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no option
by anupam shome on Mar 15, 2007 01:49 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Last 3 months I am reading newspapers. I understood some people they are trying to qaos in west bengal. They are not try to develop our state. Our chiefminister always saying, without any discussion no land will be take over. I think his decission absolutely right. Anti social people making create these problem and they are responsible for these death. Governmentis elected by the common people. Not elected by the some anti social people. I'll be happy if it is enquary by CBI.

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RE:no option
by nilmadhab mandal on Mar 15, 2007 02:05 PM  Permalink
thats a nice argument Mr. Shome....see what comes out of your argument...here we go!!
"anti-social people making create these problem and they are responsible for these death"..if anti-social ppl were creating prob...is any police man heart by bomb or gunshot? you dodnt require any anti-social to throw stone..common men can do it..spl if u loose ur only livelihood..!! So, as per your logic..the anti-social ppl killed their own wives and children..!!great!!
I agree..Govt is elected by common ppl ...so Govt can kill common ppl?

as per the fake assurance of CM on media (not by Govt process)..i wrote somewhere else in this discussion..

before blaming anti-social blame your CPM govt..for your English!! You know what I am talking of!!

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RE:RE:no option
by on Mar 15, 2007 02:44 PM  Permalink
Mr. Mandal try to get prooer information first then make comment on any public forum. Those criminals raped, killed several women, CPM activists. They killed one security officer also may be one month ago. Police and CPM activists can't enter into that area for last three months. Where were your so called humanitarian voice at that time ? Hypocracy is the only "Pehechan" of the perole like you. They were people mislead by the some political parties. They faced the firing from police because they threw bombs and fired from pipegun towards police and they deserved it.

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RE:RE:RE:no option
by nilmadhab mandal on Mar 15, 2007 04:36 PM  Permalink
wish u get well soon..!!

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RE:RE:RE:RE:no option
by anupam shome on Mar 15, 2007 06:11 PM  Permalink
Mr. Nilmadhab mandal please read the 2-3 newspapers. Then you'll know how many police injured.

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RE:RE:RE:no option
by nilesh on Mar 15, 2007 04:36 PM  Permalink
If they have thrown bombs and fired shot, how many policeman injured/killed.

the answer is none. hope u got the point jocker

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RE:RE:RE:no option
by kumar ray on Mar 15, 2007 04:34 PM  Permalink
Do you read only aajkal and Ganashakti, watch only Akash Bangla? You stooge! You are supporting police firing at the innocent mob. Its wose than British Raj. You people never acted like human. Forget party color. Its human blood. But I doubt whether you have that.

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RE:RE:RE:no option
by on Mar 15, 2007 03:08 PM  Permalink
Dear sir, it is true that the agitators had behaved violently. What would you have done if you are kicked out of your office one day and all your properties confiscated?

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RE:RE:no option
by debanjan ghosal on Mar 15, 2007 02:37 PM  Permalink
Come-on Nil. Show me one area of W.B. where Mamatadi's innocent ppl not going to creat any problem while taking lands?

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RE:RE:RE:no option
by on Mar 15, 2007 03:05 PM  Permalink
dear debanjan, these people are neither mamata's nor buddha's. they are those hapless people who are afraid of losing their meagre source of earning.you would have stopped making such staements if you had been one of them. for god's sake stop politicising the issue and at least for once we should come together to condemn the act.

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RE:no option
by Uttamkumar Samanta on Mar 15, 2007 02:12 PM  Permalink
communists, particularly Buddhadeb Bhattachary is the biggest liar. he says one thing, does opposit.

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RE:RE:no option
by on Mar 15, 2007 02:58 PM  Permalink
This Laxman Seth should be hanged. He is considering Midnapore as his fiefdom. He is anti national and a goon protected by the Govt.

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RE:no option
by Vinay Gupta on Mar 15, 2007 02:35 PM  Permalink
Dear Shome, Communist give the same argument for the murder/loot/ rape of oppenents when they are in power. They talk of democracy and all good words till they are not elected and once elected they cannot be thrown out.

Reasons are obvious. They donot allow democracy to function. If Communists are in power in Bengal for so long and that to inspite bad governance on all fronts then it self speaks of the way they have crused the pponents.

