WHY people arguing about BENGAL... its a useless state anyways...give it to china in exchange for TIBET...lol and give BIHAR to pkistan in exchange for SINDH and punjab
RE:who cares
by hiral joshi on Mar 25, 2007 04:40 PM Permalink
Not a single inch of India is useless and dont ever joke to give it to somebody because anti-national communists and congress may take it seriously.
RE:who cares
by surajit paul on Nov 18, 2007 05:13 PM Permalink
WB is a useless state? [:O] may I know from which state you are?? you people still used to burn Dalits , then also your state is usefull. you people never produced a Nobel laureate or won an Oscar, even don't produce a single world class scientist, then also your state is usefull :O only what your state do?? religious riots, make money by cheating people, farmer had to suicide since he has nothing to eat or has debt to Mahjan, then also your state is usefull :O what a great state you have.. huh
Since 400 people are missing, most probably they are murdered and thrown into the river and bay-of-bengal, do Prakash Karat and his CPM dare to report where those 400 bodies are? SInce you and CPM have tagged people there were maoists, terrorists, naxalites, then you should come clean on that saying that you and your party encountered and killed 400 terrorists among farmers. Then tell us where is those 400 bodies? Those 400 people are neither in the camp of CPM or opposition.
This is a question to Sheela Bhatt. PLease have an answer of it. Moreover, Prakash karat said, they (police and CPM cadres) attacked hindu majority villages and also raped girls/woman and but avoided similar action in muslim majority villages in Nandigram to prevent communal violence.
Can sheela Bhatt get the answer from CPM whether this is the right way to keep communal harmony.
RE:Sheela Bhatt, try to get the following answer
by hello on Mar 25, 2007 09:03 AM Permalink
There were lot of people killed by Tank in China, that any body is asking??? Uttamkumar, uttappam kumar comes, these begger comes in disguise names & posting & increase the figure every day!!! Previously 14, now 400, tomorrow 1000, they can bring their own numbers, forgetting millions killed outside world for non-genuine reasons!!!
RE:Sheela Bhatt, try to get the following answer
by hello on Mar 25, 2007 09:06 AM Permalink
When you violate police by guns, explosives etc. what police will do to control the mob!!! law and order will takes in charge to dispose the mass by telling lathi charge first, then tear gas & then few un-avoidable things will happen, for that you comes with your own figures & asking where is the moon in the day & where is the sun in the night kind of questions!!!
RE:Sheela Bhatt, try to get the following answer
by hello on Mar 25, 2007 09:23 AM Permalink
Ask your mother country about the mass killings before exaggrate the figures here. Uttamkumar, uttappam kumar
RE:Sheela Bhatt, try to get the following answer
by Tamil Arasan on Mar 27, 2007 03:57 AM Permalink
I like that!!!Utham kumar alias Uthappam kumar!!This guy defenitly has a sense of humor !!!
RE:[object]
by hello on Mar 25, 2007 09:25 AM Permalink
It is the duty of police, whether commie, congress or any one, when attack police by explosives & grandes & gun!!! First lathi charge, then tear gas & then some un-avoidable measure, that will happen in any where where mob do with other influences try to disturb the law & order!!!
RE:Sheela Bhatt, try to get the following answer
by hello on Mar 25, 2007 09:35 AM Permalink
No matter what ever happen, no body is allowed to hold explosive!!!
RE:[object]
by hello on Mar 25, 2007 09:38 AM Permalink
See who are all involved in the name of farmers !!! I am a very big hater of commie & CPI (M) too. But for that when some one comes acting like Liking or hating commie is like "Mulla shave his bread to do attack". I don't like that in this situation
RE:Sheela Bhatt, try to get the following answer
by Uttamkumar on Mar 25, 2007 09:53 AM Permalink
Are you sure, you are "I am a very big hater of commie & CPI (M) too".
Then definitely you would not argue about the police act at Nandigram.
Come on man, there were no terrorists, there were all farmers and they voted CPM last 32 years. how come within few month they became terrorist since they oppose to give up their fertile land and only home/shelter ?
Just have a clean thought and argue. that's acceptable.
because of barbaric police act on common people in the name of naxals in 1970s promished to the throw the bloody Govt then. At Nandigram police act was barbaric and there should not be a point to defend them. Now you are defending this barbaric act, but most of the police officer and West Bengal Govt are too defensive of what happened.
