil Agarwal on Mar 30, 2007 05:19 PM Permalink
These kind of hatred articles can be posted by a PAKI only. Who are you?..Appreciate if you reveal your true identity. The people like you should be hanged till death or should be beaten brutally using CHAPPALS by indians then only social equality can come.
To which world you belong. People like you get wrong information from all the corners and become facist. They also try to mislead people all the time. Problem in our country is that ther are so may stories ( I don't know which is correct and which is wrong and who originally said those for their vested interest.). These stories are always misused by people like you and spread hatred.
There are problems in every society and I firmly believe that social equality is more economic than caste based. We will fight together to overcome the hurdels and make India superpower.
But the way our wolf like political leaders want to implement quota is wrong. Problem is that these leaders have to beg votes all the time to the common citizens so they want our society polarized and that will help them to achieve their goals.
See SC is not dependent on votes and their decisions are so logical.
RE:[object]
by veer singh on Mar 30, 2007 05:49 PM Permalink
anil, if the supreme court was dependent on votes,the judges would not be so autacratic,facist,inhuman ,selfish,high handed and corrupt like the present judges of the supreme court are.
RE:Good move by TN....
by Chanakya on Mar 30, 2007 05:52 PM Permalink
INA, do not get so emotional with the Aryan invasion. They were more powerful, so they won. Muslims were even more powerful than the Aryans. So they won. The British were the most powerful. So they won over all. That keeps happening. Why should one crib?
As per your logic the Indian Army should attack Bangladesh because our cricket team lost to that country!
RE:Good move by TN....
by aravind sathya on Mar 30, 2007 06:16 PM Permalink
report all messages that are sent by INA as abuse ... i think he is still 300 or 1000 years back . Through him away . If u can give some good suggetions u r welcome else it will be better if you can keep u r mouth closed
tamilnadu is the spoilt state and most credit for this goes to this MK. His objective is not to help backwards, his objective is to drive out the brahmins only because they are the only group of people who is keeping the Hinduism alive in Tamilnadu. This is the only reason why he pretends to help other classes and minorities. when i say this, this is applicable to all the parties in TN. Since they get so much support and brahmins are almost driven out, they fight amoung themselves. Now this guy wants to come into national level too to do the same thing. Since most TN crowd supports one of these dravidar parties, this clearly show that the entire crowd in this state is in the side of evil due to their ignorance. This was the state which was rich in culture once, but ask any of your friends about the tamil culture, you will be surprised that they won't be even able to pronounce 'tamizh' properly.
RE:Tamilnadu is a spoiled state
by Jurist Jurist on Mar 30, 2007 05:19 PM Permalink
Hai INA I am against the present form of reservation followed in INDIA, because
Where the daughter of an IFS officer turned President of India still claim her self as a member of weaker section and join IFS under quota and still call herself as member of weaker section and can push through her children under reservation,
Where all the central and state ministers who are crorepathi, still call them selves as weaker section and claim all the benefits to their children under reservation,
Where all the MPs and MLAs who are richest among the rich still call them selves as weaker section and can push through their children under reservation,
Where public and private sector employees drawing laks of rupees as salary and who are also IT assesses, still call them selves as weaker section and claim all the benefits to their children under reservation,
Where all businessmen possessing assets worth for crores and crores of money still call them selves as weaker section and can push through their children under reservation.
But on the contrary some sections of the society in the name of CASTE, will be denied of any such benefits in spite of the fact that still most of them are poorer than the members of the so called downtrodden community.
Where a small group of persons in the so called downtrodden community still call them selves as weaker section and can push through their children under reservation again and again and corners the benefit of reservation for generations together and denying the same to the members of their own community who actually deserves for the same.
INDIAN style of reservation is nothing but a State sponsored fraud on its subjects.
Q: Why did MK not call a bandh over Cauvery issue? A: Udaya TV revenues in Karnataka Q: Why did MK not call a bandh over Mullaperiyar? A: Soorya TV revenues in Kerala Q: Why did MK not call a bandh over damming of Palar by AP? A: Gemini TV revenues in AP Q: Why did MK call for bandh over 27% OBC quota? A: The family hasn't yet started a TV channel targetted exclusively at forward castes
RE:Why no bandh for other issues?
by INA on Mar 30, 2007 05:02 PM Permalink
I feel pitty for your comments.... Following are the real answers for that.
Why did MK not call a bandh over Cauvery issue? A: Cauvery TN got a fair deal, so need for bandh. Q: Why did MK not call a bandh over Mullaperiyar? A: SC gave verdict in favour of TN, so why should we call for bandh. Q: Why did MK not call a bandh over damming of Palar by AP? A: AP govt accepted that we will not do anything without consulting TN govt. Then whts the need of Bandh. Q: Why did MK call for bandh over 27% OBC quota? A: Because its the cunning and selfish brahmins suppressed all the innocen people for around 2000 years, he is like a saviour who called for bandh to protect them and bring back thier basic human rights.
