Yes.. too many Indians are socialists or communists sympethizers. They need to be kept out from the US.
I can't believe the number of desis who fight to come here. They won't go to China or Russia. But they beat the doors to come to the US and then rail against the US and how bad the US is.
So I suggest we test these blokes for socialists tendencies and keep them out.
RE:All Indian students should be tested for ''socialists views''
by on Mar 26, 2007 11:03 PM Permalink
Hey Manny, Get your facts right first you half baked mud head.India is a democartic country which imbibed the best of capitalist and socialist values,it more of capitalist now with liberalisation and stuff...and remember you will hardly come across any Indian talking ill of the US.We have the brains and you guys have the money,we came there and work harder than you guys and contibute more to your economy than american citizens do.And remember you yourseld occupied the home of Red Indians,you have no right to say that American soil is rightflly yours.
RE:All Indian students should be tested for ''socialists views''
by on Mar 26, 2007 11:01 PM Permalink
Hey Manny, Get your facts right first you half baked mud head.India is a democartic country which imbibed the best of capitalist and socialist values,it more of capitalist now with liberalisation and stuff...and remember you will hardly come across any Indian talking ill of the US.We have the brains and you guys have the money,we came there and work harder than you guys and contibute more to your economy than american citizens do.
RE:All Indian students should be tested for ''socialists views''
by M. A. Waheed on Mar 26, 2007 11:27 PM Permalink
This website is browsed internationally, when they read such vulgar language, there is no doubt make sure that "YOU ARE INDIAN" since only indians can talk like this. Shame on you
RE:All Indian students should be tested for ''socialists views''
by rax raja on Mar 26, 2007 10:56 PM Permalink
The ones who go to Russia get killed by skinheads. Yes you are right about testing the teeming hordes who queue up at the consulates for a visa for their commie tendencies and keeping such types out. They create enough trouble in India...
RE:All Indian students should be tested for ''socialists views''
by Manny on Mar 26, 2007 11:37 PM Permalink
Exactly..
Three are lots of good Indias who are not ingrates. The have a health respect towards capitalism and America that offers them an opportunty to excel in whatever they want to do. The very reason the many Indians who come here do extremly well proves the US provides for an envrioment for indians to be sucessful.
Good people have a sense of decency and respect.
The ingrates, and illmannered individuals who have not had a decent upbrining and commies and socialists need not apply. Get stuffed.
Encouraging Indians to take up education WILL BRING BIG REVOLUTION FOR GOOD for both US & India.
Indians from various background going to US for education will surely get to learn new things in life especially DISCIPLINE, OBEDIENCE, SYSTEM and CIVIC MANNERS and in return contribute new ideas, creativity, various approach to problems to US economy making it more progressive. In the long run india can expect to find these experienced return to Indis in few years much wiser and richer.
BTW US is an land of immigrants.
I strongly feel that every country should encourage immigration, cities with most immigrants have the best, strongest and dynamic economy eg:- mumbai, US too was built by immigrants.
For those talking ill about US, if not for US providing you guys jobs (mostly IT) you would be stuck working for the govt for Rs 5000 per month.It's a million times better to work in US than to sit in a stinky Indian govt or pvt sector crummy job.
RE:Fact
by yakkala viswanadh on Mar 27, 2007 07:52 AM Permalink
Hello VP, One of my friend has misused my Rediff acct. and made harsh comments in this forum. He misused MY name for his personal fun.Please don't take his comments serious. Sorry from my side if they hurt you.
RE:Fact
by yakkala viswanadh on Mar 26, 2007 10:02 PM Permalink
You can't teach us. Go and beg them for dollars. The IT people working for India are far better than people like you. At least they are serving for their own country. I don't find any reason not to give away their Indian citizenship for those who won't return back India and serve here.
