I think that there is no Bharat but there is what I called United States of India (USI). How united they are is a matter of another debate. Take a Look a the current religious issue in Punjab or the Gujjar issue in Rajasthan or the Temple cleaning issue in Kerela or Mayawati Dalit issue in UP. Take conversion issues in North East or take the illegal Banglaedshi issue in Mumbai. Take Maratha/Brahmin issue in Maharashtra or Brahmin / Shurda issue in Tamil Nadu or Karnataka.. Take Comminism in West Bengal to Capitalism in Gujarat/Dehli.. There is no one ethos in India. There is no one level of thought in this country called as Bharat or India or (Muslim refer as Hindustan). On top of that the constitution of Indian is in foreign language called as ENGLISH. We still have 50-70 yr old British laws E.g. ECNR check for foreigne travellers. Nobody understands normal English let alone Legal English which is required to make/interpret Laws. You have the judiciary who is not at par with the normal city peoples expectations forget about villagers. What's the result of this Chaos.. First dangerous traffic patterns. Then illegal property transactions. Then thugs getting elected. Finally foreign countries like Pakistan/Bangladesh eying on the 7'th largest country in the world. Minorities dominating the majority politically which is un-natural. I think our OLD leaders are not in the position to solve Kashmir we have to wait foe all of them to die....
RE:Kashmir problem
by amit on Jun 27, 2007 11:17 AM Permalink
excellent analysis. Leave India, thats better, or else be ready to get converted to other religions.
each and every one of us should remember, the armed forces gave their today so that we could have our tomorrow. God Bless India and its brave men in Uniform
RE:salute them
by srikrishna vempaty on Jun 26, 2007 10:53 PM Permalink
very well said god bless india and its men in uniform gut unfortunatly our politicians neither care for our borders nor our men who care for these borders. evry day we see our jawans dying in kashmir cant our decision makers take decisions in such way that hings dont repeeat.
RE:salute them
by Ray on Jun 27, 2007 01:55 PM Permalink
One option is for the retired army people to stand in politics, and represent the army and its values and sacrifices when elected. This is the case in USA, where many ex-servicemen have joined politics and are a vigorous supporter of Army issues.
Quite frankly India should have never been divided, two nation theory was fundamentally wrong, British were succeeded againg in dividing the country. Gandhi and in particular Nehru failed to realize the gravity of the situation, they should have let the Jinna become the first prime minister of India but no the self interest of Nehru didn't let it happen (The reasoning given to Jinnah was because in India the majority is hindu and they wouldn't accept a muslim PM, which lead Jinna to creat Pakistan with the help of british otherwise he was the most secular muslim of his time). The division was wrong territorially too, why a 95 percent muslim populated land (Kashmir) didn't go to pakistan, and the majority of more productive punjab land was given to pakistan. Again a stupid reasoning is given because the Kashmir was ruled by hindu raja and he didn't want to go to pakistan is all bullshit than from that point of view Andhra was Nizam territory and the whole india was Mughal territory before british should have gone to Pakistan.
RE:Let the truth be told
by rahul on Jun 27, 2007 11:49 AM Permalink
Sameer u r saying that Jinnah could have been chosen as first PM rather than nehru.Why could jinnah not digest Nehru as PM now this tells who was more power hungry.Why then jinnah wanted separate state as pakistan if he was that secular.
RE:Let the truth be told
by Haroon Ghalib on Jun 26, 2007 11:30 PM Permalink
Sameer Joshi I am from Pakistan,what u wrote is true and it seems u have read history from unbaised sources. What Jinnah wanted was separate electrolate, he played the card for separate land if demands not met! Nehru(wanting to be a dynasty and u can see till today) and Gandhi takin religion into politics,made it possible that muslim league was atrue representative of muslims! and what happened next was division. Jinnah was a secular person(even he wasnt a saint)and no one wanted separation(read S M Seervai a lawyer of india) book apart from Nehru whjo just wanted all! Regarding kashmir,what the writer wrote is such a bullshit that it made me laugh!95% population in 1947 wanted top go india? would u believe it? and Hari Singh signs the accession with india and next day troops are in valley such great performance,it meant india was ready!!and pak sent troops and mujahids meant pak govt was so organised! its a hotch potch of politics!u rightly said abt Nizam, there was on Junagadh whos nizam went for pakistan with 95% hindu population!both of these places rule of raja wasnt applied just kashmir was the place where rule of raja was applied!Ferozpur had 97% muslim population and biggest cantonment,was given to india!!!which made it possible for indian troops movement into kashmir,all routes to kashmir by road were from pak side!india cud only airlift troops!now tell me whos gonna buy the story? LEGALLY india part? its not its still disputed in UN
RE:Let the truth be told
by Indian Guy on Jun 26, 2007 11:49 PM Permalink
To hell with you Pakis. Kashmir is ours and you must not dare look at it. We are one of the Super powers and where do you guys stand today. You are into terrorism and hatred so please stay there any we all know that your country doesn't allow free press.
