we just happened to born in a perticular religion.when we grow up we were taught by our parents to practice certain rituals/religions.most of us are stick to that rituals till the end of life.some are changing their beliefs(conveting)due to certian situations.to make the situation positive to him or her.this religions were not our selections,but we just happened to be born in that religion.it is not our mistake nor the grace tht we got.you read about the hundeds or thousands of beliefs(religions)in the world.all are having strange(funny)rituals,stories,mythologies etc.there is no sense or meaning in criticising other's beliefs claiming that our is is the perfect. whatever you do or not do it is between you and your god. if you get a heaven or a hell by your deed it is only for you.so why do we we criticise,laugh at,attack, abuse or kill others just because they practice a different ritual/ religion.why don't we just leave it with due respect saying"it is between them and their god".The problems is that when we try to correct(???) others,it is very offending to others and the enimity starts.and the peace is gone.
RE:islam - a disease
by Gazanfar Z Azmi on Jun 24, 2007 03:22 PM Permalink
YOU REQUIRE A VIRUS TO CURE ANOTHER VIRUS...IN THAT MATTER ISLAM IS A DISEASE TO CURE HINDUISM OF ALL THE EVILS...HAD HINDUISM NOT DISCRIMINTED FELLOW HINDUS THERE WOUOLD NOT HAVE BEEN CONVERSION...
RE:RE:islam - a disease
by Vinay Gupta on Jun 24, 2007 03:30 PM Permalink
Tell us, if u condemn the destruction of others place of worship by Mohamad in Mecca?
Tell us , if condemn the destruction of Bamian Buddha ?
RE:islam - a disease
by Vinay Gupta on Jun 24, 2007 03:43 PM Permalink
Answer first part of my question . Condemn it as well as second and say it is uninlamic and against the teaching f Quran. Why Bamiyan survived , I'll answer taht also
RE:RE:Do you now
by Gazanfar Z Azmi on Jun 24, 2007 03:30 PM Permalink
MAYBE MY FOREFATHERS CONVERTED BUT DUE TO ATROCITIES BY FELLOW HINDUS...NOW I LEAD A PEACEFUL LIFE THERE IS NO ONE TO TELLME NOT TO SIT HERE OR THERE.
YOUR MESSAGE POST SHOWS HOW INTOLERANT HINDUS ARE BUT THAT IS WHAT YOU PEOPLE HAVE INHERITED FROM YOUR ANCESTORS...HATE...GANGA MEIN DUPKI LAGANE SE PAAP NAHIN DHUL JAATE...
RE:ISLAM CLEANSED THE EVILS
by Vinay Gupta on Jun 24, 2007 03:18 PM Permalink
But why Islam could not cleanse the evels in ARAB society from which mohamad belongs.
RE:RE:ISLAM CLEANSED THE EVILS
by Robin on Jun 24, 2007 03:47 PM Permalink
First you Ass Holes Try to Clean The shit Among your selves then try to point out on other religion for details read below lines.
Mumbai: Hindu teachers sprinkled cow urine on low-caste students to purify them and drive away evil, reports said yesterday, in a country where millions of people remain oppressed at the bottom of the ancient Hindu caste system.
Upper-caste headteacher Sharad Kaithade ordered the ritual after taking over from a lower-caste predecessor at a school in a remote village in the western state of Maharashtra earlier this month, the Times of India reported.
He told an upper-caste colleague to spray cow urine in a cleansing ceremony as the students were taking an examination, wetting their faces and their answer sheets, the newspaper said.
"She said you'll study well after getting purified," student Rajat Washnik was quoted as saying by the CNN-IBN news channel. Students said they felt humiliated.
Hinduism reveres the cow, and its dung is used in the countryside as both a disinfectant and as fuel.
RE:ISLAM CLEANSED THE EVILS
by pushpen singh on Jun 24, 2007 03:17 PM Permalink
Sati started among the Rajputs due to the barbaric muslim invasions ,to save themselves from getting raped.
