RE:Religion of peace - muslims explain this........
by Robin on Jun 24, 2007 04:15 PM Permalink
First you Ass Holes Try to Clean The shit Among your selves then try to point out on other religion for details read below lines.
Mumbai: Hindu teachers sprinkled cow urine on low-caste students to purify them and drive away evil, reports said yesterday, in a country where millions of people remain oppressed at the bottom of the ancient Hindu caste system.
Upper-caste headteacher Sharad Kaithade ordered the ritual after taking over from a lower-caste predecessor at a school in a remote village in the western state of Maharashtra earlier this month, the Times of India reported.
He told an upper-caste colleague to spray cow urine in a cleansing ceremony as the students were taking an examination, wetting their faces and their answer sheets, the newspaper said.
"She said you'll study well after getting purified," student Rajat Washnik was quoted as saying by the CNN-IBN news channel. Students said they felt humiliated.
Hinduism reveres the cow, and its dung is used in the countryside as both a disinfectant and as fuel.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Religion of peace - muslims explain this........
by Robin on Jun 24, 2007 04:26 PM Permalink
First you Ass Holes Try to Clean The shit Among your selves then try to point out on other religion for details read below lines.
Mumbai: Hindu teachers sprinkled cow urine on low-caste students to purify them and drive away evil, reports said yesterday, in a country where millions of people remain oppressed at the bottom of the ancient Hindu caste system.
Upper-caste headteacher Sharad Kaithade ordered the ritual after taking over from a lower-caste predecessor at a school in a remote village in the western state of Maharashtra earlier this month, the Times of India reported.
He told an upper-caste colleague to spray cow urine in a cleansing ceremony as the students were taking an examination, wetting their faces and their answer sheets, the newspaper said.
"She said you'll study well after getting purified," student Rajat Washnik was quoted as saying by the CNN-IBN news channel. Students said they felt humiliated.
Hinduism reveres the cow, and its dung is used in the countryside as both a disinfectant and as fuel.
RE:Religion of peace - muslims explain this........
by Gazanfar Z Azmi on Jun 24, 2007 04:14 PM Permalink
FIRST GET IT CORRECT...IN QURAAN WHEN TEY SAY IDOL WORSHIPPERS IT IS NOT HINDUS...BUT THE TRIBALS WHO WERE WORHIPPING THE DEMONICS GODS...THEY WERE NOT IDOLS SUCH AS THIOSE WORSHIPPED BY HINDUS....THEY HAD A VERY BAD LIFE AND TRAETED WOMENS VERY BADLY... THEY USED TO DRINK LIQUOR AND FIGHT....
THE TRIBAL LORDS DID NOT WANT TO CHANGE...HENCE THERE ARE MANY MESSAGES FROM ALLAH TO CLEAN THE SYSTEM WHICH WAS RESISTED NY THE TRIBAL LORD WHI DID NOT WANT THEM TO CHANGE(JUST LIKE BRAHMNINS DID NOT SHUDRAS TO HAVE GOOD LIFE)...PROPHET MOHAMMED(pbuh) HAD TO WAGE WAR AGAINST THE TRIBALS AND WIN...
RE:Religion of peace - muslims explain this........
by Sarath Chandra on Jun 24, 2007 04:24 PM Permalink
What is wrong with idol worship? what harm are the poor guys doing to anybody by praying like that? Why is allah so cruel as to kill people just because they don't praise/pray him?
Please don't quote that Muhammad/Allah said so. There are many people that say many things. I request a humanitarian cause. Is it really worth killing somebody just because I pray a paper, stone, pen, any non-sense. Maybe I am foolish/funny for people who don't agree with me. But why kill me?
RE: Companions of the Prophet Muhammad Being Blessed by Drinking His Urine
by Gazanfar Z Azmi on Jun 24, 2007 04:02 PM Permalink
ha ha ha !!! URINE IS DESIGNATED AS MORARJI COLA...EVERYONE KNOWS WHY...