No govt. how so ever good, can survive in democracy for so long as Commubnists have survived. This itself speaks for the goonda raj of communists.

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only talking
by Shubho Sengupta on Mar 15, 2007 01:41 PM  Permalink 

In this state we only talk big but do not discuss or trust anyone.It seems only the politicians in this country are fit to talk,take decesions and impose.discussions or one to one are anathema to them.

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why Police action
by Sandip Raha on Mar 15, 2007 01:39 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

It's a shame day for Bengal . Govt should asnwer to the people . It was completely a provocative move from administration . Shame ..., Budha . Shame ...., Budha

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RE:why Police action
by sdo bolpur on Mar 15, 2007 02:23 PM  Permalink
Dear i have some question.
1) Do you want jangal raj in west bengal?
2) What happening in Nandigram during past three month?
3) What is the motive to prevent policement to enter Nandigram?
4) Whether there are any need for armed forces and Police forces, Courts, law and order?
5) Whether law and order situation at Nandigram "OK" during last days?

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RE:RE:why Police action
by nilmadhab mandal on Mar 15, 2007 03:32 PM  Permalink
Dear I have the answers for your 'some question'!!:
1) No we dont want "jangal raj !!". That's why we are protesting against police fire..
2) Nothing happened in Nandigram in past three months..except..CPM local MP falsely trying to evict ppl from their own land..except poor ppl who voted for CPM earlier..protested as their land is forcibly acquired..except..police fired on the mob..reminding us jungle raj!
3) The motive is to stop CPM and govt. to stop acquiring the land..in the disguise of police..!
4) absolute no need of any of them..before the police and party created mahem there..!
5) very much Ok..if you exclude occasion of police firing yesterday and occasion of CPM cadres firing..a few weeks back!

Hope u got your answers...plz feel free for further queries!!

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HC responds to State atrocities
by Sudip ghosh on Mar 15, 2007 01:36 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

It's good that Calcutta High Court has responded to the state atrocities perpetuated in Nandigram area and called in CBI to probe.

We witnessed on TV a big contingent of armed policemen marching towards a gathering of innocent rural people, women and children among them standing in the front. Shortly came into the focus a few bloodstained bodies, dead or half-dead, being carried away by a few others. The police are of this free country and the people are also of the same very free country. A country that, we say, has the biggest democracy on earth! The place is Nandigram, a village in the rural Bengal, where a pro-people, communism-preaching party leads the Government for thirty long years.

A few recent incidents made me thought a lot. But I am not wise enough to find an answer yet to the question: what public interest is served in horrifying public by implementing or threatening immediate acquisition of lands that they peacefully plough or reside in? Perhaps I will remain ever-stupid and will never understand how a state can acquire so much of cropping land so hurriedly and so securely, as it happened in Singur, snatching out from so many poor men and women for handing over to so big an industrial house like Tata, that is so private an enterprise. I get puzzled when I see that lands for projects like the Metro Railway lines or highways or bridges or flyovers take years and even decades to take over by the state, for the state and sometimes from the state. I cannot understand how a state preaches magical uplift of poor population simply by inviting Tatas or Salims to places where the Government failed to provide the people with safe drinking water, food grain, habitable habitat and electricity in six long decades after independence.

It%u2019s true that the State of West Bengal has ushered into an era of no-discussion, non-consensus governance by a select few, advised by another select few where popular opinions hardly matter in issues of immense state importance. If one looks from Singur to Nandigram, from IT to real estate, from film festival to cricket, from book fair to environment, it%u2019s the same rigidity, same intransigence and same audacity that prevail.

removing a popular Government is no good. Future Governments can even be worse. But still, containing atrocities by the State to the people of the State is a necessity, in whatever ways possible or feasible.



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RE:HC responds to State atrocities
by allen on Mar 15, 2007 01:42 PM  Permalink
Is Nandigram a seperate nation ????...whr police cannot patrol !!!!.... For kind information to all ..the police were not able to enter Nandigram from last 30 days... Whatz dis ?? U cannot hv ur own Independent nation status dere ...!!! I am sure the marginal farmers in India meet the same fate... malnourishment...disease ... under heavy debt and finally suicide.... look at Maharastra , Andhra . The industrial development is the only panacea to all ills. MAMATA and some irresposible rascals are pushing Bengal to become another Bihar...with no employment oppurtunity and plenty of cheap .. exploitable labour for other states , if not already there. I feel sad for West Bengal... such a self destruction is seldom seen.
Moreover ... how this INNOCENT farmers ( ????? ) exchange bullets and bombs ... is land of Nandigram is so fertile..??? grows bombs too...