Those barbaric muslims even used to rape the dead bodies of Rajput female.
Todays muslims are descendents of those women to got raped by them
RE:RE:ISLAM CLEANSED THE EVILS
by Robin on Jun 24, 2007 03:47 PM Permalink
First you Ass Holes Try to Clean The shit Among your selves then try to point out on other religion for details read below lines.
Mumbai: Hindu teachers sprinkled cow urine on low-caste students to purify them and drive away evil, reports said yesterday, in a country where millions of people remain oppressed at the bottom of the ancient Hindu caste system.
Upper-caste headteacher Sharad Kaithade ordered the ritual after taking over from a lower-caste predecessor at a school in a remote village in the western state of Maharashtra earlier this month, the Times of India reported.
He told an upper-caste colleague to spray cow urine in a cleansing ceremony as the students were taking an examination, wetting their faces and their answer sheets, the newspaper said.
"She said you'll study well after getting purified," student Rajat Washnik was quoted as saying by the CNN-IBN news channel. Students said they felt humiliated.
Hinduism reveres the cow, and its dung is used in the countryside as both a disinfectant and as fuel.
RE:RE:RE:ISLAM CLEANSED THE EVILS
by Robin on Jun 24, 2007 03:59 PM Permalink
First you Ass Holes Try to Clean The shit Among your selves then try to point out on other religion for details read below lines.
Mumbai: Hindu teachers sprinkled cow urine on low-caste students to purify them and drive away evil, reports said yesterday, in a country where millions of people remain oppressed at the bottom of the ancient Hindu caste system.
Upper-caste headteacher Sharad Kaithade ordered the ritual after taking over from a lower-caste predecessor at a school in a remote village in the western state of Maharashtra earlier this month, the Times of India reported.
He told an upper-caste colleague to spray cow urine in a cleansing ceremony as the students were taking an examination, wetting their faces and their answer sheets, the newspaper said.
"She said you'll study well after getting purified," student Rajat Washnik was quoted as saying by the CNN-IBN news channel. Students said they felt humiliated.
Hinduism reveres the cow, and its dung is used in the countryside as both a disinfectant and as fuel.
RE:RE:RE:ISLAM CLEANSED THE EVILS
by Robin on Jun 24, 2007 03:59 PM Permalink
First you Ass Holes Try to Clean The shit Among your selves then try to point out on other religion for details read below lines.
Mumbai: Hindu teachers sprinkled cow urine on low-caste students to purify them and drive away evil, reports said yesterday, in a country where millions of people remain oppressed at the bottom of the ancient Hindu caste system.
Upper-caste headteacher Sharad Kaithade ordered the ritual after taking over from a lower-caste predecessor at a school in a remote village in the western state of Maharashtra earlier this month, the Times of India reported.
He told an upper-caste colleague to spray cow urine in a cleansing ceremony as the students were taking an examination, wetting their faces and their answer sheets, the newspaper said.
"She said you'll study well after getting purified," student Rajat Washnik was quoted as saying by the CNN-IBN news channel. Students said they felt humiliated.
Hinduism reveres the cow, and its dung is used in the countryside as both a disinfectant and as fuel.
So anybody who speaks against muslims are RSS members?
Fact is 99% Hindus over here have never been to a RSS shakha.
What we Hindus speak here is the truth and nothing.
If Hindus would have been fanatic there would not have been a single muslim in this country. But you cannot say the same thing about muslims. Just see the example of Pakistan and Bangladesh.There the number of Hindus are decreasing everyday while the number of muslims are increasing everyday in India.
Can you name ONE muslim country where the number of minorities is increasing?
Can you name one muslim country which gives same rights to the non-muslim minorities?
It is only in India that minotities can start riots . Has anyone heard of minorities rioting in musim countries?