RE:RE: Companions of the Prophet Muhammad Being Blessed by Drinking His Urine
by Robin on Jun 24, 2007 04:16 PM Permalink
First you Ass Holes Try to Clean The shit Among your selves then try to point out on other religion for details read below lines.
Mumbai: Hindu teachers sprinkled cow urine on low-caste students to purify them and drive away evil, reports said yesterday, in a country where millions of people remain oppressed at the bottom of the ancient Hindu caste system.
Upper-caste headteacher Sharad Kaithade ordered the ritual after taking over from a lower-caste predecessor at a school in a remote village in the western state of Maharashtra earlier this month, the Times of India reported.
He told an upper-caste colleague to spray cow urine in a cleansing ceremony as the students were taking an examination, wetting their faces and their answer sheets, the newspaper said.
"She said you'll study well after getting purified," student Rajat Washnik was quoted as saying by the CNN-IBN news channel. Students said they felt humiliated.
Hinduism reveres the cow, and its dung is used in the countryside as both a disinfectant and as fuel.
RE:Companions of the Prophet Muhammad Being Blessed by Drinking His Urine
by marigold on Jun 24, 2007 03:58 PM Permalink
hahahahaha..... Its not hinduism dear....
RE:RE:Companions of the Prophet Muhammad Being Blessed by Drinking His Urine
by Gazanfar Z Azmi on Jun 24, 2007 04:00 PM Permalink
oh oh THE mORARJI colA...
RE:MY GOD ....hindus STINKS>>>
by marigold on Jun 24, 2007 03:52 PM Permalink
Hey Gazanfar...this is not fair...Come on we cant become like them...Let them abuse...we wont abuse them...what does it take to abuse anyone ..nothing...just stick to civilized form of messaging...
RE:MY GOD ....hindus STINKS>>>
by Gazanfar Z Azmi on Jun 24, 2007 03:59 PM Permalink
MY SINCERE APOLOGY TO ALL FOR MY ABOVE MESSAGE... TAHNKS MARI FOR KEEPING ME ON TRACK...
I am surprised by the way we people are spitting venom at each other.
Yesterday, i watched the film bombay, which clearly pointed out that, ALL THESE so called RELIGIOUS HATRED are spread by sick politicians, who wants to taste power at any cost. All the rowdies who want to steal something use these riots to take maximum benefits. We the civilians from both hindus and muslims suffer the most.
Religion is only there to show you the right way of living and guide you to live a civilized life. If this basic objective of human life is defeated by religion, then i think the fault must lie with somebody who taught us the religion. WE CANT BLAME RELIGIONS, AS THEY NEVER TAUGHT US HATRED.
We have an edge over our ancestors that we are more educated and more civilized and we must rise above all these differences, for, You cannot wipe out all the muslims, you cannot rape all muslim girls, you cannot discriminate all muslim kids and still continue to claim that iam a sophisticated modern educated humanbeing of the 2007 AD.
At somepoint we need to realize that we must stop this vicious cycle of hatred and must adopt the policy of live and let live in order to realize the VISION 2020 of our president.
RE:RE:Why cant we be indians first ...
by marigold on Jun 24, 2007 03:48 PM Permalink
Why were there protests all over the world (including US) against the War ?
RE:RE:Why cant we be indians first ...
by Gazanfar Z Azmi on Jun 24, 2007 03:57 PM Permalink
DO NOT TALK ANY SHIT.... MUSLIMS/HINDUSISM IS THE RELIGION ONE PRACTICES AT HOME AND NATIONALITY THE PLACE WHICH GIVES ONES THIER HOME. THESE ARE 2 SEPERATE IDENTITIES...BOTH ARE FIRST IN ITS PLACE... BUT PEOPLE TRY TO FOOL MUSLIMS IN INDIA BY THIS PHRASE OF YOURS...
