RE:detective
by Gazanfar Z Azmi on Jun 24, 2007 02:34 PM Permalink
DETECTCIVE... FORGET ABOUT RESEARCH.. THINK OF PRESENT.. YOU HINDUS HAVE PROJECTED SUCH A PITIABLE IMAGE OF YOURSELF ON THIS BOARD THAT WE DO NOT HAVE TO SAY PEOPLE BELONGING TO WHICH RELIGION IS MORE UNCIVILISED...
RE:RE:RE:detective
by Vinay Gupta on Jun 24, 2007 02:38 PM Permalink
Bhai, istead of talking and praising each other why donot u answer to some of the basic points raised by the readers.
How Islam is True and purest religion.
How a religious preacher can kill some one and that too only male?
RE:RE:detective
by Gazanfar Z Azmi on Jun 24, 2007 02:42 PM Permalink
ARE YOU DREAMING PRASAD... SEE THAT YOU FAMILY MEMBERS DO NOT TOUCH OTHERS (SHIV) LINGAS...
RE:RE:RE:detective
by Prasad on Jun 24, 2007 02:46 PM Permalink
ha ha, Azmi u don't know about ur own kaaba? ha ha. Everyone knows shiva lingams are inside Kaaba. poor guy. first take care of ur half-linga before worrying about other. ha ha.
RE:RE:RE:RE:detective
by Gazanfar Z Azmi on Jun 24, 2007 02:57 PM Permalink
PRASAD,YOU KNOW WHAT IS CIRCUMCISION....AND THEN YOU SAY HALF LINGAS...I NEVER KNEW HINDUS HAD SUCH LOW IQ'S...RESEARCH HAS SHOWN THAT LADIES ENJOY MORE OF MUSLIM MEN THA HINDU MEN. BEWARE AT HOME FOR SOMEONE DOES NOT MISADVENTURE.
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by Prasad on Jun 24, 2007 03:07 PM Permalink
Gazanfar Azmi, your posting shows your upbringing. I do not want blame you. Sex and producing more children for Islam to spread is what ur prophet taught u. I heard your muslim wives are fed up with your half-lingams. No Hindu men or women like Muslims
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by Prasad on Jun 24, 2007 03:12 PM Permalink
Dear Gazanfar Azmi, hindus are not so weak minded as to misadventure like u people. Just to have sex u have half-lingams like ur prophet. ha ha. don't worry. we have other things to think. just because u dirty people have half-lingas no christian or hindu will come running to u. ha ha. ask ur girls about ur half lingams. ha ha.
RE:RE:ANSWER ME YOU UNCIVILSED HINDUS ON THIS FORUM..
by Gazanfar Z Azmi on Jun 24, 2007 02:35 PM Permalink
WHY DO HINDUS WORSHIP ANIMALS AND DEVILS THEN
RE:ANSWER ME YOU UNCIVILSED HINDUS ON THIS FORUM..
by marigold on Jun 24, 2007 02:26 PM Permalink
Yes Mr. Ghazanfar. I wonder how can the intelligent people of India who invented the zero cannot even do simple mathematics !!!!
STOP FIGHTING and abusing each other. This is such a lovely article about people who know that true faith does not mean that you are Muslim or Hindu but how kind and compassionate and loving you are towards other human beings in all circumstances. Hats off to Rediff for putting this story on the net and shame to all those of you who propagate hatred and intolerance in the name of your respective religions!!!
RE:all you people
by Gazanfar Z Azmi on Jun 24, 2007 02:27 PM Permalink
Bala K , I think you are new on this m board...any article that is loaded here about good about unity is treated with barrage of ... from the organised channels of RSS...
Sanjay,You say my forefathers converted to Islam then it must have been for pwepople like you who must have not traeted them equally.SECONDLY I AM HAPPY TO BE NOT A HINDU TODAY AFTER SEEING THE EDUCTAED BLACK SHEEPS AMONGST THE HINDUS...THESE HINDUS ARE COMPLETELY UNCIVILISED OVER HERE.
VINAY : RELIGION IS SOMETHING FOR YOU PERSONALLY. IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT LEAVE IT. IF YOU FEEL HINDUSIM IS GOOD KEEP IT FOR YOURSELF.IF I FEEL ISLAM IS GOOD ,THEN IT IS FOR MYSLEF. THERE IS NO POINT POINTING AND ACCUSING OTHERS...
RE:MY FOREFATHER TOOK A WISE DECISION THEN...
by marigold on Jun 24, 2007 02:19 PM Permalink
I am happy with Islam too. I do not know when muslims themselves have no problem with worshiping One God why these people are forcing us to go back an worship some animals and stones ? I sincerely thank all the people who were involved in my forefathers conversion. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
RE:MY FOREFATHER TOOK A WISE DECISION THEN...
by Vinay Gupta on Jun 24, 2007 02:36 PM Permalink
Gaznafar, That is what I am saying. You people are saying Islam is true and Purest religion. What does that mean?
Is othe religion intrue and unpure. The very wording in the starting of discussion was offensive and reflects your way of thinking. But when it is proved beyound doubt that there are basic flaws in Islam also , you have taken a sober stand. Thanks
Some people said that Islam would be reduced to its quarter size by the year 2020. But even the most conservative estimates suggest that Islam is growing. So if you can do your basic maths, you will know that about 1 Lakh muslims are added to Islam daily. Now someone said that they are only increasing in number because they are breeding like animals and no one is getting converted. So if no one is getting converted then what is your worry ? Have fun. :-) Or maybe you can control your own people running away to buddhism.