RE:Fact
by Sealord Impex Pvt Ltd on Mar 26, 2007 10:20 PM Permalink
I SERVED ABROAD...I WAS HAVING MONEY, JOB AND EVERYTHING I WANTED...BUT ONE THING I DID NOT GET...THAT IS PEACE OF MIND. I THOUGHT IT IS BETTER TO RETURN TO INDIA RATHER THAN AN UNKNOWN TERRITORY. ALL TRUE INDIANS (REPEAT TRUE INDIANS) WILL COME BACK TO INDIA FOR A SIMPLE REASON I.E. FOR WANT OF PEACE OF MIND...
I KNOE ONE INDIAN WHO SERVER IN SWITZERLAND...GOT MARRIED TO A SWITZERLAND FEMALE AND MIGRATED TO CANADA...HAVING TWO DAUGHTERS...NOW FATHER WANTS TO COME BACK TO INDIA...MOTHER WANTS TO GO BACK TO SWITZERLAND...AND THEIR DAUGHTERS WANT TO BE IN CANADA...ATLAST CHILDREN WON THE BATTLE...AND THEY ARE LIVING IN CANADA... SO ALL INDIANS WHATEVER MAY BE YOUR VISIT..STUDY, JOB, OR ANYTHING... BEFORE YOU ENTANGLE IN SUCH MOVE (MARRIAGE OR LOVE) PLEASE REMEMBER THIS STORY... I WISH YOU ALL GOOD LUCK...
RE:Fact
by Vinod Kumar Nair on Mar 26, 2007 11:02 PM Permalink
What swamy has written is fact I do agree - My view point is u can work or settle down anywhere in the world its up to u and your choice - but do not forget the roots - I mean if u marry an non indian then for future its a big problem - u forget yr roots your parents - and if u want to return back u cant - its gone for every. U cant get peace of mind anywhere in the world except India which I have personally experinced.
RE:Fact
by Jagdish on Mar 26, 2007 10:42 PM Permalink
DUDE teri hingleesh dekh kar lagta nahi ki tu kabhi abroad gaya hai, Ha ha ha ha Madraasi swamy:)
RE:Fact
by yakkala viswanadh on Mar 26, 2007 10:28 PM Permalink
Thanks swamy for sharing your views. I hope these will help for those who are going crazy to settle there.
RE:Fact
by rax raja on Mar 26, 2007 10:34 PM Permalink
Yakkala, just to make myself clear. People who want to settle in the US do so. People who want to stay in India do so too. I am sure everyone has their reasons for doing what they do. Life goes on and everyone finds a place to be happy in. But it doesnt make sense in putting someone down for their choices. For some settling down in the US is good, while for others India works best. To each his/her own...
RE:RE:Fact
by yakkala viswanadh on Mar 27, 2007 12:21 AM Permalink
You haven't understood what I wrote. I can make more indecent comments than you do.US ki chamcha. You are guilty about what you did, that's why you are making these comments. Shut up. I AM NOT AN US OPPOSER, but an Indian supporter. Understood that?? F**kin ASSh**e.
RE:Fact
by vi si on Mar 27, 2007 12:08 AM Permalink
Dude, The servant who works one hour a day in four houses is also making Rs 20,000/ a month and looks like you are still in 1900's ...Fresh graduates from the engg college are making 1000 Dollars per month ...You guys are afraid that you will not compete with indian youth if you go back to India ...You forget the fact that the same stinky indian education system is allowing you to make your living ..and please for god sake don't blame your own country instead try to give some thing back////
RE:RE:RE:Fact
by Golu Gayani on Mar 27, 2007 12:52 AM Permalink
Really a servant is making RS 20000. Well than where is the affordanility of your countrymen. Why is every one crying out lound for not being able to feed the family. We are not blaming but presenting the fact., You may call it blame. But in order to be successful in INdia you need a family member or Power from lolitics to pull you up. While in US it is purely your hard work which is recognized.
RE:Fact
by rax raja on Mar 26, 2007 09:58 PM Permalink
Nobody has any problems with the US dude. We are talking about the crummy sales pitch made by some stupid people out to recruit students. Read the article.
