I can give you blank check today, that NO CHEMICAL SEZ IS GOING TO COME UP IN WEST BENGAL.
Because it has to be in East Midnapore district.
And ITS SIMPLY NOT POSSIBLE TO ACQUIRE 250 SQUARE KM LAND THERE.
THAT'S WHY BUDDHA IS TRYING TO PASS THE BUCK TO CENTER ALREADY/ CPIM WILL PLAY POLITICS THE WAY THEY DID WITH BAKRESWAR - BUT PEOPLE ARE CALLING THEIR BLUFF ALREADY.
RE:I can give you blank check today, that NO CHEMICAL SEZ IS GOING TO COME UP IN WEST BENGAL.
by ABC XYZ on Mar 29, 2007 10:14 PM Permalink
Mr. Bhaskar "MAOIST" Intellectual Chatto,
Salim Group is coming and will build a chemical hub in front of your and Maa Mamata's nose as will other industrailists. They will not be mislead by fools like you. So, go find some other hideouts before you get banished. FYI, Bakreshwar, et al was during Jyoti Buros time who had no intention of doing things right. Why don't you mention Haldia, which is up, running and making profit? This was under Buddhadeb. So, just shut up and get back to your den with Uttamkumar.
RE:I can give you blank check today, that NO CHEMICAL SEZ IS GOING TO COME UP IN WEST BENGAL.
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Mar 30, 2007 05:35 AM Permalink
Its doubtful that Salim Group is coming! Buddha didn't speak about him in the meeting yesterday.
What Ashok Mitra wrote today in the Telegraph is more worrisome! He wrote, Salim pressuried Buddha for land and he sent police to Nandigram
RE:I can give you blank check today, that NO CHEMICAL SEZ IS GOING TO COME UP IN WEST BENGAL.
by SSCD on Mar 29, 2007 02:43 PM Permalink
Why fertile land of all the world for industrial purpose?? it's immaterial whether chemical or otherwise!!!
Why the governments are bent upon grabbing fertile, agricultural land for industrial use?
Even in green and fertile Bengal we have vast expanses of arid land in two districts - Bankura and Purulia. We have thousands of acres of arid land in the Telangana region of AP, South Bihar, almost whole of Rajasthan and Gujarat, parts of Maharashtra and MP and north-west parts of Orissa.
As I have said repeatedly, let CPIM acquire 10,000 acres land in Burdwan district's eastern part (fertile land) - where CPIM HAS STRONGEST BEST IN INDIA.
EVEN CPIM WILL BE WIPED OUT IF THEY TRY TO ACQUIRE FROM EASTERN BURDWAN DISTRICT.
Nirupan Sen & Benoy Koner - two strong leaders from this part of Burdwan WILL BE PUBLICLY LUNCHED BY PEOPLE IF THEY DARE TO DO THAT.
ITS EASY TO TALK LOUD, LECTURE PEOPLE. AND ITS ANOTHER THING TO SURRENDER FERTILE LAND.
[ And my impression is based on people whom I know and from that region. I have 3-4 CPIM party members who will behave similar way as people from Nandigram]
RE:Please answer this question
by ABC XYZ on Mar 29, 2007 10:16 PM Permalink
They will acquire lands and kick you Maoists and Mamata B out of WB pretty soon. You cannot mislead people for long with your mindless propaganda. Just wait and watch Mr. Maoist.
Infact in the Northern India, the West Bengal is the only state, where land reforms are taken place and the landless farmers and peasants got land in that state.
CPM and communists think Maoists are terrorist in INDIA. Same Communists went to Nepal several times and set up same terrorists group (maoist) in the part of Nepal Government. So what is the character of communists ? You have the answer.
RE:Maoist are Terrorist !!
by ABC XYZ on Mar 29, 2007 10:18 PM Permalink
Who gave you that brilliant idea, Mr. Maoist? Maoist are by products of ISI managed infiltrators causing disruption throughout India. Somewhere they are known as Khalistani, somewhere LET, somewhere Maoists, etc. They are basically the same - Terrorists and they need to be wiped out.
Let's not mix the issue. Let's not mix politics with what the nation really needs.
Even if you are driving a car, you need the same food and water for your body. Although a developed nation, US protects it's farms and farmers. They are highly subsidised even though they have food self-sufficiency. Why? Because they cater to basic requirements. No point in producing cars if you've to beg bowl of of your lunch.