RE:Sheela Bhatt, try to get the following answer
by hello on Mar 25, 2007 10:36 AM Permalink
What is your point here??? Development is good or bad??? How one side of road is fertile & other side of the road is barren (waste) land?
RE:[object]
by hello on Mar 25, 2007 10:39 AM Permalink
My point is: Accepted communism for 32 years & hating communism when they try to do some thing for development is bad, that is what my point!!! Also, eventhough commie successfully implement this project, there will be election, we can tell our rights in election for making us backward for 32 years!!!
RE:Sheela Bhatt, try to get the following answer
by hello on Mar 25, 2007 10:43 AM Permalink
See tamil nadu & other states. Most every 5 years or 10 yrs they elect different people, even though there were lot of industries setup by the outgoing chief minister!!!
RE:Sheela Bhatt, try to get the following answer
by Uttamkumar on Mar 25, 2007 11:11 AM Permalink
Point is CPM is suddenly mad of developing Industry without any proper planing and thinking of infrastructure. Definitely development is necessary. As you stated, one side of the road fertile, other side is waste. Nobody argue or protest them to set up Industry in that waste land. But CPM is using full armed force (of its cadres and police too) to acquire fertile land also from farmers. But where is the proper rehabilitation of those many thousands farmers who are loosing their lands, home and how will they live. There is no planing at all.
Now if CPM is dead from INDIA and West Bengal, then industrialization will be stopped? Answer is NO. People including opposition begged them to stop terror trade union, set up indusrty all the time. But everywhere CPM goons are dealing everything, people do not have any voice. They donot deal political or any opponents politically or logically. They always use armed cadres to finish opponents. Is this democracy under communists?
We donot not need CPM any more for the development. Whoever come to power in place of CPM, process of Industrialization will be going on. West Bengal and INDIA need to get rid of REDs (communists) for better INDIA and its GREEN. That's for sure.
RE:Sheela Bhatt, try to get the following answer
by hello on Mar 25, 2007 11:38 AM Permalink
I also don't allow keeping farmers in WB with existing bullock carts & sweat in hot temperature !!! We should given them better technology & infrastructure to produce more in the same land and get profitable by adopting various schemes like eliminating middle man etc.
RE:Sheela Bhatt, try to get the following answer
by hello on Mar 25, 2007 11:34 AM Permalink
I also don't like single party any more adopted in WB any more. Let us get ride of commies by creating a strong second party!!! But delaying development by telling barren land as fertile land and arguing commie to delay the development techinques used by some I don't like that is what my point!!!
RE:Sheela Bhatt, try to get the following answer
by hello on Mar 25, 2007 11:46 AM Permalink
We also should not allow ignorance & in-tolerance blind folded our thoughts!!!
RE:Sheela Bhatt, try to get the following answer
by Uttamkumar on Mar 25, 2007 12:09 PM Permalink
Yes, you raised a very good and valid poits here.
"We should given them better technology & infrastructure to produce more in the same land and get profitable by adopting various schemes like eliminating middle man etc"
RE:Sheela Bhatt, try to get the following answer
by Uttamkumar on Mar 25, 2007 12:12 PM Permalink
For the industrialization CPM is not clean. They are saying "trade secrete" can not be made public. Do you agree their view ? They are taking public land, giving that to the company and what are the deal with the company they are not exposing at all ? What is clear here is CPM party got lot of offer (I mean donation) from those company to their party fund. That's why they are avoiding it saing as "trade secrete". If industrialization and development is for the people, no one (or no Govt) can say it as "trade secrete". They should be clear and transparent.
Another point is for a particular project why they do not call open TENDER so that they can get the best deal and maximum opportunity from and for a company. They just select their own company and are not transparent at all. 3rd. For the quality of land, the West Bengal Govt and CPMs (i.e. Prakash Karat) statement is completely false and that even contradicts their own specific land department's report. Most of the land in Bengal is fertile. CPM is not interested to set up industry in the place where lot of barren lands available. Moreover there lot of unused land and land of closed (old) industry still left unsed. CPM is not interested to setup industry into those lands either. They just need to set up what their own selected company need in a very dense populated area and that are is very very fertile.
If there is a delay of industrialization for about 6 months to 1 year between the change of two Govt if CPM loose, that is the best blessing for Bengal and INDIA too. Because opposition people also want development and industrialization.
If CPM goes from Bengal means people got some voice and breathe to kick them out. Right now democracy is dead and society is fully controlled by armed cadres. BDO, SDO, District Magistrate, Police are useless and everything is controlled by CPM cadres and their elected members.