Only US will be benifited the cost of a graduate In india is 11217$ while cost of a graduate in USA is 81324$ considering current financial statistics and it can be staggring for Engineering, IIT,and MBBS PHDetc. Secondly if a educated individual goes to USA or EU income of Indian government through Income tax approximatly 56230$ is lost which is a source to build educational and other infrastructure of any nation. So stop dreaming just ask them to put there current cources online (No outdated study) and give it free access than we Should think of colobrating in educational field
RE:the cost cutting method''inside economics''
by shailendra mistry on Mar 26, 2007 10:24 PM Permalink
to critic ask you dady or mama how much money he/she has wasted on you for day zero to 21 years of your age and you will reach to these figures if you are not able to get to these figure i am sure you are very weak in Basic maths.
I still believe education in Indian is better. If u have ur basics right u can go anywhere in the world. Don't come to this stupid country USA.There is no good thing about this country.India will have their days back. Our education is much better than USA where even at the age of 40 people don't know "Basic Algebra". The problem in India is not every1 is given the opportunity to study. Go to Australia or UK. Don't go to USA.
RE:Vande Mataram
by Maximus Decimus Meridius on Mar 26, 2007 10:37 PM Permalink
Well, I dont know what you are talking about, saying people at the age of 40 in US dont know algebra. That might be true, but almost 50% of India's population dont know how to read. Why Australia and UK? Aussies have a serious racism problem. UK has a bit of it, and the US has the least of all. In urban and semi-urban US, you will probably never face racism.
Well, the US is pretty liberal about people leaving. In fact, they dont even stamp your passport when you leave, as they believe they dont have the right to stop anyone from leaving the country. So, if you dont like the US, pack your bags and leave for INdia, UK or Aus. Oh, but you like it in the US, dont you?
RE:Vande Mataram
by Golu Gayani on Mar 27, 2007 12:46 AM Permalink
Well Said Maximus. I could not have said better than that. Why just Algebra, how about English. Where does Indian stands in English as compared to US. Also communication, management and pressure handling. All these morons who are barking against US are either not allowed in US or are kicked out of US due to a total failures. Every one has every right to choose a place to live, so huys shut up and do not talk rubbish about others. Another and most important. In India a Doctor can rarely be an Engineer, but only in US SKY is the limit. You can fly as high as you wnat, all you need is the enery and speed. So all those singing the glory of India or Indian education go back to India and stand in the railway line to buy railway ticket or ration line to buy gas to cook food. Please lEAVE and LEAVE right now.
RE:Vande Mataram
by on Mar 27, 2007 12:10 AM Permalink
THERE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW BASIC ALGEBRA AT THE AGE OF 40...... HERE 65% POPULATION DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO WRITE THEIR NAME EVEN WHEN THEY ARE 50..
WE NEED TO LEARN TO ACCEPT THE FACTS INSTEAD OF MAKING AND/OR DEFENDING SOME STUPID THINGS..
RE:Vande Mataram
by amit chauhan on Mar 27, 2007 01:37 AM Permalink
Indian people who do not know how to write are illiterate , never studied in their life. But americans they studied and they wanted everything tht can be obtained easily in their life.
