RE:CHENY UNDER ESTIMATING THE GREAT POWERS
by hello on Mar 05, 2007 10:49 PM Permalink
We want to be more friendly with Russia, America, Japan, Germany, Britan, China and all other countries.
RE:beware mush
by Maximus Decimus Meridius on Mar 05, 2007 02:22 AM Permalink
Yeah... quail actually... Cheney might shoot him in the face for mistaking him to be a quail.
Surmises!! Speculations!!surprises!! that is the world order today. There is no openness even in the policies of so called democratic countries. US with its misplaced ideals is tearing apart world peace helped by fast growing islamic extremism on the other side.Where we go from here??? They will be all driven to underground bunkers like Nazis in the past and run the world.. After all none of these world leaders can a face a broad day light with a clear conviction. God- in any name you call-save this wonderful planet.
Here are the counter points for what is mentioned in the article
"There are serious misgivings in Europe that the secretive Anglo-American agenda is to trick the Euro-Atlantic community in a 'new Cold War' with Russia." -->The if the European countries already have misgivings, do you think they will allow the US to hijack it further. European public is today turning more and more against US policies and their politicians will have to listen.
"China too has begun expressing disquiet lately about the geopolitics of the Afghan war -- the US global strategy of 'taking control of the Eurasian continent and proceeding to take the helm of the entire globe' by establishing military presence on an 'unstable arc of instability from the Caucasus, Central and South Asia down to the Korean peninsula,' to quote the People's Daily." --> In an unstable region, foreign military presence inherently has to maintain an defensive posture. They cannot launch attacks on China, Iran from Afghanistan, without significant public support which does not exist and is never likely to develop. "As former Pakistani finance minister and World Bank Vice-President Shahid Javed Burki wrote recently, the spectre haunting the Pakistani economy is that out of sheer war fatigue, American troops may pack their bags and take leave of the Hindu Kush and head home." --> Not true, Pakistan received massive aid in the 90's even without the Afghan war. Then as later, Pakistan will continue to receive aid as a 'underdeveloped nation'. "Musharraf is already allowing US intelligence to stage covert operations against Iran from Pakistan's Baluchistan province. He is doing all he can in rallying the Sunni Muslim world." -->Covert operations are one thing, invading from that border is quite another since it effectively becomes an Pakistani invasion permanantly enstranging good Pak-Iran relationships. "Musharraf may have a greater role to play if the security of Saudi Arabia gets threatened in any armed conflagration in the Persian Gulf region, or if Iran gets seriously destabilised." -->Who the hell is going to threaten Saudi Arabia? Is it conceivable that Shia militants will threaten Saudi Arabia passing through the Sunni provinces like Anbar? Saudi Arabia is paying the Iraqi sunni's too much to keep the Shia militants bogged down. "From the US geo-strategic point of view, the Afghan war has managed to get an unwilling NATO to come and slouch in a region that is the soft underbelly of Russia and China (and India)." --> Why should the US care to go the unstable Afghanistan to threaten Russia when it has much more stable willing allies in the former soviet republics who are far closer to Russia geographically. As for China, why should the US attack the deserted north west China when it could attack the industrial heart of china in the south using Korea, Taiwan and Japan? "If tomorrow NATO becomes part of the US missile defence system, its occupation of the Afghan high plateau is a huge advantage -- overlooking four of the world's eight nuclear powers." --> The 10 anti-ballastic missile-missiles in the US can at best hit a couple of "dumb" ICBM's. Worse, even in ideal condition tests, it failed many times. An ABM defence "shield" remains as much a myth as Star wars was except in the tiny brain of Bush.
RE:Flawed article
by hello on Mar 03, 2007 06:12 AM Permalink
No matter what A,B,C,D,E... says, USA is the super power & they have superior technological edge. Their Anti-Missile System is very effective if implemented properly. Some secret of Anti-Ballastic Missile stragegy is not on how many missiles it tracked down. But for millitary secrecy point of view, I don't want to mention it here.
RE:Flawed article
by Tarun Bhardwaj on Mar 03, 2007 04:19 AM Permalink
I kind of agree. I believe its a fancy trail of the author taking wings. There are so many other points which can be brought about to prove this article's innaccuracy.
Cheney met with Pervez because he had no more friends in US to use as tagets for his shooting practice. hahahaha...Musharraf was dumb enough to accept this invitation...No regrets for any of Cheney's actions..... Goodluck Cheney....
RE:Is Pervez the next target???
by Abdul Hameed on Mar 14, 2007 10:34 PM Permalink
America cannot do the misadventure of attacking a militarily strong country as Pakistan. Even much smaller Iraq has beaten the Americans. Now they cannot think of attacking Pakistan, which is the leader of Muslim countries and Muslims of the world
RE:Is Pervez the next target???
by hello on Mar 03, 2007 02:33 AM Permalink
Playing w/ Cheney carefully, some times need to be admitted in hospital OR some times never get up again.