Commies, Congress, Mamta -- First think about development!!!
by hello on Mar 24, 2007 10:38 PM Permalink | Hide replies
I don't like commies, but in case of development minded Buddev, I support allen's view!!! That is the difference between Indian thinking about commies & chinese thinking about commies in India!!! Let the development go ahead under what ever leadership!!! We slowly vote aganist them who ever not needed if really found true, let the development goes !!! Some of allen's comments asking why one side of road is barren & another side treated as fertile & given trouble with explosives by the intolerant groups by telling farmers at the front!!! I want communism needs to be totally removed from India. Let us WB people give alternative rules like Kerala & slowly remove the commies from Indian soil!!! But everything has time. Think about what you have in Hand right now!!!
RE:Budhu babu
by Jason on Mar 25, 2007 01:16 PM Permalink
U ARE THE SMARTEST perons i came across... BENGALISH ARE TURLY SELFISH I NOTICED THAT.... bengal is uselese state
RE:I want allen to contribute more in this forum!!!
by Seraphic Deviltry on Mar 24, 2007 10:28 PM Permalink
hello hello bolke..merey aagey pichhey dol ker..ho s s s.. what khhujli master?
RE:I want allen to contribute more in this forum!!!
by hello on Mar 24, 2007 10:31 PM Permalink
You said about giving Padma Shri prize by APJ as given to dead people in another forum. Comes to speak for the country???
Maulana Madani speaks about economic freedom quoting names of Maulana Husain Ahmad Madani, Mahatma Gandhi, Khudiram Bose and other stalwarts. The backdrop of those perspectives of yesteryears were different. Today's realities and policy priorities are quite different.
1. ARAYNAKARAN: Agri land expansion in India has come mostly at the expense of forests. 90% of Indian forests have been destroyed. Agri lands have to be HALVED and not expanded.
2. SHAHARIKARAN: Development entails migrating people from low productivity toil to ones fetching higher value realisation. This alone can provide economic freedom.
3. ADHUNIKARAN: Changes in community and social values in tune with Constitutional ideals and scientific temper such that diverse communities can converge to live amicably in urban setting.
This national transformation of societal structure is highly disruptive change. It is best served in political aspects by democratic law and in economic aspects by free market economy, for which even the leftists parties have now reconciled.
There is consensus on market mechanism for economic freedom and political differences emanate from addressing diverse social and community needs.
The social aspects of disruptive national transformation have found no reconcilation and political processes have become violence prone.
CPI(M) Plans Sustained Movement Against Rajasthan Govt
Hannan Mollah
THE Rajasthan state unit of the CPI(M) has decided to maintain the pressure on the anti-farmer state government through sustained movement in order to ensure that water is made available to farmers in the areas as per the agreement reached earlier between the farmers and the state government.
The state secretariat of the Party met in Jaipur on March 11 and reviewed in detail the recent phase of farmers%u2019 movement led by the Party in the state for water. Although after the massive and militant rally held by farmers in Jaipur %u2013 which was addressed by Party general secretary Prakash Karat %u2013 the state government released adequate water to the Phase I area of Indira Gandhi Nahar Project, the secretariat felt that the BJP government cannot be relied upon and it may betray the farmers once again. With news already in circulation that after March 31 only drinking water will be provided in Nahar area and irrigation water will be suspended, the secretariat decided to fight against such conspiracy. The movement will be restarted in a new form. An intensive campaign will be conducted in all villages of the Nahar area in the three districts of Ganganagar, Hanumangarh and Bikaner. The effigy of the autocratic chief minister would be burnt on April 14, 2007 in these places.
Besides, to highlight the anti-democratic actions of the state government which created many obstacles for farmers entering Jaipur for the February 22 rally, it has been decided that the Party and mass organization activists will hold black-flag demonstrations whenever any BJP minister visits any village.
As part of the decision taken by the CITU, AIKS and AIAWU central leadership to observe April 18 as all India Worker-Peasant Demands Day, preparations would be made in Rajasthan to make it a success. A joint convention of these mass organisations would be held in Jaipur on March 24 to work out the details.
The Party state secretariat also decided to conduct a vigorous campaign among tribals on their rights. A tribal Chetna Rath (Awareness Rath) will tour Udaipur, Dungarpur and other tribal-dominated districts from May 5 to 19. Dozens of meetings would be addressed by leaders in these districts explaining the importance of the recently enacted Tribal Forest Rights Act as also the Rural Employment Guarantee Scheme so that the tribal people can avail of the benefits of those schemes. A big rally of tribals would be held in Udaipur on May 20, 2007.