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RE:RE:HC responds to State atrocities
by Kaushik Roy on Mar 15, 2007 02:11 PM  Permalink
THis is righ;y said : "how this INNOCENT farmers ( ????? ) exchange bullets and bombs ... is land of Nandigram is so fertile..??? grows bombs too... "
ABsolutely right you are...


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CBI Should judge the Circumstances
by Sudipta Bhowal on Mar 15, 2007 01:33 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

CBI Should judge the Circumstances and give report accordingly. They should not be biased by anything.

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RE:CBI Should judge the Circumstances
by Balaji Mathaiyan on Mar 15, 2007 01:58 PM  Permalink
Even though the CBI may produce any report what is the solution to the farmers. Here all parties are making a scene . but none will give solution other than Naxals. They have the Basic Idea of Industrialization in socialist way. But here these guys are build indian economy on farmers Blood.
As an IT employeee I shame on myself to work for MNCs and living on blood of farmers.



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pro CPM and Pro budhha comments here should have the same magnamity
by Bob Seth on Mar 15, 2007 01:32 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

all those guys who make pro CPM and Pro budhha comments here should have the same magnamity when thier own ancestral land, ancestral home ancestral villages and employmnet oppurtunities are siezed by the corrupt govt and a few ruppes thrust on you. In case you protest the state polcie is there to bash you up. Where is the rascal Dasgupta of CPI who went to haryana when some labourers were lathi charged by the police.Now all the Communist jokers are in the hiding, all of them have dual characters.

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RE:pro CPM and Pro budhha comments here should have the same magnamity
by arindam chanda on Mar 15, 2007 01:40 PM  Permalink
Mr. Seth,
It is so sad that you use certain languages without even analysing a situation. Do you think a person like Mamta is there to protect the farmers? If so why nothign is happening in Singur, why something like this happened in Nandigram, where Buddhadev has announced no kind of industrialisation will be done. It is just a fight to show the party power. And it is unfortunate that a party like Trinumal exist which is just a group of illiterate thieves gone out off Congree.

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RE:RE:pro CPM and Pro budhha comments here should have the same magnamity
by Uttamkumar Samanta on Mar 15, 2007 01:52 PM  Permalink
Arindam Chanda
is real slave of communists.
I am from Nandigram and now in USA. I know much better than Buddha or Mamata about Nandigram.
Mamata has nothing to do there.
Villagers and farmers are scared of loosing their home/shelter, land etc. So, protest is from them only. If I would have been there I also joined in the protest, may be I could get a bullet.

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RE:RE:RE:pro CPM and Pro budhha comments here should have the same magnamity
by Kaushik Roy on Mar 15, 2007 02:17 PM  Permalink
If u really feel distressed about the people of nandigram, what kind of a help hav u provide so far. You personally stayted in bengal studied in bengal.... and now went out of bengal(nandigram) to think about u and only about u. earn dollars and lead a beautiful life. Why can't you think about the people of West Bengal who could be getting a good employment if industrilisation happens. its very easy to make comments sitting outside.

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RE:RE:RE:pro CPM and Pro budhha comments here should have the same magnamity
by Biplab Paul on Mar 15, 2007 02:16 PM  Permalink
Mr. Chanda, really you know much better than Mamata & Buddha,that's why you are in USA. Lets come and serve for Nandigram/ West Bengal / India and then write such comments.

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RE:RE:RE:RE:pro CPM and Pro budhha comments here should have the same magnamity
by Bengal Lover on Mar 15, 2007 02:57 PM  Permalink
EVEN BIMAN BOSE GOES TO USA TO COLLECT FUNDS DURING BISWA BENGALI SAMMELAN. SO WHATS THE HARM OF BEING IN USA. YOU COULD NOT GO THERE?? DID NOT GET A CHANCE?

