Why r u so angry?as u r not able to digest that lady(shudra as mentioned in varna system) from backward community has come up and have ruled UP(biggest state in india).grow up.this will happen in future, u will hav to accept this fact.This is not ur old stupid varna system.Now all are equal and they have right to be together with main stream.Only those who cant want this to happen will speak abusive language as their varna and mother hav taught them to do so. Be a proud indian.
RE:slap to manu's varna system
by Hilal Ahmed on Apr 01, 2007 04:48 PM Permalink
I do understand your point about the caste/varna system and I do not have any problem in accepting the fact that the caste has an important hegemonic role to play in Indian politics. That said, I am bit concerned about the trajectories of Dalit politics in UP. We should remember that late Kanshi Ram's conception of Bahujan was an innovative idea which actually redefined the nature of affirmative action in the Indian context. However, what Mayawati did or has been doing is something which does not very clearly reflect the principles on which the entire dalit movement is based. One can not see philosophy of Ambedkar or political commitments of Kanshi Ram in this kind of politics. So, the point is that Dalit politics should question this kind of politics from the point of view of broader emancipation. We should remember that electoral politics has a limited, though very significant, role to play. But that should not be the ultimate goal. Social and economic emancipation based on the principles of equality should be the goal and for that we need to have a critical approach.
RE:slap to manu's varna system
by Serial Tourist on Apr 01, 2007 06:12 PM Permalink
The same convert going around with different handles posting anti-Hindu stuff while the moderator sleeps. Or is the moderator himself inserting these?
wah taj what a wonderful politics,kal tak panditon ko juta marne wali aj unki messiah hahaaaaa the real fact is she is neither dalits nor brahmins messiah she is messiah of money money & only money...if you ask honestly Mulayam Mayawati they are the real politics pollution creaters and one more Dal badlu ajit singh ji
RE:Brahmins Messiah hahaaaaaa
by KALYAN MITRA on Apr 02, 2007 09:36 AM Permalink
India can be a better place with no political parties, under rules of president like DR.KALAM, PM like Mr.Vajpayee, HM like Mr.Advani and economist like DR.SINGH.
Yes , if these four people rule our country in next twenty years with no feelings of caste,religion, reservation, India will be super power.
Uniform civil code and feelings for country should be base criteria.
RE:Brahmins Messiah hahaaaaaa
by Amrit Patil on Apr 03, 2007 01:34 PM Permalink
KALAM, BAJPAI & Dr. SINGH are Ok but ADVAAAAANI ? Bhagawan desh ka bhala Kare.
Well friends to start with we should know that who invented caste system in Hinduism???? an most important act is that WHY ?? WHY?? What was the need to do so ??? The answer of these question will reveal the truth that thee so called brahmins still beleive and practice in castism. Till they do so reservation will remain as reality and not a myth.
RE:CASTE SYSTEMIN HINDUISM !! WHO WAS INVENTOR?
by ashwini gupta on Apr 01, 2007 03:28 PM Permalink
dear Deepak Caste system does not exist in our religion. and our religion is Sanatan Dharma not Hinduism. Infact The word Hinduism itself does not exist in our scriptures. This word was given by persian people to those who were living to the east side of Indus river. Our scriptures call our eligion as Sanatan Dharma, Sanatan means spmething which has no beginning and no end, something that is eternal. Caste system was not in our religion, We had Varnasrama system which divide work according to ones mode of nature and not by ones birth in a particular family. But due to the influence of Kaliyuga Varnasrama system has been eroded. and its perverted form Caste system has come up.
One needs to read ones scriptures before blaming any religion. Our scriptures are most authoritaive , exhaustive and complete and describe every branch of knowledge completely. They have everything what all the other religion of world have plus much more than that. One should first read it and then comment. Hare Krishna
RE:CASTE SYSTEMIN HINDUISM !! WHO WAS INVENTOR?
by deepak deepak on Apr 01, 2007 04:35 PM Permalink
Dear ashwani....i donot agree with you because u always write hindu in the column prescribed for religion..... do u write " Sanatan Dharma??? NO....
RE:CASTE SYSTEMIN HINDUISM !! WHO WAS INVENTOR?
by sabu abraham on Apr 22, 2007 10:12 PM Permalink
then why the BJP fools uttering the word hindu and hindutha every 24 hours. dear ashwini you please go and teach those BJP AND RSS people. at present that so called sanatan dharma is not existing in india. hindutha,casteism hateism and moneyism is existing.
RE:CASTE SYSTEMIN HINDUISM !! WHO WAS INVENTOR?
by Serial Tourist on Apr 01, 2007 06:05 PM Permalink
Very nicely said, gupta jee. Ignore the comments of converts.
RE:RE:CASTE SYSTEMIN HINDUISM !! WHO WAS INVENTOR?
by CY BA on Apr 01, 2007 04:05 PM Permalink
Guptaji, don%u2019t fool us, caste system is very much part of Hinduism, you call it Varnasrama or anything, you Brahmins used your position in the religion and exploited us, I wonder any is there any morality is there in the Hinduism, you have all justification in Vedas and Puranas to your evil act, so don%u2019t point finger to your books, to get reall clarity on Hinduism got to any non-Brahmin Sanskrit scholar they will interpret what is real meaning of Vedas and Puranas, Brahmins always fools us with Sanskrit word casue they want to save their ancestor ass.
