RE:Enemy Vs Hero
by iq on Jun 29, 2007 08:26 PM Permalink
So they are not heros...We only have bad people. We are all enemies of each other. None us can claim that we are Heros. I am ashamed to be a human when we can kill other people
If the Nimitz is so close to the Chennai port they could map the underwater region using their sonars. In the event of a later conflict this will allow their submarines to find underground hiding places and holes and know exactly how to get deep into the port without avoiding our sonars. Chennai port is one of the most important commercial shipping areas. I dont know if I am right or wrong on this but I hope our Navy thought about this. If we think the Americans are not doing the mapping at this moment on their ship then we have to be really stupid. The only question is how will it be put to9 use.
RE:Underwater mapping of coastline
by shripad sathe on Jun 29, 2007 08:11 PM Permalink
mapping the underwater depths has and is always done by the admiralty ! any navy has access to maritime charts that clearly mention all data , so the USS nimitz shall not have to try that out, buying an admiralty chart shall be cheaper !! shripad sathe
RE:Underwater mapping of coastline
by Mikkey Moouse on Jun 29, 2007 08:04 PM Permalink
nonsense, if americans have caacty to do it from space without a personal visit. see civilian technology like google earth, quickbird, ikonos satellites pictures & mapping. us military satellites are 10 times better that civilian ones.
RE:Underwater mapping of coastline
by iq on Jun 29, 2007 07:47 PM Permalink
America has the technology to do the under water mapping from the space. It will be naive to think that they have not done the mapping yet.
RE:Underwater mapping of coastline
by indiman on Jun 29, 2007 07:55 PM Permalink
yeah right, underwater mapping can be done from space. Sattelites cant be used for military mapping. A couple of years ago two chinese fishing ships were caught in the bay of bengal with sonar equipment. The ships were confiscated and the Chinese deliberately tried to deny it was their ship. Are you saying everybody else other than the Americans are stupid to use ships to map the enemy areas. We should have limited all american visits to Goa because thats where all their ships have been going in the past. It is not such a critical Commercial/Military port like Chennai, Cochin, Vizag, Bombay etc. I think next time we are going to let an american ship right into our naval ship building docks in Cochin, Mazagaon,Vizag etc.. Open up everything to the whole world so they can fire a rocket right between our buttocks.
RE:Underwater mapping of coastline
by iq on Jun 29, 2007 08:04 PM Permalink
"Sattelites cant be used for military mapping" that applies for rest of the world but not for the mighty Americans buddy. Rules are made for other by the americans
RE:Underwater mapping of coastline
by Anurag Shrivastava on Jun 29, 2007 11:35 PM Permalink
You don't equate chinese technology with American technology. China is doing great - but still light years behind in weapons and space technology.
Who killed more people in the world? Is it Iran, Iraq, or the mighty USA? It will take a nano second to nuke India if USA thought it is for their best interest. Democracy/Peace is only for the west and the death and destruction for the rest of the world. Wake up buddies
RE:Who killed more people? IRAN or USA?
by iq on Jun 29, 2007 08:14 PM Permalink
Yea right... What about 3 million people killed in Nagasaki, Hirosima? What about people who were killed in Korea? What about people who are killed in Africa (for Bloody Diamonds)? Are you saying the people who were killed in those places were bad people? Perhaps for the Americand but certainly not for Indians
RE:Who killed more people? IRAN or USA?
by Anurag Shrivastava on Jun 29, 2007 11:33 PM Permalink
1) The 200000 japanese who died were enemies who deserved it because the Japanese started the war and did not surrender. 2) The Korean and Vietnam war stalled communist expansion. Communists as you know kill people because they like to kill people - stalin , Mao, pol pot , Ho chi minh , Naxlabari - you name it. These war saved more lives. 3) Blood diamonds is a criminal actvity in which underworld of all nations are involved. Only Americans had the courage to expose their own faults and rectify it.
America is not perfect - it has many faults. But your stupid data only exposes your blindness.
RE:RE:Who killed more people? IRAN or USA?
by Mikkey Moouse on Jun 29, 2007 08:23 PM Permalink
why your bothered about non-indians ? communists (stalin 20 million, mao 30 million dead) and jihad 8-19th century - 250 million dead have killed most people in the world.
RE:Who killed more people? IRAN or USA?
by Mikkey Moouse on Jun 29, 2007 08:23 PM Permalink
why your bothered about non-indians ? communists (stalin 20 million, mao 30 million dead) and jihad 8-19th century - 250 million dead have killed most people in the world.