You backward guys dont have internet or your own media -- so back off and stay in your own sites.
RE:Let the truth be told
by amit on Jun 27, 2007 11:29 AM Permalink
haroon ghalib, you must go back to Iraq/Saudi, or else we will need to take steps to drive you out of greater hindustan (India Pakistan).
this message is for our lame a$$ film producers & directors including actors Above is a TRUE STORY line for our directors who are too busy copying USA and kissing neighbours a$$es. VERY SAD!! it seems like they dont want to make movies on war (cuz they dont our pyare neighbours to MIND!). STOP SHOWING FANTASY, PLEASE SHOW REALITY! everytime i rent a movie based on indian army. it turns out to be same $hit (i shouldnt have to explain ppl know) Border was the closest they could get to reality but and i still give it a 6.5/10. stop kissing ppls butt. (show the truth!) i also want to know if it is against the law to make movies based on true stories and please go easy on the drama too in movies (so fake!)
RE:producers and directors
by srikrishna vempaty on Jun 26, 2007 11:03 PM Permalink
If our audiences see we have very good directors We dont really appreciate talented people in our country. we go for lineage that is unfortunatly the sad thing. even if rahul is bafoon he has to be the next PM its just not politics every field see our recent president election a big example. Sonia who is a an uneducated lady today controlled the seat of president and such an eligible person like kalam had to accept it. we cant see reality our people will be riding bycicleeating one time food but they want pictures shot in london and new york.even if he is a bafoon if he belongs to some big actor then he will be sucessfull with some 16 yr females running around and stripping.thes producers and directors and actors spend all black money in uk,canda in tne name of film festivals
it is great to learn the marvellous work done by our troops to save kashmir.despite the killing weather they managed to bring vicotry for india not but twice.this shows how powerful and deternined we are.to walk even during ordinary winter days we need very avaialable tools to keep us cool.i cant even image the way overcame the odds of himalayas winter is some cant done by everyone .i can be complished only by determined and focused.it is proud to indian for braverly they exbhited to two decades ago.hats off to all whose did their bit during whose two wars with pak.well done
Deh Sivaa bar mo(i) ihai subh karman te kab-hoon na taron|| O Goddess, grant me boon that I may not hesitate from performing good actions.
Na tdaron ar(i) so jab jaae laron nischal kar apnoo jeet karon|| I may not fear the enemy, when I go to fight and assuredly I may become victorious.
Ar(u) sikh hon aapne hee man kau eh laalach hau gun tau uchron|| And I may give this instruction to my mind and have this tempotration that I may ever utter Thy Praises.
Jab aav kee audh nidaan banai at hee ran mai tab joojh maron|| When the end of my life comes, then I may die fighting in the battlefield.
RE:Respect to all the soldiers who have and still are protecting us!!!!
by arvind rb on Jun 26, 2007 05:46 PM Permalink
always loved this words ..... The land which was blessed with Guru govind singh .... shall surely give birth to lots of Bana sighs.
Soora so pahchania jo lade deen ke hait %u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026 Purza ,Purza kat mare kabhun na chade khet
RE:Respect to all the soldiers who have and still are protecting us!!!!
by Om on Jun 26, 2007 07:12 PM Permalink
Below lines are always inspirational: "Chidiyaan naal je baaj ludaavaan, Tahin Govind Singh naam kuhaawaan" Jo Bole Sonihaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal Susriyakal
RE:Respect to all the soldiers who have and still are protecting us!!!!
by srikrishna vempaty on Jun 26, 2007 11:19 PM Permalink
I sincerely bow before all my sikh brothers who fought bravely for protecting our country just not in these few wars but all those periods of islamic invasions of 13 centuries during which thousand of hindus are cruelly crushed by those muslims hindus were protected by brave worriord of sikh kingdoms even now our army has a large number of punjabis to be proud about i bow before guru granth with all respect.
RE:Respect to all the soldiers who have and still are protecting us!!!!
by Vish on Jun 26, 2007 11:28 PM Permalink
Please don't forget, all Sikh were/are Hindus too. I don't think, 10th Guruji meant to start a new religion but wanted to infuse new blood into downtrodden Hindus.
