If we want to know abt ur self, then u have know abt ur country histry - as per Mao (China). So, before comments any thing abt naxal should know their histry, like rising, continuty, and growthness. If any body talk abt independent country then he should know the feature of it. People will work 4 nation and nation provide them food, cloth, shelter, education & treatment, for every one. Everybody should work 4 nation and nation will do it. But most of state in our country r backwarded till now, so development, rights, rules, r not equal. So, some people work 4 it and trying to educate backwarded people and growing their sense, but at this stage state attack them with full force, and every people had right to self-defence, and this is happening in such state like Chattisgarh. If we see back lot of e.g. r all over the world i.e. Rasia, Chaina, Vietnam, Combodia, etc. those people were said this was communist real communist movement, the same person r saying it is not a way, when heppning to Inida.
naxals are hardcore communitss and supported by netas from congress and communists mulla s and padris. these corroupt power hungry netas from congress and communists and mullas and padris who encouges and support poor trible ppl to take arms and indugle them in voilence act should be punished. In AP congress party took the help of moists and naxals to gain power win election agaisnt CB naido cong commies led upa is anti ppl and anti national
..of those 55 policemen is the fact that this board has some naive idiots thronging it with their immature replies and hence, given me the reason to deduce their intellectual inadequacy.
It's true that had it been an ISI backed organization, the hue and cry would've reached new heights. But no one who's running his/her mouth here has any proof to backup their words - whether it was a pak sponsored attack or not.
What i'd also like to point out here is that Maoists are in no way linked to ISI since they have issues and problems and self-defined causes which they term as excuses for a shooting spree like this.
Don't come and preach here who's done who till you're either a cop or an Army man who's actually known what happens when terrorists strike.Imbeciles!
Well the movement which started as people support is now no more a RISING........ is A terrorisms need to be handle with hard hand. I m not clear what lesson we have learnt from KASHMIR...... and those Naxal are directly or indirectly guided, supported and funded by these terrorist outfits.......
Still i would say there is time to act, deploy forces to fight rather the police force...and this need the people back support also...so the role of governance is also crucial in fighting Naxal.
WE ALWAYS BOAST ABOUT THE STRENGTH OF OUR ARMED FORCES.WE HAVE FIGHTER PLANES AND CHOPPERS. ARE THE ONLY FOR DISPLAY? WAS THERE A COMMUNICATION FAILURE? COULD WE HAVE SENT TROOPS TO THEIR RESCUE? FORGET ABOUT HEAVY ARMOUR IF THERE WAS NOT MUCH TIME THEN A SINGLE MIG-21 SORTIE COULD HAVE DENTED THE RESOLVE OF MAOISTS.WAS THE AIR FORCE SLEEPING? OR CAN WE SAY THE POLICE MEN WERE NOT SO GOOD TO RECEIVE ANY AIR SUPPORT.OR IS IT THAT WE CAN AFFORD THE DEATH OF THE POLICE MEN AT THE HAND OF MAOISTS?
RE:HOW CAN WE BE COWED DOWN LIKE THIS....
by ajay rawat on Mar 16, 2007 08:04 PM Permalink
sir,
its easy to be disillusioned with what we have and what we dont.....we have a great armed forces...we have great civillian control over the mlitary like nowhere in the world....and we also have zero political will..our politician dont have the balls for tough decision...the last great leader to have calle the shots was Indira gandhi....
yes what yu have said about the communication is true....but believe me it is a failure of the police .. and the para military..
even f we asume(quite rightly) that the armed forces picked the commint.. still it cannot be acted upon for the follwing reasons...
1.there is no ops clearance for the operation in civillian area unles cleared by the govt/ the district collector calls in the army therby handing over the admin control.....so even if yu have a massacre happening .. the armed forces cannot act against thier own countrymen where the law does not cover them......if yu had someone launchg a strike...he would be shunted around...by the powres that be...the case of Adm bhagwati a grim reminder of the stiffling civillian conrol..
2.the intelligence gathered from this commint would not be cleared as actionable intelligence for any air strike as failure to be precise would lead to greater collateral damage...please note that there were students living area.in there...
3. the most important quetion is to ask what the hell wa the police forces of the adjoining area doing...the shooting carried out till 2 hrs...if no police help did come, what the DC was doing by not asking for military assistance...