RE:Who killed more people? IRAN or USA?
by Mikkey Moouse on Jun 29, 2007 08:06 PM Permalink
some pro-pakistani and pro-chinese elements are objecting that alliance with america is not moral because america had attacked germany, japan & iraq, but alliance with pakistan & china is good because pakistan & china have both attacked india....ha ha ha ha !!!
is this not probably the funniest thing you have heard in the past 100 years ? ha ha ha ha....ho ho ho ho......he he he he !!!
The commies should be guillotined.I iraque they were butchered by saddam hussain.Yet in india they made a hero out of saddam and doing hartals and dramas for saddam.China captured a large chunk of india.But communist want chinese ship and companies because they are commies' brothers. Almost all islamic countries with the side of pakistan whenever a conflict occures with Pakistan and India.But israel at that times helped india.Yet these commies want to severe relationship with israel. That commie sitaram yechury said that he is very happy to see nepal lost its status as Hindu country.Will he also become happy for secularization of saudi arabia,rome ,pakistan and bangladesh.he won't do that.Because he is a commie and his sole aim is to wipe out hindus. Commies make hue and cry for secularization and other shits.But where is them when mass extermination of kashmiri pandits went on.These poor pandits live in slum like areas.did any commie go and help them or raise fund for them(How's their vigour in collecting funds for RIOT victims!! of gujarat).
RE:F#ck the commies
by Purohit Shastry on Jun 29, 2007 08:07 PM Permalink
How can the displaced Pandits still live in slum areas. What is the RSs and VHP doing? Were they not created for social work too. they sure have enough funds. So why do they not help the poor pandits but allow them to live like rats?
RE:F#ck the commies
by sangu r on Jun 30, 2007 07:05 AM Permalink
Ok then there also a large number of muslim organization working for muslims.So why the left is adamant in helping them with fund.left can safely think thre are several muslim organization there and they would help muslim. Pandits plight is totally because the so called secularists.
Rather opposing and shivering your body think one thing that such a visit of a powerful Aircraft carrier ship in India subcontinent is creating the hovac, are we truely a superpower or are called to be superpower? Are we ahve any kind of match to the power of USS Nimitz? do we have any kind of planning to have such a match? Think of it What our politics and beureaucracy has given a stand to us ? and they have given us only to think negative. We must say we have same match no need to worry. No comments form Navy cheif and other Security advisors.
anyone with merit will always succeed in america, there is no need to pull strings, pay a bribe, know a minister or have an uncle in an powerful position.
america is top in education (70% world top universities), business (300 largest corporations), science (270 nobel prizes in science), sports (2400 olympic medals)......because MERIT is given the greatest importance.
Panchkula Evening 6.3opm. Friday , 29th June , 2007 Mr. B. Raman is right , there is no sense in objections on the visit of Aircraft Carrier Nimitz around Chennai Docks threatening Indian beach dwellers with Nuclear fallouts etc.if this was likely , they would first kill Naval US personnel on boards of the crafts' men. However, we are willy nilly being drawn into US network of Global battle against Jehadis and Al-qaeda,be it in Afghanistan Iraq or Somalia and else where.As one who knows US double and triple-crossing simple-minded Indian Experts I would not be surprised that we are left exposed to some maverick skud missiles hurled on vulnerable spots in our exposed industrial centres on the west coast,by some of the Jehadis in tow of Al-Qaeda and our anxieties left unaddressed by the American Security System as it is most likely that we being feather brained when it comes to bargain hard with devious US strategists.We face these risks , and yet unawares of them.!..D. Goel
RE:Raman, and Aircraft Carrier's Presence in Chennai...Yes it is Against Jehadis...
by Anurag Shrivastava on Jun 29, 2007 07:10 PM Permalink
Al Qeada is really not interested in India - India is not a very developed country as yet and they realise that Indians have a huge ability to absorb casualties and continue life as usual. India does not get rattled by terrorism the way west is so there is not much to be gained through terrorism in India. It is a law and order problem which has to be handled effectively by police internally and in the borders by the army. Further - there is a 15-20% chance that act of terrorism will end up killing muslims which will alienate them as well. Finally - they also fear that terrorism will result in Modi like retaliation accross India.