We should not let go fertile land of Ganges to industrialization and toxic pollution.
SEZ are going to do job generation but to what extent? We've a 50 Crores population dependent on agriculture.
Govt has to intervene but for the farmers and not for industrialists. Today, they are doing exactly opposite, they are campaigning for SEZs from Indistrialists side, for obvious vested interests (I agree we need job generation).
First and foremost agriculture needs to be protected. Please refer to related article on rediff about food self-sufficiency myths being spread by politicians. http://in.rediff.com/money/2007/mar/27poor.htm second, if farmers' lands are going to be acquired, they are loosing out their permanent source of income. Their compensation has to be long-term and adequate. In most parts of our country, the farmers are not organized, most of them having very small pieces of land. And this goes against them. Being unorganized, industrialists thug them and acquire lands at cheap rates. What's the point in govt doing the same?
RE:SEZ and agriculture have to coexist
by ABC XYZ on Mar 29, 2007 10:21 PM Permalink
Mr. SSCD,
India is not US and hence similar policies do not work. You have to according to the situation. Nobody is snatching land, it's being converted to Industrial area for greater good and the owners are being compensated for that. We need to move out of agriculture gradually. Nobody is going to convert entire garicultural field overnight. If we don't indutrialize now, we'll stay where we are.
RE:SEZ and agriculture have to coexist
by SSCD on Mar 30, 2007 12:01 PM Permalink
Yes, you are right, we've even lesser amount of land per person as compared to US. And hence we've to allocate it more judiciously.
You can't give away fertile land to industrialization. There is plenty of barren land which can be given to industries.
As for the compensation, govt has to side the land-owners as they are less organized (and hence a weaker party with a risk of being bullied) as compared to the industrial behemoths.
CPM have put forward many arguments in support of NANDIGRAM MESS,but We know COMMUNISTS TALK IRRELEVANT SINCE THEY TOOK BIRTH.NOTHING TALLIES IN THEIR ACTIONS EXCEPT RETAINING POWER BY SOME MEANS WHATEVER CRUEL IT MAYBE! THIS THEORY FAILED IN EUROPE HERE TOO ITS TIME OF FAILURE!
Well written article Mr. Shenoy. The ability of a State to grab land from its owners should be removed countrywide. In AP, the reddy government has grabbed land starting from the CM himself and every ministers son or relative also being involved in grabbing land so that they can sell it to Corporates at huge rates. This is an example of state sponsored loot. Simply put why cant the industries buy directly from the land owners themselves ? And the less said about the communists, the better. They have tied themselves in sheer knots by their captive decadent governance in that state for decades. They are defeatists. We can find fault with BJP on various issues but not their NATIONALISM. Without NATIONALISM the ideologies of no party will work.
RE:BHASHKAR CHATTO AND HIS PAL UTTAMKUMAR ARE KNOWN MAOISTS
by biz Narayan on Mar 29, 2007 10:15 AM Permalink
ABC... Bhaskar is not Maoist. He says Maoists are being used by CPIM/Congress and all the idiots. Thats is correct. All of these support maoists.
Bhaskar has to say that maoists are chinese and canadian paid terrorists, the great Deepankara Bhatacarya is a dalal of canadians. Licking white skin... or yellow skin if that is what available is perfected by comrade Deepankara Bhatacharya.
The rediff wouldn;t write much about these criminals( though it had one article on maoist blind faith in dwarf joker Mao), there are some seckularists in its editorial board.
RE:RE:BHASHKAR CHATTO AND HIS PAL UTTAMKUMAR ARE KNOWN MAOISTS
by ABC XYZ on Mar 29, 2007 10:07 PM Permalink
Are you paid by Bhaskar Chatto? Or are you Bhaskar Chatto in disguise? Why would CPM go join hands with Maoists when they are bombarding their homes? Are you insane? If anybody is using Maoists, it's Mamata B. You have no idea what you're saying. Bhaskar Chatto & Uttamkumar are known Maoists and lot of people in the forum knows about that. He makes nonsense statements as we should go back to agriculture, and then rants he is a BJP supporter. The guy is a MAOIST. They have been trying to put blame on Buddhadeb when it's they who provoked the villagers and put used feamle shields in the first place.