RE:Why worry ?
by Vinay Gupta on Jun 24, 2007 02:23 PM Permalink
Mari, our calculation is very simple. Islam cannot survive in democratic society. Where ever Isalm is there there is no multi ideology democracy. Now every one in the world wants freedom and democracy. So there shall be demand in Muslim country for openness and free society.
Woman will also like to come out of Burkha. They will study science and then come to know about all the absurd written.
Now muscle power will not rule. So number shall not define the supermacy. Technology will matter. Muslim will be very inferior on this front. West shall never allow them to get latest tech. They may make crude Nuclear bomb but shall not be able to deliver it.
So I feel in coming year there will be lot of change in Islam.
Again it is all estimates. you enjoy yours and face the music as u have in Afganistan and Iraq
RE:Why worry ?
by marigold on Jun 24, 2007 02:31 PM Permalink
Afghanistan lost a million people during Soviet invasion. But at the end there was an end to Soviet Union. Afghanistan exists. Secondly, when you are so sure that Pakistan does not have weapons delivery systems then why not finish off all the terror camps by attacking the terror camps. Go into Pakistan and finish them. Why are you afraid of things that wont fly :-) BTW chinese are known to be much better in technology than Indians. So I guess the logical Indians know that chinese things will fly.
RE:Why worry ?
by Vinay Gupta on Jun 24, 2007 02:49 PM Permalink
Land will always remain. Earth will always remain so will be the Afganistan but in what shape?
Do u mean we are afraid of Pak? But as long as possible India is avoiding war. When it is forced on us then we will repeat 1948, 1965, 1971 and Kargil. Then neither US nor China shall be of any help
RE:Why worry ?
by hello on Jun 24, 2007 02:16 PM Permalink
mariglod..i hope you will live next 10 years(may be you end up in a death or convert)..lets see the siza of mullas in world population..
RE:Why worry ?
by marigold on Jun 24, 2007 02:21 PM Permalink
Your father must have said the same thing in 1980. But look here we have a population 21% now against 13% that we had in 1980. Now you are saying the same thing but I am sure your child wont say the same thing because by then he might convert to buddhism.
RE:Why worry ?
by hello on Jun 24, 2007 02:27 PM Permalink
i think you counted the population your self..where you are counting?..i am talking about entire world not only this county..islam lost it powe by year 1700 hundred..now only decline left..show me which is the so powerfull muslim county in the world which can incur damage on non muslim country?,...
RE:Why worry ?
by marigold on Jun 24, 2007 02:38 PM Permalink
Hahaha I am talking about the whole world not India. Go and check the statistic on the internet.
Muslims are often held responsible for the terrorist attacks being carried out around the world. There seems to be a serious misunderstanding about the concept of Jihad. If one studies Islam objectively without any pre-judgements, he will soon realize Jihad is only a form of self defense. In 1921 Keralite Muslims practiced Jihad against British rule. I can say for sure that all the wars waged in the early periods of the Islam were only for this reason. Meccans were not at all tolerate with the Islam and they wanted to nip it in the bud. So there was no alternative before Muslims but to defend. In modern age you can find many examples for this self defence in Occupied Palestine, Iraq, Afganistan, to name a few. Amidst the continuing targeting of this worldly faith, the good is that more and more people are coming forward to learn what Islam really is and what it stands for, making it the fastest growing religion in the world today. In western societies the literatures talking about the true Islamic faith are being sold like hot bread. The word Islam itself means Salam or peace. The self defence in many cases paved the way for enduring peace. When it comes to Indian Muslims, there is always doubt about their patriotism. In many cases they are more patriot than followers of all other religions. You can see it clearly from my own Arabic website which is dedicated to change the dominant stereotypic view of Arab world towards India. Please visit: www.geocities.com/indigate
RE:RE:What Islam Really is
by Mohamed Abdul Jaleel on Jun 24, 2007 02:23 PM Permalink
I am talking about the early periods of Islam. Off course, there can be some mistakes committed by some of its followers. But it is unfair to generalize. Even during the period of Muslim rule of Spain and other parts of Europe no body was forced to convert to Islam. Rather, Islam taught them what civilization is when most of the Europe was living in its dark ages. It is widely accepted fact among the historians that during the Muslim rule of Spain, it reached to the peak of its prosperity. Please feel free to learn about Islam without any pre-judgements and dont judge on its faith only by the deeds of some of its followers. Mohamed Abdul Jaleel, Founder of bavabathulHind www.geocities.com/indigate/ akhbarulHind www.geocities.com/akhbarhind/
RE:RE:What Islam Really is
by on Jun 24, 2007 03:04 PM Permalink
It has been a regular Islamic practice to break shrines of other religions and convert those into mosques. Whether it is in India(Sri Ram Janambhoomi, Krishna Janambhoomi, Vishwanath temple in Varanasi are just tip of the iceberg). World wide, whether in Greece, Cypress, Turkey, you name the country and you can see examples of Islamic intolerance of other religions. In Kashmir, MOST of the Hindu temples were destroyed and forcibly converted. What is known as Shahi Hamdaan in Srinagar(Kashmir) was a famous Kali temple.Till 1990, Hindus could be seen worshiping a small piece of outer wall of the Shahi Hamdaan complex.People talk of destruction of so called Babri Masjid. Why are people silent on the wholesale destruction of hindu shrines/ temples in Kashmir, even since Independence.More so, after 1990.
yes at that time islamic world was more advanced than europe, but the violent method of jihad did not go down well with the europeans thats why the launched crusades.
anyway its time now to reform islam just like jews have removed all the violent as aspects of judiasm.