This is an interesting perspective of the visit. This could indeed to prelude to opening to another front. Having permanent presence in Pakistan and Afghanistan seems to be prime motivator. This not only keeps other great powers off-balance but brings them closer to energy rich central Asian countries.
Why confront Islamism? Because if we don't it will continue to get more extreme. This is not Islamophobia, as many Muslims and their apologists protest. A phobia is a baseless irrational fear. Detestation of Islamism, the violent form of Islam, is based on irrefutable facts and it is not only rational, it is ethically imperative.
It is a virtue to take action to oppose the hateful, a vice to ignore it. It is a virtue to hate tyranny, misogyny, discriminations of all sorts, oppression, and all manners of violations of the legitimate rights of individual and peoples. Islamism is a mutation of Islam into a terrible menace. It is religious fascism, a destroyer of liberty and much of what free people cherish. Therefore, it must be confronted.
Islamism, Islamofascism, radical Islam and political Islam, are different terms for essentially the same thing: a virulent, hateful, and violent system of beliefs and practices. Yet, one and all are progeny of Islam itself.
It is a systemic problem of Islam that inevitably gives rise to Islamism. The three scriptures of Islam, the Quran, Islam's holy book; the Hadith, sayings of Muhammad as recorded by his contemporaries; and the Sunnah, the life examples of Muhammad himself, together form the body of Islamic beliefs. They provide an array of frequently confusing, multiple-meaning and even outright contradictory dogma that enable anyone to pick and choose certain teachings of Islam and justify anything they do on the basis of the scripture.
The Quran enjoys a sanctified standing, since Muslims believe it is written by Allah himself. Allah handed down the Quran to Archangel Gabriel, chapter by chapter, to deliver to Muhammad over the course of some 22 years. Muhammad could neither read nor write. So Gabriel had to whisper the chapters to him and Muhammad in turn would reveal them to a literate person who happened to be around to write them down on anything he could find. To Muslims, every word of the Quran is a literal perfect immutable eternal word of Allah himself. Therefore, no man or divine is ever to revise, much less dispute, the Quran.
The hodgepodge of Islamic scripture is the medium for generating all kinds of mutations, some of which such as Islamism are extremely dangerous. A segment of any society, at any time, is staffed by people who feel disaffected, alienated, and disenfranchised. It is from the ranks of this population that Islamists heavily recruit.
Islamism's rallying cry is also of particular attraction to the young since it is rabidly anti-establishment. The young lack a major stake in society but brim with action-inclined vitality. They are among the most willing recruits to anti-establishment causes. Older leaders frequently take advantage of the young's proclivity to act and enlist them as foot-soldiers in their cause. The Hitler's youth, the Soviet Union's young Communists, and the Islamic Republic of Iran's Basij (young Islamic storm troopers) are some examples of the young's enlistment by tyrannical systems.
Furthermore, there is excitement in action, any action. The greater the risk, the greater is the excitement. Tis feature is highly attractive to a significant segment of the population. That's why it is said that war is exciting, while peace is boring. The validation of this dictum is seen daily, for instance, in numberless arenas where battles rage between combatants, be they cocks, dogs, or human. Throngs of spectators pay by time and money to participate vicariously in the socially-approved brutalities.
In any physical contest, the more violent side usually prevails. The Islamists use ruthless force to eliminate the opposition or to intimidate them to join its ranks.
Islamism is rapidly advancing on two fronts. In every Islamic country, it is cowing the non-radicals while recruiting more and more radicals into its own ranks. In non-Muslim lands, Islamism,flush with Petrodollars, is establishing itself as a formidable force by enlisting the disaffected and attracting the delusional liberals with its promises. For the faithful, there is the added incentive of Allah's heaven and its irresistible attractions.
There are those who claim that the majority of Muslims in the world are moderate and non-violent. It may be so. Yet, the silence of this majority is deafening, although, they do speak up from time-to-time by, for instance, claiming that the 9/11 slaughter was the work of the Jews, even when Osama himself proudly admits the dastardly act.
This very same Muslim majority pours into the streets of the West on a moment's notice to protest against the slightest perceived affront to its sanctities, but they almost march to condemn the violent acts of the Islamists or speak up against them. This sort of behavior by the majority makes it complicit with the Islamists.
In spite of all this, Islam's apologists and lobbyists want us to accept the notion that the present Islamic radicalism is an aberration that, given time, will dissipate as have all radical movements of the past. These folk fail to tell us about the radical movements that inflicted horrors on humanity before they expired. Here are a few instances of the bloody acts of radicalism from Wikipedia:
Japan 1910-45. Imperial Japanese killed 25,000,000 Chinese and enslaved millions of Koreans. Soviet Union 1918-89. Communists killed 20,000,000 of their own citizens. Germany 1940-45. Nazis killed 11,000,000 Jews, Romas, homosexuals, Slavs, the mentally ill and Communists. China 1950-80. Communists killed 65,000,000 fellow Chinese. Bangladesh 1971. Pakistan Muslims killed 1,500,000 Hindus and fellow Muslims. Cambodia 1975-79. Communist Cambodians killed 1,700,000 Cambodians. Afghanistan 1979-89. Soviet Communists killed unspecified number of Afghans. Sudan 1983-2007. Arab/Muslims killed over 2,000,000 Africans. Iraq's socio-fascist Baathist government slaughtered several hundred thousand Kurds and Shiites during Saddam Hussein's reign of terror. And let us not forget the genocidal mullahs presently ruling Iran. These Islamofascists executed, without the least due process, tens of thousands of the opposition in order to consolidate their Islamist tyranny. The mullahs' present project is the subjugation of the region and, down the road, the world itself.