RE:RE:Why no bandh for other issues?
by Stephen Nadar on Mar 30, 2007 05:06 PM Permalink
but tamilnadu already has the highest caste based quota. Why you want more.. Dont u have self respect and self confidence that u can on ur own can come up in life
RE:Why no bandh for other issues?
by INA on Mar 30, 2007 05:12 PM Permalink
Ha ha ha speaking about self respect.
For morethan 2000 years, you never allowed anybody to get even primary education. And you enjoyed 100% reservation for morethan 2000 years, but these people asking for 68% reservation that too they are enjoying it for only around 30 years.
The community who enjoyed 100% reservation for 2000 years has no rights to talk about self-confidence and self-respects, because they are all like WOLFS.....
RE:Why no bandh for other issues?
by Stephen Nadar on Mar 30, 2007 05:16 PM Permalink
INA u dont know anythg abt Tamilnadu caste system... FYI nadar comes under OBC.. and never in my life i have take quota in anything..
68% reservation... better do one thing give 32% reservation to the other side..what do u say
RE:Why no bandh for other issues?
by INA on Mar 30, 2007 05:19 PM Permalink
If you are not taking quota thats up to you, But most of my friends from Nadar community are still using it and they are in very good position now, If the 69% reservation is not there then they might be doing some village cooli work right now in TN, thats the power of resevation....
RE:Why no bandh for other issues?
by Jurist Jurist on Mar 30, 2007 05:31 PM Permalink
Hai INA, What nonsense you are talking. You on your own admit that some of your friends are in very good position by availing the reservation. That is the truth and That is what SC also held while staying the Act. The 1931 data furnished before the SC never speaks the true story. Now all sections of the society gained advancement and it is the right time to put an end to reservation.
RE:Why no bandh for other issues?
by Stephen Nadar on Mar 30, 2007 05:31 PM Permalink
There is this minister called Chagal Bhujwal in Maharashtra. He owes Medical college, sugar mills etc and one of the richest in India. He is an OBC. Do you feel he or his family member should be given quote benefit.
Or do you feel that he was ever supressed in his life. if he had been than he would have been a coliee in some village of maha.
You want to beg you beg. I believed in my talent and i can proudly say that i come up with any bolw in my hand. If you agree that ur r a begger than no issue, i full fill that u shud be given a quota
RE:Why no bandh for other issues?
by Jurist Jurist on Mar 30, 2007 05:19 PM Permalink
I am against the present form of reservation followed in INDIA, because
Where the daughter of an IFS officer turned President of India still claim her self as a member of weaker section and join IFS under quota and still call herself as member of weaker section and can push through her children under reservation,
Where all the central and state ministers who are crorepathi, still call them selves as weaker section and claim all the benefits to their children under reservation,
Where all the MPs and MLAs who are richest among the rich still call them selves as weaker section and can push through their children under reservation,
Where public and private sector employees drawing laks of rupees as salary and who are also IT assesses, still call them selves as weaker section and claim all the benefits to their children under reservation,
Where all businessmen possessing assets worth for crores and crores of money still call them selves as weaker section and can push through their children under reservation.
But on the contrary some sections of the society in the name of CASTE, will be denied of any such benefits in spite of the fact that still most of them are poorer than the members of the so called downtrodden community.
Where a small group of persons in the so called downtrodden community still call them selves as weaker section and can push through their children under reservation again and again and corners the benefit of reservation for generations together and denying the same to the members of their own community who actually deserves for the same.
INDIAN style of reservation is nothing but a State sponsored fraud on its subjects.
RE:Why no bandh for other issues?
by Balaji Mathaiyan on Mar 30, 2007 05:44 PM Permalink
Even though these Quotas are given there is no poor one going to utilise. Instead of that Rich OBC peoples only get seats.
Here these guys are not able to fund for Govt Engg Colleges like Bargur Engg College.
Thay have no intensions to improve the stats of Govt Eng Colleges. But doing political dramas!!!
RE:Why no bandh for other issues?
by rajagopalan nadimuthu on Mar 31, 2007 07:15 PM Permalink
When all institutions are closed including petty shop keepers under force ,why sun TV alone should function.Is it logical or reasonable or justifiable ? Tell me sir. RAJ
RE:Why no bandh for other issues?
by Nandakumar M on Mar 30, 2007 05:01 PM Permalink
Wrong. His family channels are already targetted at forward caste(aka brahmins), but in all negative sense.
shame on tamil nadu. whatelse we will have when we have an old CM ruling the state he will use the caste system to exploit. Heard his son is married to a Dalit women. Think he got his son married under the quoto system ;-)
