RE:India army
by Anand Krish on Jun 26, 2007 03:02 PM Permalink
What is there to Salute about them? Are they doing it free? High salary , free drinks, food, place . Hardly any war to fight . It is all play and merry for them.
Army is the last option for the jobless and unemployed.
RE:India army
by biswajit dutta on Jun 26, 2007 08:23 PM Permalink
there is only one way to dispel your misgivings...visit a forward base and see what life they lead...free food? thats 900 pm ...there is no free drinks, subsidised yes but how much..any war??? please go to Kashmir, North East, all border areas...such is life that they now say : better Dead than disabled" not like ur software or MBA inspired job where u sit in a AC room sipping coffee and earning dollars...
as far as entry to services being easy ...let me assure you , your ten generations may not be able to make it to any of the defence services ....not like your AC job that u chuck faster than ur t-shirts....
So dear Krish PLEASE WAKE UP IN LIFE AND OPEN UR EYES TO HARSH LIVES OF THE FAUJIS>>>>...best of luck....
RE:India army
by Padmaja Palekar on Jun 26, 2007 03:34 PM Permalink
Oh really Anand!! I have an offer for you .. atleast put in effort to appear for the selection process of the defence forces ... you will get to know .. what is easier ... getting so called 'brainwork' in the software industry or getting into the army!! You too can then enjoy the 'high salary, free drinks, food, place etc etc' ...
education, employement and equal opportunities for individual growth, only will provide stability in the sub-continent. Among SAARC countries INDIA has the best political environment. The earlier kashmirees understand this, better is for their development.
RE:kashmiree awam
by SLVP on Jun 26, 2007 02:11 PM Permalink
three cheers to indian armed forces especially army which is fighting with all negativities.
Its trully difficult for heroses like Capt.Bana Singh to keep them motivated specialy in a state like Jammu and Kashmir. Its a hard fact whether we like it or not that Muslims of J&K never accept India as their own country.There could be exeptions but then exeptions are rare. Therefore its not surprising what Capt Bana Singh is getting (Rs.160/pm)for winning Param Vir Chakara from a Govt.which is dominated by Muslims of J&K.
RE:A warriors Tale
by sandeep beldona on Jun 26, 2007 02:11 PM Permalink
this mail would fall short to mention what pakistanis stand for ..and if you are an indian ..pls flee to pakistan even guys like you are raped and here in india people like you are allowed to post such messages and still be unharmed..
RE:RE:A warriors Tale
by thiruchitrambalam manickavasagam on Jun 26, 2007 02:16 PM Permalink
Gandhi and Nehru made great mistakes !!! In the year 1947 MUSLIMS divided INDIA , we should have sent all ALLAH's children to DIRTY Pakistan !!!! NOW the cancer has spread every where. IT is good news that in PAKISTAN there is CIVIL WAR like situation !!!!
RE:RE:RE:A warriors Tale
by Aadi Manav on Jun 26, 2007 02:43 PM Permalink
Yes...Pakistan MUST further disintegrate into small nations.That is in interest of India. That would demoralise the Jihadis and islami fanatics.I think India is already workign with USA and Israel for this final effect as the Nukes in Pakistan is a threat for India,Israel and USA. After the disintegration,the Sindh and Punjab provinces can again become part of India. Balochistan would be our new neighboring country and we will have friendly relationship with the pathans in NWFP. Also India can annex the Northen territories of Pakistan and POK to the state of Jammu and Kashmir. I strongly feel that the time has riped to achieve this.The present turmoil of Pakistan would provide an opportunity for India for its next step. Just a repetion of what happend in Bangla Desh in 1971
RE:A warriors Tale
by prashant upadhyay on Jun 26, 2007 01:58 PM Permalink
Abdul Zargar, First of al if India hadn't been secular.You wouldn't be in India at all.
As far as killing,maiming & raping kashmiris is concerned , this is something which terrorists started in 1947.
As a rule even creation of Pakistan, is absurd.Jinnah created it for Muslims.But why ask India to donate it's land for him.Go get it from Arabs.
Please understand that for a plebisite to take place in kashmir it was agreed between both India and Pakistan that a normal atmosphere should prevail... Pakistan which has got part of the Kashmir has already given a part of it to China...India is not responsible for that. Plus please dont question our army... It is only bcoz India is a Democratic State that it has not allowed a free hand to the Army in kashmir....And where did u get this information that the Army is raping , maiming and killing Kashmiris ???.Do you suggest that the Terrorists are doing the right thing by killing innocent people in Kashmir..