RE:Why cant we be indians first ...
by marigold on Jun 24, 2007 03:48 PM Permalink
Dont be surprised. Give these poor hindus a chance to take out their frustration. They are so frustrated because people are leaving their religion in thousands...I hope you were watching TV when thousands were cursing hinduism and turning into buddhist....:-) So thanks to rediff they have some space to take out their frustration and demonstrate their abusive religion.
RE:Why cant we be indians first ...
by Gazanfar Z Azmi on Jun 24, 2007 04:03 PM Permalink
RIAZ...THESE ARE NOT THOSE DIGNIFIED MAJORITY HINDUS HERE...THEY CANNOT UNDERSTAND THIS LANGUAGE
RE:Why cant we be indians first ...
by Ibrahim Sheik on Jun 24, 2007 03:50 PM Permalink
Mr. Riaz Khan, You are talking to HINDU FANATICS and not normal HINDU FRIENDS.... So no point in explaining it to them....
RE:Why cant we be indians first ...
by marigold on Jun 24, 2007 03:52 PM Permalink
Well said Ibrahim...Most hindus are our great friends....they are good God fearing people...Here we are talking about fanatics who are against everything.... :-)
MOST OF THE MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS ARE CONVERTING BACK TO Hindu Dharma since they found the peace there. The Yoga, Pranaayaama, Dhyaana (Meditation) and many more are the tools that Hindu Dharma gave to humanity and people are using them for the peace and satisfaction in their lives. It is the science and does not allow any delusion by itself. HinduDharma does not go by a book. It goes by what is good for humanity and the universe. If you have any questions --- start using these tools first. Be HINDU. Read Hindu scriptures like Vedas, Upnishads, Bhaagavad Geetaa and many more. You will find true peace and love.
RE:Hindu Dharma is accepted by all
by Ibrahim Sheik on Jun 24, 2007 03:44 PM Permalink
THE FACT IS THOUSANDS ARE LEAVING HINDUISM >>>
There are a lot of Hindu Saints in India who talk about Yoga & Life Style or Whatever, but nobody has the Charisma or Magnetism to hold people in Hinduism... That's why Thousands of Hindus are leaving Hinduism... But for the past 30 years of my life I have never seen a Convincing debate from a Hindu Expert to justify the Truth in Hindusim.. I think Hinduism lacks Focus and confuses its followers... That's why people go away from Hinduism, very very few of them leave Islam...
RE:NOT MUSLIMS....KRISHNA PREACHED LIES...
by GS on Jun 24, 2007 03:42 PM Permalink
I would suggest you to read the great epic called Mahabharatha and enlighten yourself.
RE:NOT MUSLIMS....KRISHNA PREACHED LIES...
by Gazanfar Z Azmi on Jun 24, 2007 03:46 PM Permalink
would you like to say what I have writtten is wrong...
RE:muslims cannot handle truth
by Ibrahim Sheik on Jun 24, 2007 03:45 PM Permalink
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LAW & CREATIVITY
In Koran, every reader is given Independence to research and get benefitted, but not allowed to ADD or DELETE a verse.. I will tell you the difference between Hindus using Vedas and Muslims using Koran... Let us take the example of FOOT BALL game, the creator of the game, tells us clearly the Dos and DONTs of the game, then it is upto the Players to learn creatively by abiding the Rules.. That is what Islam says, it does not say don't do anything creative, but it says abide by the rules... In case of Hinduism, there are No clear Dos and DONTs, which meand somebosy will change the rules of the game by Handling the Ball... This is not Creativity, this is Breaking the Rules... So my suggestion, you have full Independence to Research Vedas but you dont have any authority to change, if you beleive it is a Word of God.. Hope you Understand the Difference between Creativity and Breaking a Rule... Ibrahi
RE:muslims cannot handle truth
by marigold on Jun 24, 2007 03:55 PM Permalink
Satanic verses is a book written by Salman Rushdie... that is why it is called Satanic Verses...hahahaha
RE:muslims can lie
by naveed md ahmed on Jun 24, 2007 03:41 PM Permalink
First you Ass Holes Try to Clean The shit Among your selves then try to point out on other religion for details read below lines.
