i hav travelled to every nook and corner of bihar and jharkhand and can only say that all which is written over here is highly glorified.It may be a one of wonder but the reality is very grim.The bihari society is very backward,caste,religion driven and they don't want to work in their state although they may do worst jobs in other places.I thought this reporter was very lucky not to hav got looted and murdered on her way to rajgir.the place where the bimbisara jail is located is highly naxal infested and no guide or local wld dare to take u over there.What cld hav been a very prosperous state is nothing but hell.ask any labour over there.There is also a trend to be seen tht of late the biharis in the media are trying to restore the bihari pride even if it means vested journalism.There is a chance for bihar to reform itself and i hope its ppl wake up soon and as for the government i firmly believe tht people get wht they deserve.
What you are saying may be logical,but my dear friend why can't we consider this as a positive outlook towards Bihar after having loads of criticism that has been bestowed upon us so far. Regards
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by mohak chaudhary on Mar 29, 2007 02:15 PM Permalink
read my last line-- although there is still chance for bihar to rise and i hope they do soon. iam not negative.isn't it?
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by Ritu Agrawal on Mar 29, 2007 03:42 PM Permalink
before blabbering tell me if you know so much and supposly RICH from the RICHEST state then y u didn't do anything about it. Speaking on rooftops is very easy but bringing a change is difficult...
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by Manoj K on Mar 29, 2007 02:13 PM Permalink
Sounds like you are avid traveller, who got opportunity to travel every nook and corner of Bihar!!!!!!!!! One day you will be in guiness book. Good luck
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by mohak chaudhary on Mar 29, 2007 02:20 PM Permalink
yes sir an avid traveller,a good one may be i shd start travelling even more to achieve tht record.
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by Billy Zane on Mar 29, 2007 02:38 PM Permalink
Mr. Mohak which other states u have visited specially every nook & corner. Where ever is prblm we start criticising the ppl over there. Prblm is not with biharis, prblm is with u guys who dont know the fact. there is no education, empowerment, nothing has been done for the upliftment of ppl over there by Govt, no infrastructure in that region itself. There is no enough food, they have not seen electricity so far forget TV, Radio, & other basic amneties that is why ppl there involve in criminal activities, if they dont go out of that area to earn for there livelihood, it is very easy to pass comment on these ppl sitting in airconditioned office, but if u see the reality, I am sure tears will come in ur eyes. So grow up friend & appreciate any small good thing. Heads up to Rediff. Please show real picture of Bihar, Eastern U.P. Bengal Orissa
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by mohak chaudhary on Mar 29, 2007 02:42 PM Permalink
nobody gifted me my office and the airconditioner although iam saving money,using jst fan as of now.worked very hard for it,sweat,blood and tears r not alien to me sir
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by ashu singh on Mar 29, 2007 02:30 PM Permalink
Dear Mohak, I would wonder how did u get the kind of sentiments u r vomiting out here. Biharis going out of Bihar (but in their own country) for job - if u consider this as a bad syndrome, then how wud u praise those gujju/punjabis who have flocked US/abroad almost everywhere and are regarded as our own powerful NRIs. Does that mean these punjabis/Gujjus donot want to work in their country? Dude, I bet u dat even u wud flee to US at the first opportunity. wudnt u? but does that make India a wrong/rotten country? And for ur other observation dat bihari society is backward and blah blah blah.. As u claim U got dat impression after visiting every nooks and corner of the state. I guess, u wudnt have visited the nooks and corner of other states to give u a fair comparison.
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by Nilotpal Pathak on Mar 29, 2007 02:40 PM Permalink
Friends ...Please ignore Mohak. He might have had a bad experience. I guess we are unnecessarily giving him importance. Let him be happy with his worldview.
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by mohak chaudhary on Mar 29, 2007 02:37 PM Permalink
i hope the vomit didn't land on ur face??
there's prb with every region but ppl accept it and try to improve,they don't take centuries to do tht.
don't give me the panjabi/gujju example,panjab is the most properous state and gujrat(forgettin 2002) is damm good an industrial hub.don't forget panjab had millitancy jst a decade back and look where its now.
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by vikesh rajan on Mar 29, 2007 02:46 PM Permalink
mr. mohak, half of the punjabi guys who r staying abroad are truck drivers. i know its gonna hurt ur punjabi sentiments, but truth is truth. isn`t it? now open ur bad mouth and vomitt something else...