With the massive rallies and meetings of 22nd February and release of most of the leaders, this phase of movement ended.
As has been reported regularly in these columns, the farmers of the Phase 1 area of Indira Gandhi Nahar Project comprising Sriganganagar, Hanumangarh and Bikaner districts have been waging struggles for the last three consecutive years. Under the leadership of the Kisan Mazdoor Vyapari Sangharsh Samity, a massive struggle was launched in these areas in 2004. Thousands of people participated in the most militant mass struggle in the recent history of Rajasthan. Massive attacks by the police on agitating farmers and agricultural workers, imposition of curfew, arrest and detention of hundreds of the people, registration of false cases, using National Security Act against leaders of the agitation etc were the forms of repression used by the BJP state government. The fascistic character of the government was exposed. But the determined and unrelenting struggle of the farmers forced the government to accept their demand for irrigation water and it reached an agreement with the kisan leaders in the Ajmer Jail in 2004 and water was released accordingly.
However, the next year the state government discontinued the water supply leading to severe drought in the region. Thousands of acres of land remained uncultivable, forcing the farmers to once again come onto the streets. The Sangarsh Samity led a massive struggle in 2005 against the government demanding that it honour the agreement of 2004. Although the movement faced brutal repression by the police, the resoluteness of the farmers once again forced the BJP government to retreat and release water for irrigation. But the government proved to be a cheater once again and stopped release of adequate water from Indira Gandhi Nahar. It has become a practice for this government to release water when there is a movement and stop after the withdrawal of the movement. It blatantly violated the agreement it reached with farmers. So once again the farmers were forced to adopt the struggle path in October 2006 demanding release of water. Thousands of farmers joined the movement for the third time and it continued for five months. Again the people saw barbaric attacks, a most brutal one on October 16, and many more times after that. Thousands of people braved the police atrocities and strengthened the struggle. Hundreds were arrested once again and AIKS leader Hetram Behiwal was brutally beaten and kept in jail for five months. But the Party, Kisan Sabha and other mass organisations broadened the movement and brought other parties and organisations into the struggle. The AIKS took out a Kishan Chetna Rath, which covered more than one thousand villages in eight districts. It exposed the barbaric character of the BJP government which killed 17 farmers and agricultural workers, including women in the last three years. Hundred of people, including old and women, were injured and detained. Some of them are still in jail. The state High Court has declared Hetram%u2019s detention as illegal. Such was the state government%u2019s fascistic nature that it almost declared war on the farmers and tried its utmost to prevent them from attending the rally organised by the Party and Kisan Sabha in Jaipur on February 22, 2007. But thousands of farmers started their march three days before %u2013%u2013 in tractors, jeeps, buses and trains. Thousands of police and para-military forces were deployed to prevent the farmers from reaching Jaipur. Vehicles were stopped before 40 to 50 km and farmers were forced out. Three stadiums in Jaipur were converted into temporary jails to lodge the rallyists. But undaunted by such terror, farmers proceeded and wherever they were stopped, they conducted dharnas at those places. And many of them sneaked into the city. Party and Kisan leaders addressed meetings at different places in the city as well as outside the city. Prakash Karat, general secretary of CPI(M) addressed the farmers%u2019 in two places, as the central rally could not be held in the proposed ground in Jaipur.
The people in general were angry with such undemocratic behaviour of the BJP government. They found a timid and coward government which was afraid of its own people. However this high-handedness of the government could not dampen the spirit of the farmers who resolved to continue their fight for their rights with greater enthusiasm.
The CPI(M) and AIKS decided to hold protest meetings throughout the state on March 7 against this anti-democratic and repressive attitude of the state government. In spite of short preparation, thousands of people came into streets on the day in different tehsils in the districts. Besides the matter was raised forcefully in Rajasthan state assembly by CPI(M) MLA Amra Ram during the governors address. The assembly proceedings were disrupted and Amra Ram along with three other MLAs were suspended from the house. The government was forced to concede the demand of the struggling farmers and release the water to the areas. The people of the state on the whole and farmers in particular are happy and enthusiastic with the outcome of the struggle. The government also declared that there would not be any hike in electricity tariff till 2008. The demands of adequate water and cheap electricity were fulfilled in this continuous movement for the last three years.