3. in 2 hrs the Crisis management team could have landed the NSG in the area........assuming that they would have 1/2 hrs notice...prelimainary int would indicate that the naxals only carried small arms and thereby no great preparation would be reqd...NSG guys are equipped with latest night vision kits.... 4. last ly even if we failed in the efforts to save the police sjawans...why spl forces were not deployed with night devices and thermal kits to comb the jungle...
lots of question to ask my friend..suggest yu use the RTI on the role of the CMG/steps taken by the NSA....it is suffuce to say that he country was sleeping for two hours when the events were unfolding...... this must act as a wake up call to get the Crisis management group to shape up...the way i see terrorists planning future strikes in this country must be analysisng this inccident carefully and must be buyoant about thier future....
It is very very difficult to think and imagine the stage of the families of that police persons. Whatever it may be the government should call the naxals and must discuss with them about their demands. There are vajpayees, sonias, communists but none of them is thinking about the discussion with terrors. government is thinking about the authority of the terrors for talks, but, no need to think about it, because lot of persons were died due to this terrorist in INDIA. Govt. should call them and talk with them, sort out the problems.
either it may be naxals, or al-???s or some one else but the people who killed are definitely not responsible for that terrorist's problem.
so, kindly understand the position of the common people and don't kill the people unnecessarily.
As per definition in wiki: In Maoist thought, "political power comes from the barrel of the gun" (one of Mao's quotes), and the peasantry can be mobilized to undertake a "people's war" of armed struggle Basically Maoist so called struggle of downtrodden against upper class is to grab more share of resources for poors and downtrodden.
Hence none of Maoist attacks are influenced by religion. Major difference between terrorism by Muslim Jehadis and Maoist is that Muslims Jehadis practise terrorism as a part of Islam teachings (to kill kafir, darul islam .. blah). Hence they are more potential threat to society.
While Maoist struggle is for power. In case they will be provided right guidance, They will leave terrorism.
But Muslim fundamentalist have to leave Islam to stop terrorism.
RE:Difference between Muslim fanatics and Maoist
by Nadeem Khan on Mar 16, 2007 07:32 AM Permalink
I thinks its a flawed analogy. Jehadist attacks (in india) do have a purpose too, they don't blindly attack for religion. In kashmir, its to gain land and power over the land, The attacks on India have been not to propagate their ideology rather to separate the religious divide between the common hindu-muslim population and create and overall atmosphere of micommunication, instability among religious communities. What my core point is that, you cannot justify one type of terrorism and mark it as 'Manageable with a solution' and regard the other one as completely vile. Terrorism is terrorism, PERIOD. People have died, human life is lost! Provided the right guidance, ANYONE can be stopped from terrorism, but providing guidance is a loose term. Muslim fundamentalists do not follow Islam to spread terrorism, they USE islam as a scapegoat to propagate their own social, power-hungry needs. Separating them from the religion won't change their mentality, a fundamentalist will always think extreme no matter what religion he/she follows. Its very easy to come up with excuses and differentiation when the reality is that terror does not know religion, its ALL a game of power.
RE:RE:Difference between Muslim fanatics and Maoist
by Nadeem Khan on Mar 16, 2007 07:39 AM Permalink
And its interesting how you felt the need to differentiate between Maoists and Islamic Fundamentalists. As far as I can see this article doesnt even mention Islamic Terrorism. Its almost like there you are trying to justify every atrocity committed by a non-islamic group. Blood is blood man!
RE:RE:Difference between Muslim fanatics and Maoist
by Manoj Naik on Mar 16, 2007 07:39 AM Permalink
I think Terrorism has no religion...Look at the samjauta train attack...They killed their on sisters and brthers...
the recent developements in the north east indian staes clearly indicates that the indian democratic system has failed once again to protect people
be it in nandigar or chattisgar it is the anger of the people which led to mass protest against the government (police force is the first target by these people in their struggle) .........no wonder y people become destructive force against them..... nandigram is one such incident
we need to have a public debate on the change in the indian constituiton itself 'cause it has divded people based on cast religion and haves and have nots...........
Any org which harm to country and people who should be banned:Any political leader or party person who creates problem through communal or disrmination of case,should get death punishment.Any person who is involved in corruption should get death punishment.then only our common leaves peaceful.