RE:who are fanatics
by Gazanfar Z Azmi on Jun 24, 2007 03:19 PM Permalink
PUSHPEN,YOU SAY:"If Hindus would have been fanatic there would not have been a single muslim in this country"
I DO NT HAVE TO PROVE THAT HINDUS ARE FANATIC....SEE WHAT IS BEING PERPRETRAED HEREIN THIS MBOARD...AND YOU SAY HINDUS ARE NOT FANATIC...
RE:who are fanatics
by Robin on Jun 24, 2007 03:47 PM Permalink
First you Ass Holes Try to Clean The shit Among your selves then try to point out on other religion for details read below lines.
Mumbai: Hindu teachers sprinkled cow urine on low-caste students to purify them and drive away evil, reports said yesterday, in a country where millions of people remain oppressed at the bottom of the ancient Hindu caste system.
Upper-caste headteacher Sharad Kaithade ordered the ritual after taking over from a lower-caste predecessor at a school in a remote village in the western state of Maharashtra earlier this month, the Times of India reported.
He told an upper-caste colleague to spray cow urine in a cleansing ceremony as the students were taking an examination, wetting their faces and their answer sheets, the newspaper said.
"She said you'll study well after getting purified," student Rajat Washnik was quoted as saying by the CNN-IBN news channel. Students said they felt humiliated.
Hinduism reveres the cow, and its dung is used in the countryside as both a disinfectant and as fuel.
RE:who are fanatics
by Bala K on Jun 24, 2007 03:20 PM Permalink
So, do you like India for what it is or do you want it to become like the muslim ountries you talk about? Aren't you proud of this tradition of pluralism which extends itself to not only muslims but christians, sikhs, jews, etc? And don't you want to continue to maintain it by not sounding like the RSS which would rather throw all muslims out of the country?
RE:RE:who are fanatics
by Robin on Jun 24, 2007 03:53 PM Permalink
First you Ass Holes Try to Clean The shit Among your selves then try to point out on other religion for details read below lines.
Mumbai: Hindu teachers sprinkled cow urine on low-caste students to purify them and drive away evil, reports said yesterday, in a country where millions of people remain oppressed at the bottom of the ancient Hindu caste system.
Upper-caste headteacher Sharad Kaithade ordered the ritual after taking over from a lower-caste predecessor at a school in a remote village in the western state of Maharashtra earlier this month, the Times of India reported.
He told an upper-caste colleague to spray cow urine in a cleansing ceremony as the students were taking an examination, wetting their faces and their answer sheets, the newspaper said.
"She said you'll study well after getting purified," student Rajat Washnik was quoted as saying by the CNN-IBN news channel. Students said they felt humiliated.
Hinduism reveres the cow, and its dung is used in the countryside as both a disinfectant and as fuel.
RE:who are fanatics
by Vinay Gupta on Jun 24, 2007 03:23 PM Permalink
Bala, we want India to remain Indai and do not want to lose part of it so that it become like Pak which was earlier India.
RE:RE:who are fanatics
by Vinay Gupta on Jun 24, 2007 03:26 PM Permalink
We are proud of India but at the same time know the dangers it is facing from Islam. We cannot overlook it. India is a pluristic society bcoz it is dominated by HINDU? SIKH/JAIN/BUDDISTS/JEWS/ARYASAMAJIS etc etc. We cannot afford to loose them any one. If we loose them then that area will become PAK/ Bangladesh type.
So do you want us to close our eyesfrom this fact, Bala?