Mumbai: Hindu teachers sprinkled cow urine on low-caste students to purify them and drive away evil, reports said yesterday, in a country where millions of people remain oppressed at the bottom of the ancient Hindu caste system.
Upper-caste headteacher Sharad Kaithade ordered the ritual after taking over from a lower-caste predecessor at a school in a remote village in the western state of Maharashtra earlier this month, the Times of India reported.
He told an upper-caste colleague to spray cow urine in a cleansing ceremony as the students were taking an examination, wetting their faces and their answer sheets, the newspaper said.
"She said you'll study well after getting purified," student Rajat Washnik was quoted as saying by the CNN-IBN news channel. Students said they felt humiliated.
Hinduism reveres the cow, and its dung is used in the countryside as both a disinfectant and as fuel.
RE:RE:muslims can lie
by Ibrahim Sheik on Jun 24, 2007 03:37 PM Permalink
Wow that is a Good Work, but Missing the Context.. Let me give you an example of your Stupidity.. Using Hindu Scriptures... We all know MahaBharatha, Krishna asks Arjuna "KILL YOUR GRAND FATHER" can I Cut only that line from GITA and Conclude that, Hinduism allows killing of Grand Father ??? It is stupidity to just take a few lines here and there and come to a conclusion.. I have to read the entire GITA to understand why Krishna asks Arjuna to kill his Grand Father.. Similarly you have to read the Context of SURA in KORAN before Interpretations... Good Attempt to Defame Islam, but Truth will not be Hidden and will grow Dynamically, irrespective of your comments
Muslims do not need credentials from anyone to prove their true partiotism to their motherland. They are more Patriot than followers of any other dominant religions of India. Please don't make them bear the burden of partition. Try to see them as your fellow natives. Where do you want us go from here. To Pakistan where our forefathers didn't want to migrate amid repeating calls. And as for Islam, have you ever thought why Islam is the most targeted religion today even as it is the fastest growing one. It is because of the strength of its faith and believers. There can be some culprits like Davood Ibrahim. But the majority are peace loving people. Although we believe staunchly in our Islamic faith, it doesnt make us fall prey for sabotaging groups because we feel that our motherland, India offer us equal opportunities despite we have become the most backward community groups, still we remain incredibly tolerate. Islam never advocates violence. Come on!!! Be realistic to judge on Islam after you learn it objectively. Mohamed Abdul Jaleel. Founder of bavabathulHind, the only website dedicated to change the stereotypic view of Arabic speaking communities towards motherland, India. www.geocities.com/indigate/ www.geocities.com/akhbarhind/ Mohamed Abdul Jaleel, Mass Communication Student, Kuwait University
RE:RE:Patriotic And Faithful Muslims
by Robin on Jun 24, 2007 03:42 PM Permalink
First you Ass Holes Try to Clean The shit Among your selves then try to point out on other religion for details read below lines.
Mumbai: Hindu teachers sprinkled cow urine on low-caste students to purify them and drive away evil, reports said yesterday, in a country where millions of people remain oppressed at the bottom of the ancient Hindu caste system.
Upper-caste headteacher Sharad Kaithade ordered the ritual after taking over from a lower-caste predecessor at a school in a remote village in the western state of Maharashtra earlier this month, the Times of India reported.
He told an upper-caste colleague to spray cow urine in a cleansing ceremony as the students were taking an examination, wetting their faces and their answer sheets, the newspaper said.
"She said you'll study well after getting purified," student Rajat Washnik was quoted as saying by the CNN-IBN news channel. Students said they felt humiliated.
Hinduism reveres the cow, and its dung is used in the countryside as both a disinfectant and as fuel.