Islamism threatens to set a new record for brutality, contrary to the contention that there is no reason to worry about it. Jihadist Wahabism's tentacles are reaching out from its cradle in Saudi Arabia and the Persian Gulf Arab Emirates. The Petrodollar flush Sunni zealots are liberally financing mosques, madrasas (Islamic indoctrination schools), Islamic centers at universities, front organizations and lobbyists to promote the Wahabi virulent Islamism in every part of the world.
Murderous Shiism, led by Iran's racing to arm itself with the ultimate weapon, is busily doing whatever it can to ensnare the world into Islam's nation, the Ummah. The purported peaceful Muslim majorities are nowhere to be seen. They are either complicit with the Islamists or on the retreat from Southeast Asia to the Americas, from Australia, to Europe.
Islamism is a pincers, with the world in its jaws between the end-of-the-world Shiism and the jihadist Sunnis. The two jaws aim to crush the life of all non-believers. It is imperative that people who value liberty rise up and act to defeat Islamism. Here are some specific suggestions:
Any mosque, Islamic center or front organization that condones or promotes hate or violence must be shut down. Islamic studies centers at universities must be scrutinized to guard against mercenary academes who deceptively preach the gospel of Islamism. Lobbyists and front organizations serving Islamism must be investigated as to their sources of funds. Laws should be enacted to protect all media and individuals against lawsuits, so that they can report the truth without risking ruinous litigations. Imams, mullahs and others who promote Islamic hate doctrine should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Local Muslims should review Islamic literature, including the Quran, and should mark them with an asterisk, disavowing teachings of hate and violence or purge them entirely. It is urgent that we confront Islamism. All free people, Muslim or not, must demand that their governments, at all levels, abandon the practice of political correctness and act to safeguard liberty against the truly deadly assault of Islamism on the rest of the World.
RE:Why confront Islamism?
by kamaal udd on Mar 02, 2007 11:33 PM Permalink
again, the same anti-islamic story of a islamophobic moronn. Nobody wants to know your stupid solutions, there is only one answer to your problem : If you play with fire, you'll burn your hands. SO, don't play with fire and stay happy in your limits.
RE:RE:Why confront Islamism?
by desijohn on Mar 03, 2007 03:54 AM Permalink
Don't show arrogance. Don't mistake tolerance for timidity.
In fact if anything you should be in your limits. Look back on your generations. What were you or your fore fathers? Someone up the lineage was not a muslim. They were FORCED/RAPED/CONVERTED. Truth is bitter. Eat it.
RE:RE:Why confront Islamism?
by Free Radical on Mar 03, 2007 01:13 AM Permalink
So, you are comparing Islamofascism with fire, huh? The right comparison is probably cancer, not fire. Every non-muslim knows that Islamofascism is the cancer of mankind, it's just that they dont say it openly out of political correctness. But we do have to tell you the truth once in a while to humble your arrogant ass. Mankind has not found a complete cure for cancer yet, but something tells me we are close. The end is near my friend, so have fun while you can.
RE:Why confront Islamism?
by Kakh on Mar 03, 2007 09:54 PM Permalink
Hello, How did Budhism spread in East Asia-Massacred by so called timid Hindus they fled for their lives.
Why were sikhs (the protectors of Hindus) massacred by the so called patient Hindus after not so long ago when Indira Gandhi was killed. Stop fooling yourselves.
How did Christianity Spread in the world; they killed all native people.
All religions when mixed with politics played havoc. All religions basically teach good, but its virulent proponents always think themselves superior. When they are in power, they intimidate others
Open your eyes and stop hatred of muslims. Go to Ajmer, Nizamuddin and other places and read the history of these saints.
RE:RE:Why confront Islamism?
by Maximus Decimus Meridius on Mar 05, 2007 02:28 AM Permalink
Buddhism spread by the sword in east Asia? Ashoka sent his sons to various parts for spreading buddhism. Why would hindus force someone to convert to buddhism?
That said, I agree with what you said. Christianity had inquisitions and crusades, hindus had their own version of that more recently and of course Islam as well, continuing today.
Maybe we should hate organized religon instead? ;)
RE:Why confront Islamism?
by Krishnan Hariharan on Mar 03, 2007 01:12 PM Permalink
It is a heart rending article. Lord Krishna proclaimed "For the good, never will there be evil" in the Bhagavad Geetha. Let us cling to good things and abjure evil. India has been protected by the Gods from ages. May the Gods protect the good people of this land and save humanity