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by vikesh rajan on Mar 29, 2007 02:55 PM Permalink
sorry to say ,but its u who r pointing fingers on others and praising ur self, sorry for ur short memory.. and i dont want to come in ur teritorry of driving, i got better work to do in life.
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by ashu singh on Mar 29, 2007 02:57 PM Permalink
@Mohak Chaudhary.. Yeah rite Dude.. Dats wht indians r famous for.. n of course u r one of those bright/burning example..
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by mohak chaudhary on Mar 29, 2007 03:21 PM Permalink
its u who got it burned,go apply some sattu on it at least its something which bihar exports.hehe
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by vikesh rajan on Mar 29, 2007 02:52 PM Permalink
hey i have a question for u mohit... R u a sardar by any chance??? no offense please...
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by rahul kumar on Mar 29, 2007 02:01 PM Permalink
Mr Mohak, Being on one side of the screen doesn't mean darkness on the other side. What you have experienced is because the bad things are just more hyped rather than the good things done here. There are many good work carried in and around Patna by UNISEF and UNESCO to bring a change. But what is required more is to change the mindset of we the people, our perception of bihar.....we need to beleive that thigs can change and can change very rapidly....Who know in a decade or two, this place can be boasted of a new revolution.(and mark my words, erstwhie Bihar, Jharkhand is going to be the state to watch out for another industrial revolution in India)
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by mohak chaudhary on Mar 29, 2007 02:03 PM Permalink
why do u need unisef and unesco to do work for u,tht's coz no bihari wants to work,simple.
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by rahul kumar on Mar 29, 2007 02:15 PM Permalink
UNISEF or UNESCO working doesn't mean some foreign nationals working. They are all made up of people from us, who after passing from esteemed institues like TISS are looking for the upliftment of the people there. Please refrain from commenting if u dont know the truth!
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by mohak chaudhary on Mar 29, 2007 02:24 PM Permalink
i know bro.and i also hav seen the extent of corruption in the too.the ngo's hav fat bellies.
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by Bikas Jha on Mar 29, 2007 02:28 PM Permalink
Dear Mohak, I am well travelled too, not only in Bihar but also in other states. In most of the cases prosparity vanishes the moment you go to remote areas (except Gujrat). Please appreciate the good level of education still survives in Bihar better than many other states. Good or bad people are at every where. I think you are bit too to talk harsh about Biharis.
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by Kunal Yadav on Mar 29, 2007 02:16 PM Permalink
So Mr Mohak, You proclaim to have travelled across every nook and corner of Bihar and what you found was only backwardness! Was there nothing to appreciate? In other way, that reflects that how backward you are in your own thoughts !!
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by mohak chaudhary on Mar 29, 2007 02:21 PM Permalink
one thing i do appreciate is tht u get chilli chicken(sorry chicken chilli) and chilli paneer(paneer chilli) real cheap in patna.35 bks for full plate and not badly made at all.
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by mohak chaudhary on Mar 29, 2007 02:13 PM Permalink
mohak singh chaudhary jst speaks the truth tht also at point blank range,tht's gotta hurt somebody.
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by vikesh rajan on Mar 29, 2007 02:28 PM Permalink
mr. Mohak Chaudhary, i m really sorry and shocked to know ur ill mentality. may god give u a right vision & courage to judge the person, and to appreciate the good work.
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by vikesh rajan on Mar 29, 2007 02:37 PM Permalink
mr mohak, ur statement confirmed that i was right. y don`t u see a doctor? its good for u only....
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by rajesh kumar on Mar 29, 2007 01:57 PM Permalink
Dear Mohak, Naxal are present in some other states also, so dont point only one state for it, also there is no job opportunity to work in Bihar, hence people are fleeing the state, the same thing is also happening in other states like Bengal, Orissa, etc, so its better read the stats before writing anything. Also, people are very intelligent today so vested journalism does not work. Also saying Bihari society backward is very rude and childish from your part. Due to some people you cant portray the whole society according to them. This reflects some kind of hatred of yours for the Bihari society.
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by mohak chaudhary on Mar 29, 2007 02:00 PM Permalink
mr. rajesh kumar iam so sorry i offended ur bihari pride but the truth hurts isn't??