good effort vishit...all i can say is even after 60 yrs if this country's people cant rectify their governments then i dont see any real reason not to jump the bandwagon and grab the elusive green card. n i have cast my vote in and every single election to try and make a difference and difference i have made yes by voting for more and more murderers and rapists to our parliament. i wonder how many people convicted of rape and murder will be a part of the senate in the US. yes they too are corrupt but they do grab the money after they give the public its due. and well they do honor their scientists and educators which in no way kids your age do that here in MY country. when they go to work they dont have to bother about their travel tickets, gas, atta, dal, chawal. you know the small things in life. they have better things and important ones to think about. they do have people running guns and drugs but then its upto them to find their way out of it. they dont reserve seats for the blacks or hispanics or other ethnic minorities they treat them on par. yes they are racists but at the end of the day if you have the guts to stand out of the croud then you do get your due.there isnt any place for an also-ran in that society.for getting a ration card a black robably doesnt have to bribe anyone. to get a cat out of the chimney a policeman even helps a black woman. i wonder if you were shot in your place how many guys from your police station would come to really help you.they also gained independence from the british and they too had independent states which were brought under one single banner but they are people who for one take pride in their nation and they dont ape anyone outside their country. they are people whose lives run by the clock and are always on time. not a second late for a meeting or an appointment. give the devil his due man it is a great country without doubt and going there to study shouldnt raise too much of a dust. else people from our top echelons of the science community wouldnt have made it their home. i dont think anyone is being greedy when it comes to getting educated its only a matter of escaping an oppressive society. think of your education being scuttled by mr arjun singh and his likes after you spend all your money in coaching centres and come out a pauper even after clearing your IIT and what a scar it leaves on your psyche. its to be experienced to be believed my friend take it from me.what india are you talking about? you are DEFINITELY off-track maybe you havent been on the track at all.
RE:reply to msg by Vishit...
by yakkala viswanadh on Mar 27, 2007 07:55 AM Permalink
Hello ashish, One of my friend has misused my Rediff acct. and made harsh comments in this forum. He misused MY name for his personal fun.Please don't take his comments serious. Sorry from my side if they hurt you.
You study or work anywhere you want,but don't forget your obligation & love for your motherland.Support it monetarily, professionally & transfer the latest technology from the developed countries to the developing & underpriveleged countries at affordable price.
Take two years to finish a stupid degree.Spend 2 years to pay off the loan and wait for 7 years to get a greencard.Get struck up with a stupid company and wait unless your less educated counterpart gora become your boss.And they want more people to come.For what? to make more people stand in queue for GC??
RE:Crap
by rax raja on Mar 26, 2007 09:23 PM Permalink
Yes these ba*stards want more slaves. Obedient, talented, but not too troublesome, who wont question the status quo. That is they the H1b and greencard rules. They basically want talented Indians (and others) to prop up their economy while they dont give them what is due to them. That is why this drama about opening their doors more. Less and less talented Indians are going there now, so they want to 'open the door'. You are absolutely right blue wrox, if they had any real intent, they would make it easier to get a green card/citizenship for people who toil hard and contribute to the economy, social services etc. and in the end dont even have their future covered.
RE:Crap
by rax raja on Mar 26, 2007 09:48 PM Permalink
Nope it is factually correct dude. Less IIT Btechs are going to the US than ever before. Go check. Oh wait, you probably never went to the IIT as a btech, so how would not you know. Many do go still, but it is much lesser than it used to be. It is mostly incompetent H1b who go to the US now, and most of them are so useless, they wouldnt land good jobs in India too. No wonder the US treats these people like slaves...
RE:Crap
by blue wrox on Mar 26, 2007 11:48 PM Permalink
Who is talking about citizenship and who wants that.Yaar jab thak idhar hoon.paisa aur izzat milna chaahiye na.I am not frustrated,I frankly dont care.But its stupid that you have to wait for 7 years to get a GC.GC does not mean citizensxhip.For me it means that you are free to go to any company rather than worry about ur visa.thats all
RE:RE:Crap
by blue wrox on Mar 26, 2007 09:22 PM Permalink
Itna bhi kujli nahi hai.GC isliye chaahiye thaaki company jab chaaho change kar sake bus.Kyon zindagi ka watt lagane ka?
RE:Crap
by Satyanarayana Maddi on Mar 26, 2007 09:21 PM Permalink
what is your problem as long as they are not bothering you. They are strugling and taking pains.
Get study from abroad and mix with cultures!!! Is that ok? Go to China, Russia, US, Europe, Australia, Germany and UK, Britian and some other country I missed sorry about that. Get global knowledge and different cultures!!!
RE:Get study from abroad and mix with cultures!!!
by hello on Mar 26, 2007 09:17 PM Permalink
I forgot Canada!!! Please include that too!!! Please don't think that I am not writing here w/ adamant character, I am writing humbly and comments are welcome!!!