RE:A warriors Tale
by Naveen Babu on Jun 26, 2007 02:04 PM Permalink
Mr. Abdul please read the first line of the article...when you rape your own people of religion what moral rights do Pakistan told to have Kashmir on their side? May be the Nizam of Hyderabad wanted it to be a part of Pakistan but Indians never raped or took law into their hands to win them. The so called founder of Pakisthan 'Jinnah' didnt had any vision as the first line of the article tells about his history. How many Kashmiries even today want to be a part of Pakistan? From the day of independence till today the contribution of Pakistan is rape, murder, loot and driving away Kashmiri pandits from Kashmir. How many Muslims came to Hindustan during the Muslim rule....now how many Muslims are there in this part of the world...search your history you yourself might be a Hindu converted to Muslim...brother fighting against brother in the name of religion....shame on such a religion...
RE:A warriors Tale
by sadiq ali on Jun 26, 2007 02:06 PM Permalink
Dear Abdul Zargar
Easy to criticise armed forces, atleast once wear the army uniform and start patrpling your own by lanes of Kashmir, you will realise the pressure of the job.Ungreatfull people all around and never know who will attack and from which side.Under such situation still armed forces doing their job quite efficiently. You people will remain UNGRAETFULL anyway for you Its only AZAD KASHMIR. You are not Indians anyway.....
RE:A warriors Tale
by Aadi Manav on Jun 26, 2007 02:00 PM Permalink
Lahol Willa Kuvat!!!! Abdulbahi,could you please ask your mentor state Pakistan to clarify why Pakistan ceded part of the teritory of Kashmir to China? had Pakistan came and ask you before doing so? You are the stupid people who hold umbrella if it rains in Pakistan. You do not know how the Punjabi Muslims are butchring the Mohajitr muslims those went to Pakistan from UP & bihar. You do not know what atrocoties Pakistan is commiting on the people of Balochistan and NWFP... Understand the ground reality. Remain happy and get progressed in India by becoming its proud citizens.You have the seperate Identity as Kashmiri only by remaining in India. Becominig a part of India will be a doomsday for all Kashmiris. take my words
RE:RE:RE:A warriors Tale
by Aadi Manav on Jun 26, 2007 02:02 PM Permalink
I mean 'Becoming part of Pakistan will be a doosday for all Kashmiris'..Excuse me for the typo.
RE:A warriors Tale
by jagadish achar on Jun 26, 2007 02:46 PM Permalink
rr where u from or u not a pakistani,if u r born in india u fight for this country not for paki
RE:A warriors Tale
by arvind rb on Jun 26, 2007 01:57 PM Permalink
Zargar ..., India never accepted two nation theory. We have more Muslim poppulation than that of pakistan . Being a kashmiri pandit I know about the kashmir . Were miltants brave when they kill innocent children and infants and raped Hindu women ..... Ask them to show their bravery againt our men in uniform .... nor does pakistan have that guts ... they didnt accept the bodies of those who were killed in kargil .... Muslim and Hindus both have right on India ... those who want paksitan can go there ... bur remember .... in pakistan shias , ahmedias and muhajirs are second class citizens .... see the position of gilgit ..... they are 100 years back than the progress in kashmir
RE:A warriors Tale
by Yuvaraj on Jun 26, 2007 02:14 PM Permalink
Arvind...good one my friend...Jai hind...The bravery is not when some one kills innocent people by planting bombs...its when they couldnt prove it in Kargil...
It is a religeous right to love and respect India and its people.All are equal as per indian constitution.there was large examples where so many muslim sacrificed for the home land.And all worship should be given to 1 creator who created us.
We love and respect both Islam and India. Just because I am a Muslim doesnt make me any less Indian, and just because I am Indian doesnt make me any less Muslim. Jai Hind
RE:Islam and India is like two eyes of a Human Being.
by T a s i n on Jun 26, 2007 01:53 PM Permalink
Good one i appreciate that.. and i loved ur heading..
RE:Islam and India is like two eyes of a Human Being.
by Satyajit Mahapatra on Jun 26, 2007 02:26 PM Permalink
Appreciate your view and wish everybody from your community in India feel the same way!