RE:Raman, and Aircraft Carrier's Presence in Chennai...Yes it is Against Jehadis...
by iq on Jun 29, 2007 07:37 PM Permalink
Anurag: Very good observation. You are right
For all US supporters , PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE - http://www.idsa.in/publications/stratcomments/AjeyLele191006.htm
especially the paragraph - "Interestingly, in India in the year 1975 a decision was taken by then Prime Minister Indira Gandhi to close down a US sponsored mosquito research project. As a part of the project, a massive release of "Aedes aegypti" mosquitoes (they transmit yellow and dengue fevers) in Sonepat district in Haryana was planned. The aim was to understand mosquito biting habits and a few other details. The then Indian government had taken the decision to scrap this project fearing that the Americans may be interested in testing their biological weapons under the grab of this experiment. ........"
Forget jihadists and communists, the americans equally give a shit to India.
RE:for US followers
by Anurag Shrivastava on Jun 29, 2007 07:06 PM Permalink
No wonder the Lele guy never became anything more than Wing Commander ( Lt Col ) in the Air force...obviously the Airforce has no use for such fools. This agency is headed by our dear friend Pranab Mukherjee - the favourite of left front.
RE:Perhaps, India should send Akbar/Ashoka warships to Atlantic
by bungbumi on Jun 30, 2007 12:40 AM Permalink
"Perhaps, India should send Akbar/Ashoka warships to Atlantic" and then do what ...Mr. iq (Or is it lack of iq!)
RE:RE:Perhaps, India should send Akbar/Ashoka warships to Atlantic
by indiman on Jun 29, 2007 07:48 PM Permalink
why, are you going to go and clean it if there is one.
The people opposing the visit of USS Nimitz are neither mad nor foolish but the opposition is a very calculated move. The rabble rousing being done by the Left parties in India is no doubt at the behest of their puppet masters in Beijing who are concerned at the increasing Indo-US cooperation and friendship. These people wre the happiest when the Indo-US relations were at their nadir especially during the regime of Indira Gandhi. I wonder if a similar hue and cry will be raised were the Nimitz to visit Pakistan?
RE:How come Iran cannot have nuclear When America does
by iq on Jun 29, 2007 06:50 PM Permalink
How come India must respond to USA in relation to any developments of nuclear weapon or for peaceful purposes when india developes something?
RE:RE:How come Iran cannot have nuclear When America does
by iq on Jun 29, 2007 06:52 PM Permalink
How come India must answer to USA in relation to Kargil war when USA kills millions around the world?
RE:How come Iran cannot have nuclear When America does
by phycho on Jun 29, 2007 07:01 PM Permalink
For all US supporters , PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE - http://www.idsa.in/publications/stratcomments/AjeyLele191006.htm
RE:How come Iran cannot have nuclear When America does
by Anurag Shrivastava on Jun 29, 2007 07:05 PM Permalink
No wonder the Lele guy never became anything more than Wing Commander ( Lt Col ) in the Air force...obviously the Airforce has no use for such fools. This agency is headed by our dear friend Pranab Mukherjee - the favourite of left front.
RE:How come Iran cannot have nuclear When America does
by Anurag Shrivastava on Jun 29, 2007 07:05 PM Permalink
IQ - Pakistan has a nuke and Iran will also have it. We consider both these countries to be made up of mad dogs and hence do not want them to have nukes. US and India have common values of democracy and economic dependence and hence will not fight each other and hence US does not have serious objections to India's nuclear ambitions - it makes noises against us sometime but thats where it ends. Get real my friend - we do not want Jehadis to have nukes. As simple as that.
RE:How come Iran cannot have nuclear When America does
by iq on Jun 29, 2007 07:27 PM Permalink
Dear anurag: Who killed more people in the world? Is it Iran, Iraq, or the mighty USA? It will take a nano second to nuke India if USA thought it is for their best interest. Democracy/Peace is only for the west and the death and destruction for the rest of the world. Wake up buddies
RE:How come Iran cannot have nuclear When America does
by Anurag Shrivastava on Jun 29, 2007 11:16 PM Permalink
Well - the number of Indians killed by Americans in war is zero. Number of Indians killed by Pakistanis / jehadis / foriegners from central Asia is a few millions in the last 1000 years. Numbers of Indians killed by communists and chinese is maybe in 10s of thousands. The British fought in India and maybe killed a few 1000 in wars as well as a few in cold blood like in Jalianwala. Nazis killed millions deliberately without war. Stalin and Mao another 10 million without a war. I don't know how many people Americans have killed when there has not been justified war. I have personally viewed Iraq as a justified war because it enabled Americans to establish base right in the heart of middle east and vietnam/korean wars were against spread of communism.