RE:who are fanatics
by Ibrahim Sheik on Jun 24, 2007 03:14 PM Permalink
TERRORISM SEEDS IN INDIA I agree that there are some MADRASSAS where Hatred is preached.. But one will be suprised in a DEmocratic country like India, there are More Hatred Preaching Centers called RSS SHAKAS & Bajrang Dal Centers, where the Art of Spewing Venom and Terrorizing the Weak are Trained on a Daily basis... These Centers Out number the Number of Madrassas in Pak.... So First we need to clean our Home and then comment on Others... Since RSS/ Bajrang Dal are not representatives of True Hindusim, I cannot defame Hinduism... I am not generalizing and expect the same from you guys to stop generalizing all the Madrassas as Terrorist Breeding Grounds... The Truth is there are more Hatred Breeding Centers in India... This is the TRUTH
Panchkula Afternoon, 255pm.Sunday the 24th june 2007. Well,Kashmiriyat and secularism were synonyms for ages.Until for last few decades when Muslim identity erased earlier inclusive Kashmiryat of this fabulous Valley.One wishes the few vestiges of old inclusiveness was witnessed by Chamanlal who was at 70 while visiting Khir Bhawani Shrine after exiled to Jammu ( true to our folk traditions every place outside of our specific nativity , for instance for a Kashmiri Pundit Dogra's Jammu is exile )at least some muslims offered Milk to this Returning native as of old!Truly , if old ties could be reinvoked it could mean triumph and return of ancient Good-will. This ,if it could lead to happy reconciliation of small religious amity of Minority Pundits and Majority Sunni and perhaps some votaries of Wahabis if not recruits of Al-Qaeda ,too it would be return to sanity.Currently, Salman Rushdi another Muslim Writer is inviting wrath of our tolerant Kashmiris.. Let as the first lesson of liberalism Kashmiris soften blasphemy concepts of Prophet and Islam first ,before accommodating Kufra of Idol-worship...Is it possible for newer generation of Kashmiris to pierce these thickly layed layers of bigotry from their vision of Allah.Humanism wishes this to be possible despite all the bad-blood felt and spelt in preceding decades.D. Goel
The rogue Brahmin organisations like RSS/VHP/Bajrangi's & BJP are working over time to create some sort of phobia in the minds of people. They have found a great weapon of creating Islamic phobia or Conversion phobia in the minds of Indians. The population of Hindus in India is more than 80%. These Brahmin controlled organisations are unnecessarily creating this phobia to take political mileage and remain at top as always they were for thousands of years. They are least bothered about Hinduism. Had they been, they would not have tortured their brethren from Backward & OBC's and kept them ages away from every aspect of life. Many Backwards have been converted to Christianity & Islam only because they could not withstand the humiliation perpetrated by their Co-religionists in Brahmins.
Brahmins controlled Hinduism. This Brahmin controlled Hinduism with their four classes and 4% Brahmins remaining at top made the life of vast masses from Hinduism very miserable. It is not the force or allurement from other religion that people convert. If that was the case, whole India would have been Islamised or Christianised by now as Muslims have ruled this Nation for more than 800 years and British ruled for 3 - 4 centuries.
In fact this Nation and Hinduism is raped thoroughly by these 4% Brahmins. They have created such a social order that people from backward classes have been smothered & suffocated & made to leave Hinduism. No point in blaming Muslims and / or Christians.
RE:Get Rid of Islamic Phobia
by mandar on Jun 24, 2007 03:18 PM Permalink
Bihari Babu,
Your first name suggests you are a christian. Do not jump too much. The gang of RSS/VHP/Bajrangi's can screw you upside down anytime. So start counting your days. I am a Hindu. So I need not worry about these thugs nor do I need to think of going to othet country. But you will ... very soon.
RE:Small list of our mullah deads
by Gazanfar Z Azmi on Jun 24, 2007 03:10 PM Permalink
DO YOU REQUIRE PAPER CUTTING OF ALL THE SMALL HINDU ROBBERS....HINDU THEIVES.... HINDU DACOITS..,.HINDUS THIS... HINDUS THAT ARE DOING...
WHEN YOU DO NOT HAVE A POINT TALK NONSENSE AS ABOVE...
DO YOU SAY HINDUS ARE DEVOID OF ALL THIS... I CAN ONLY LAUGH AT YOUR NONSENSE.
RE:RE:Small list of our mullah deads
by Gazanfar Z Azmi on Jun 24, 2007 03:14 PM Permalink
dO I NEED TO GO TO AFRICA TO SEE THE UNEDUCATED MUSLIMS DOG THIS OR THAT...