RE:Islam and India is like two eyes of a Human Being.
by Evangelizer on Jun 26, 2007 01:52 PM Permalink
Well, one does not need to go gaga and overboard and heap praises because "indian muslim " says "Jai Hind"....
Read this piece extracted from the article.. "Tomorrow, if India withdraws, the Pakistanis will take Siachen, Pakistan will take it over, because they will always tell lies to the Indian government"...
This is the way these guys operate.. they show that they are with you and gain your complete trust and then at the right opportunity they stab you from behind.. Dont trust any such "India Muslim" who says "Jai Hind" or says he respects India.. I can assure you that even the most patriotic of the muslims have a soft corner for pakistan and will do anything. they just can sleep if they dont think of pakistan..
Mind you this is not about religion.. but its about that community.. religion is the same whether its Hindu/Muslim/Christianity/Sikhism/Buddhism.
RE:Islam and India is like two eyes of a Human Being.
by Indian Muslim on Jun 26, 2007 01:56 PM Permalink
Hello Evangelizer, I had just some time back mentioned their will be some people who doubt our integrity. People like you will be there in all places. Nothing can be done about it. Get ahead man.
RE:RE:Islam and India is like two eyes of a Human Being.
by T a s i n on Jun 26, 2007 01:56 PM Permalink
Now if we take the same yardstick u doing the same thing... in one sweeping statement u brand all muslims as Pakistani's and then in last line u trying to be bright educated and enlightened fellow who has no prejudice against any religion as such. Stick to ur views if at all u have any else free to copy paste ideas and thoughts u moron.
RE:Islam and India is like two eyes of a Human Being.
by Evangelizer on Jun 26, 2007 02:02 PM Permalink
T A S I N.. these are my own views and I dont do copy/paste..
If you can understand the context of my comments you will know that I am trying to keep religion away from it.. but only pointing to a certain section of our community...
And yes I am not trying to be enlightened... and I am not prejudiced.. I can surely say "Allo-o-Akbar".. without winching and whole heartedly.. but can you say "Jai Mata Di".. or "Jai Guru Govindji"... if yes say so.. then I will not doubt you or Indian muslim..
RE:Islam and India is like two eyes of a Human Being.
by T a s i n on Jun 26, 2007 02:22 PM Permalink
Being a nice human being is more important than giving a verbal proof by shouting " jai Mata di" or " jai guru Gobind Ji" or for that matter "Allah o Akbar". If i am good to my Hindu or Sikh or Muslim neighbor, frends, colleagues etc that is more than enough dear. try to be a good human being as simple as that. The more u try to complicate worse it is for you and society you live in. My two cents..Anyways ur wish and i m not here to preach...gud luck
RE:Islam and India is like two eyes of a Human Being.
by kashyap on Jun 26, 2007 02:03 PM Permalink
Appreciate your view.... It was nice to read such a view
All is done by the Poltics, person is having no interest in poltics is having no interest in borders and relegion for him his wrok and humanity is important
for last half decade pakistan is fighting in kashmir , thrice it has been defeated still it is trying to aquire kashmir.kashmiri people are suffering but its like we are not responsible for their suffering ,if india would not have supported it then it wuld have been part of pakistan then what about their freedom they will lose their identity and land forever .if they live happily as a part of india they will be benifited their children will get good education they can join mnc live decent life , tourism will flourish they will become millionaires. in contrast if be a part of pakistan it will became a military camp, terrorists will be trained and their childrens will became terrorists no tourism industriliasation no education since they will not go to school and prefer madrasas. it is upto them now to join any one they cant be independent if pakistan can try to snacth it from india what if they are alone surely they will be attacked. for last half century it has became like palestine . india dont want to grab anything forcefully twice it defeated pak but returned their land , kashmiris should understand from this that india is not snatching anything from them it is their king who made the agreement and we are just protecting them
RE:kashmir
by Abdul Zargar on Jun 26, 2007 01:53 PM Permalink
Remember the English were speaking words while in occupation of India. I want to sacrifice my everything decent living,MNC Jobs,Good education for the freedom of my Motherland KASHMIR in the same way in which Indians did.PEACEFULLY OFCOURSE
RE:kashmir
by Prabhat Mittal on Jun 26, 2007 03:17 PM Permalink
i think this time kashmir is free but after going in pakistans hand what will happen????. i think as it is happening in some parts of pakistan u know better