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by mohak chaudhary on Mar 29, 2007 02:01 PM Permalink
this is one more bihari or for tht matter indian trait ie. not to accept ur shortcomings and continue living in ur own dream shell.
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by rajesh kumar on Mar 29, 2007 02:09 PM Permalink
No I havent got offended, whatever you are saying might be true but being an Indian you might be a helping hand in rebuilding bihar as you have a broad picture of the state regarding its shortcomings, so please help the state by your vision. Every Bihari will bless you for that.
yes sir i wld love to help bihar and in very meagre proportion iam already doing tht- laying out fibre cables in vaishali and nalanda districts to provide internet access.
This article took me back to days when I started my schooling at a small place called Pusa Road near Samastipur. We had similar school where we used to carry jute sacs for sitting in class room. We used to clean class rooms with cow dung and mud and used khesari leaves for cleaning black board. The memory gives me good feeling may be better than sitting in posh MNC office. By: Bikas
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by on Mar 30, 2007 04:11 AM Permalink
Well this posting prompted me to respond back. I went for schooling in a similar school in Pusa Bikas. We turn out to be neighbors! Jai Bihar, Jai Bharat!
The main problem of Bihar is that since past 20-25 years, no development has occurred. At the time of independence and upto 1970's Bihar wss counted as role model for other states to emulate in development. But the rascal politician and central govermnent in power totally neglected Bihar and since then it has stagnated. Instead of making stories deriding Bihar, the people of this nation should help in restructuring of Bihar. We should not be narrow minded and anti to some of our brothers and sisters from Bihar. If we can help in Kashmir and Afghanistan why dont our people have consideration for Bihar.It is the land of Janak maharaj, Mother Sita, Visvamitra, Karna, Lord Buddha, Asoka And Chanakya. The only fault is that for past 30 years it remain stagnated whereas other parts of our country progressed. Rather than to looking down at Biharis and making stories of their poverty, we should support them in their development. We should not forget that other states had similar level of development 20 years back as Bihar is in now.
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by sanjay tarvade on Mar 29, 2007 02:14 PM Permalink
The men to blame are Biharis themselves for their sorry state. You have allowed people like Lalu to get away with heinous crimes. I wonder how many Biharis who have left the state would like to go back and improve the situation there. And wonder how many Indians would get away from the politics and politicians in their day to day life and work towards an uncorrupt and an acceptable life. I think if we stop the corrupt officials and politicians rigging our country India has enough resources and manpower to deal with anything and anyone. The pride should come from within. Jai Hind !!!
The first thought when I read the title of the article was that its another piece of crap about BIhar and article ridiculing Biharis. But kudos to Ms. ARCHANA for standing out and trying to come out with a balanced view about the state of affairs in Bihar. Its not like every thing is rosy in Bihar, but the state which was neglected by one and all and then despised is trying to make up fast. God willing it will shift from lowest to highest in all rankings which we are so obsessed with
Due to some politicians Bihar apathy has grown in the last decade or so, its only due to these bunch of criminals and fools who ruled Bihar and catalysed the downslide of the state. Due to them Biharis are often regarded as jokers or baffons.
Hello Sir, Nice to see some constructive journalism and that too about a state whose perception in an average Indian mind is not very good. Being a Bihari myself, I know many of such really grassroot level work done. its just that these news dont find a mention or are overshadowed by the political news. Hats off to you Sir for bringing out this story. Need more of these constructive articles in rediff rather than gossip masala news.
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by chandan prabhakar on Mar 29, 2007 01:32 PM Permalink
Couldn't have agreed more.I am myself a Bihari and as you said,lots of grass-roots are going on in Bihar.yes,we have had a history of being stuck in time warp when other states were zooming away ..but better late than never. These sort of things need to be shown to improve Bihar's image as well as boost the morale of those who are doing these works. Hats off to rediff,who,I believe was getting lost in tabloid news.Just wish it becomes a norm rather than exception at rediff.
These kids are the future of our India and their education and all round development should be our top priority. Bihar is the state which produces large number of IAS,IIT, CBSE MEDICAL graduates and no doubt, it is becoz of the spirit and hard work shown towards education by the parents. Other states in India have IT and foreign investment to show but no other state has such spirit and zeal towards education.