I CAN SEE IN INDIA WHAT THE EDUCATED PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAN DO TO PROVOKE PEOPLE ON RELIGIOUS LINES....
THE UNEDUCATED AFRICAN ARE BETTER FOR THEY ARE NOT EDUCTAED BUT WHAT ABOUT THE UNCIVILISED HINDUS HERE....ARE YOU TRYING TO JUSTIFY THEIR BEHAVIOUR...
The hallmark of hinduism has always been tolerance. That is what makes India so special. And I have never seen such an intolerant bunch of uninformed fools as you all who are writing posts here. I doubt if you all have read the Quran so please don't try to sound authoritative. Same with Muslims -- you haven't read the Gita so please don't denigrate another religion.
RE:all you hindus
by Bala K on Jun 24, 2007 03:08 PM Permalink
Oh really? Why didn't we succeed in bashing up the British then-- and lived in subservience for hundreds of years? And how did an MK Gandhi manage to do, without violence, what the mutineers did not do in 1857? Give yourselves a break guys -- terrorists come in all hues -- religious (hindus and muslims), regional (ULFA),political (Naxals). The ONLY way out is peaceful cooperation. If you are not able to see that you're lost souls who will see your own children suffer in the coming years as a result of the message you're spreading on boards such as these
RE:RE:all you hindus
by Vinay Gupta on Jun 24, 2007 03:11 PM Permalink
Bala, have u read the Quran and hadisa. Can you explain the source which has made muslim so agressive and intolerant frm centuaries?
It seems very sound and pleasing to take middle path like Gita and Quran are alike. Is gita only book on Hinduism. Hinduism is very wast . it is pularistic. But we cannot allow any body to abuse us and say that Their religion is TRUE and PUREST .
I hope you will read the quran and HADISA and also study the behaviour of muslim world wide and commanality in the behaviour and approach
being a hindu I believ in EkamSat Vipra bahudha Vadanti" There is one truth and sages narrate it in different manner and also "Aano Bhadra vishvato... LET NOBLEL IDEAS COME TO US FROM ALL DIRECTION
but can other religion say that other religions are as TRUE and PRE as theirs
If someone oppose themthey starts crying that he is RSS?VHP member. Is this the way to argue
RE:all you hindus
by Gazanfar Z Azmi on Jun 24, 2007 03:04 PM Permalink
INDIAN DO YOU KNOW THE MOVEMENT OF 1942...OOPS!!! SORRY I FORGOT THAT RSS WAS NOT INVOLVED WITH INDEPENDENCE SO HOW WILL THEY KNOW ABOUT HISTORY...THEY CAN ONLY CONCOCT HISTORY...
RE:RE:all you hindus
by Gazanfar Z Azmi on Jun 24, 2007 03:06 PM Permalink
I MISSED THE OTHER PART: RSS WAS WITH THE BRITISHERS TRYING TO STEM THE QUIT INDIA MOVEMENT AND WERE BUSY WITH THE BRITISHERS ACTING AS WITNESS AGAINST FREEDOM FIGHTER...SHAME ON YOU AND YOUR ANTECEDENT...
RE:all you hindus
by Vinay Gupta on Jun 24, 2007 03:10 PM Permalink
Bala, have u read the Quran and hadisa. Can you explain the source which has made muslim so agressive and intolerant frm centuaries?
It seems very sound and pleasing to take middle path like Gita and Quran are alike. Is gita only book on Hinduism. Hinduism is very wast . it is pularistic. But we cannot allow any body to abuse us and say that Their religion is TRUE and PUREST .
I hope you will read the quran and HADISA and also study the behaviour of muslim world wide and commanality in the behaviour and approach
being a hindu I believ in EkamSat Vipra bahudha Vadanti" There is one truth and sages narrate it in different manner and also "Aano Bhadra vishvato... LET NOBLEL IDEAS COME TO US FROM ALL DIRECTION
but can other religion say that other religions are as TRUE and PRE as theirs
If someone oppose themthey starts crying that he is RSS?VHP member. Is this the way to argue