RE:BHASHKAR CHATTO AND HIS PAL UTTAMKUMAR ARE KNOWN MAOISTS
by hello on Mar 29, 2007 10:26 AM Permalink
To make us accept your views, you simply blame Mao, Maoists & some chinese leaders Still it looked like you are one among them!!!
RE:BHASHKAR CHATTO AND HIS PAL UTTAMKUMAR ARE KNOWN MAOISTS
by hello on Mar 29, 2007 10:05 AM Permalink
I agreed!!! Bhaskar Chattopadhyay & UttamKumar are worst parasites than any one else I ever see in these postings. They support totally different people in different forum to disturb the development!!! I called them parasites, because, they don't directly aganist any comments. In one post, Bhaskar Chattopadhyay told that there is no fertile land available. But next when I pointed that, he said without any shame, industry is good totally reversed his points. When I pointed that BJP takes seat in WB, it will take long time, then this bloody told that Let us postpond the plan!!!
If you don't know what is parasites: It will suck your blood w/o knowing you. These kind of people should be kicked by everybody!!! Though it will be little difficult to distinguish these kind of people, but prudent knowledge we easily identify!!! Thank you and good night!!!
RE:BHASHKAR CHATTO AND HIS PAL UTTAMKUMAR ARE KNOWN MAOISTS
by hello on Mar 29, 2007 10:10 AM Permalink
Also, one more thing, it might or might not happen: This link may either be removed by REDIFF or This will be put at the bottom by some long comments by some readers, but I don't know. Since I told, they may not do that also!!! So, don't take anything for granted & identify culprits from their messages, if you are repeated reader you can easily identify these culprits like UttamKumar & Bhaskar Chattopadhyay Let the Parasites go to hell!!!
RE:BHASHKAR CHATTO AND HIS PAL UTTAMKUMAR ARE KNOWN MAOISTS
by hello on Mar 29, 2007 10:13 AM Permalink
I am not paid by any organization, I am doing on my own interest, so, I cannot be online for ever It is not my (hello) professional business like ISI or some other country's appointed people like Bhaskar Chattopadhyay & UttamKumar or Silly, Neo, Arvind and few others!!!
RE:If you want to build house in many West Bengal cities, you have to buy Cement, Bricks, Iron rods , sand from CPIM cadres.
by biz Narayan on Mar 29, 2007 10:19 AM Permalink
This comment sounds perfectly alright.. why would these cadres of CPIM controll as much ?
The trade unions do that, as in Haldia all over if leftists are in power. There may be 5 naoughts in rediff editorial board who would have justified it has poverty/equality... but it was really terrible to find that left trade unions wouldn;t allow people in dire need of money to work when their union becomes strong. Sheela Bhat's pet sociologists hasn't said anything about this phenomena yet .
RE:If you want to build house in many West Bengal cities, you have to buy Cement, Bricks, Iron rods , sand from CPIM cadres.
by Uttamkumar on Mar 29, 2007 11:12 AM Permalink
Probably sheela bhat is dating with such guy.
Armed CPM killed democracy, basic right of the people, and BDO, SDO, District Magistrate, Police are all run what armed CPM cadres and their leaders say. So there is a total loss of administrative structure in the hand of armed CPM and its cadres. That's their moto to re-elect every time.
fully aggree with the article but govt shall facilitate such deals, with stringent rules and regulations, to prevent parties from adopting bad practices. Farmers politically not united are vulnerable to manipulations.
RE:okay to let Industrialists deal directly with farmers...
by Arvind on Mar 29, 2007 08:30 AM Permalink
Its the same as WB in Andhra pradesh too, Near Hyderabad, The Govt is trying to grab land and give it to builders for constructing houses. I don't understand their logic, they are grabbing land from middle class, build houses and again sell it to middle class. I think congress govt in AP is the worst govt in the country
RE:RE:okay to let Industrialists deal directly with farmers...
by ABC XYZ on Mar 29, 2007 09:03 AM Permalink
Arvind,
When was the last time you saw Hyderabad being in the forefront of India? I was in Hyderabad in 1996 and I look it now. There's a big difference. That's how capitalism works. Socialicsm cannot promote growth as we can see what's going on in Europe. You cannot satisfy everyone. So much of construction in Hyderabad has generated in several jobs. Also, with multinationals setting up shops,both blue collar and white collar jobs are growing. Middle Class has more money than we ever had. This growth will have ripple effect which cannot be fathomed in one night. It takes time pal but will be much faster than evils of socialism.