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RE:RE:RE:pro CPM and Pro budhha comments here should have the same magnamity
by allen on Mar 15, 2007 02:14 PM  Permalink
Uttamkumar Samanta....another fake stupid ...shedding croc tears

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RE:RE:RE:RE:pro CPM and Pro budhha comments here should have the same magnamity
by Bengal Lover on Mar 15, 2007 02:55 PM  Permalink
ALEN YOU HAVE NOT READ PROPERLY THAT UTTAM IS FROM NANDIGRAM. YOU ARE NOT. YOU ARE THE FAKE CPM GOON.

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RE:RE:pro CPM and Pro budhha comments here should have the same magnamity
by Arup Palit on Mar 15, 2007 02:17 PM  Permalink
CPI(M)

NOW OPI(M): OPPURTUNIST PARTY OF INDIA(MONEY)

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RE:pro CPM and Pro budhha comments here should have the same magnamity
by Ashok Gupta on Mar 15, 2007 01:42 PM  Permalink
Progress is required and there is always an emotional attachment to the land. Progress cannot happen at the cost of another. If that land is required the Govt.must be transparent and notify that they are willing to pay "x" price and those interested may register. This way no problem would have been there. The State Govt. is employing bullying tactics even legislating vesting of leased lands purchased legally and leased legally and even after the High Court has struck it down still collecting rents since last 20 years by getting an order from Supreme Court. What about those leased lands - there is none to raise their voices here as we cannot take to the streets but must take recourse to the legal system. Those leased lands now vested are being let out to rich rich oil corporations without any offer of any compensation or whatever. This is West Bengal.
Take by force or take by legislation but take it any cost even lives.


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Most barbaric face of Communists
by Uttamkumar Samanta on Mar 15, 2007 01:30 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies


Sunil Gangopadhay is the most barbaric face of bengal and Buddhdeb Bhattacharya is his driver.

Because of Sunil G, Taslima Nasrin is not getting permitted to live in Bengal where there are millions of illegal bangladeshis getting legal ration card, voter identity card and citizenship bacause communists secure their vote bank.



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RE:Most barbaric face of Communists
by gour pattnayak on Mar 15, 2007 01:40 PM  Permalink
who is this sunil gongopadhaya? Pl elaborate.

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RE:RE:Most barbaric face of Communists
by Uttamkumar Samanta on Mar 15, 2007 01:57 PM  Permalink
He is a story writer in Bengal.
Because of him Communists banned Taslima's books in Bengal just to appease a muslim fundamental groups in Bengal.

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Nandigram
by ARUN GUPTA on Mar 15, 2007 01:30 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

WB needs industrialisation. There is no doubt about this. However, why can not the Left Govt find out uncultivable land in Kharagpur area, Bankura, Purila and other Districts? Why take furtile land?
What happened in Nandigram is brutal. Let there be an election under President Rule within Three months from now and let us see the result.

If other left front partners do not want to get wiped out they should immediately leave Left Front. But will they do it? After all being in the Govt means lots of money for the party and individual. Marx or God save the State.

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RE:Nandigram
by Balaji Mathaiyan on Mar 15, 2007 02:04 PM  Permalink
Here all vote begging communists and left front(CPI, CPM,For.Block) all are not real communists. a communist must be in the farmers side not in Owner. Here our country is recolonized by all MNcs. Before 200 years British now all MNCs from all countiries.

So Unite under Marxist-Leninist groups not under Vote Beggers like BJP,CPI,CPM,Trinamool,Comgress, etc.,


There is no way except naxalism to save our country.

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Poor Approach
by ijd on Mar 15, 2007 01:25 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Government is elected by the common people in the country. So Govt should always bear this in mind for any of their decisions. All these protests indicate that the Govt's poor approach in taking the informations to the common.

No only naxalites the Govenment should also bear in mind that violence is not the solution. Change your approach every thing will change

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RE:Poor Approach
by Balaji Mathaiyan on Mar 15, 2007 02:09 PM  Permalink
Hi naxalism is the right way. Here there is no response for Peaceful protest by Mamta. Even though Mamta comes to Power she will do same thing because Not only West Bangal, all over India is under the threat of Re-Colonization.
All Indians must Unite under the LeaderShip of marxist-leninist groups to regain our country's Glory.
Otherwise Surely all Indian will become Slaves to Us and WTO very quickly.


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