RE:Patriotic And Faithful Muslims
by marigold on Jun 24, 2007 03:28 PM Permalink
I am ready to convert to Hinduism. But I have few questions... 1) Will I be a Brahmin or a shudra ? 2) Will I be given reservation ? 3) What gods do I worship? 4) Do I have to believe in the book based on two wars?
RE:Patriotic And Faithful Muslims
by marigold on Jun 24, 2007 03:33 PM Permalink
What about reservation ? Can you guarantee me that ? Can the already existing shudras call themselves as brahmins and become brahmins ? How can I ?
RE:RE:Patriotic And Faithful Muslims
by Gazanfar Z Azmi on Jun 24, 2007 03:41 PM Permalink
look at all the hindus .. now they want to become shudra to take benefit of reservation...these hypocrites....
RE:RE:Patriotic And Faithful Muslims
by Vinay Gupta on Jun 24, 2007 03:39 PM Permalink
Do you want to become Shudra? So for reservation you can leave Islam?
RE:RE:RE:Patriotic And Faithful Muslims
by Gazanfar Z Azmi on Jun 24, 2007 03:39 PM Permalink
pankaj,take a dalit or shudra in your lap and say this...
RE:Patriotic And Faithful Muslims
by Vinay Gupta on Jun 24, 2007 03:37 PM Permalink
Mari, Come to AryaSamaj. you need to follow the book Vedas only. As per your Karma( ability) you will be given work.
I hope now you will come back to your ancesstors religion i.e. Vedic ( religion was the concept brought by you)
RE:Patriotic And Faithful Muslims
by rajesh patil on Jun 24, 2007 04:09 PM Permalink
by marigold on Jun 24, 2007 03:28 PM I am ready to convert to Hinduism. But I have few questions... 1) Will I be a Brahmin or a shudra ? 2) Will I be given reservation ? 3) What gods do I worship? 4) Do I have to believe in the book based on two wars?
Namaskaar Marigold: answer to your questions: 1) Varna (Shrudra, Vaishya etc) of Hidu Dharma goes by Karma (actions). Hence, if you are teaching or studying then u are a Bramhin, If you are in Business then u are a Vaishya, If u are protecting nation, people etc.. then Kshatreeya and if u r serving, then u r Shudra. THERE IS NO LEVEL DIFFERENCE. ALL LEVELS ARE EQUAL, HIGHEST AND CONSIDERED TO BE SPIRITUALLY SUPREME. Hindu Dharma does not tell that prayers of only men are listened by Almighty and Women dont have right to prey. Rather God is seen in the form of women too. 2) Reservations: Depends where u stay. If in Hindustaan (India), then Govt rules will decide. 3) Gods: There is NO COMPULSION IN HINDU DHARMA for worshipping any particular God. THIS IS THE BEAUTY OF HINDU DHARMA. IT IS PERFECTLY DEMOCRATIC. You may want to worship Durga, Ganesh, Shiva, or any other. And behold --- YOU CAN BE AN ATHIEST BUT STILL CAN BE HINDU !! NO RELIGION IN THE UNIVERSE GRANTS THIS !!!! 4) BOOKS: HINDU DHARMA DOES NOT GO BY A SINGLE BOOK. YOU might refer to Bhaagavad Geetaa, Vedas, Upnishads etc. Each has a specific importance. You cant use book on Chemistry when u want to know about Physics. You need to study a book on Physics
RE:Patriotic And Faithful Muslims
by marigold on Jun 24, 2007 03:29 PM Permalink
Hindus are the richest people. Hahaha... I wonder how India became house to the quarter of worlds poor.
RE:Patriotic And Faithful Muslims
by marigold on Jun 24, 2007 03:46 PM Permalink
Hahaha...No hindu in India lives in slums hahahah all are prosperous and rich....hahahahaha....I wonder why some hindus were eating rocks in Orrisa ...
RE:RE:Patriotic And Faithful Muslims
by Gazanfar Z Azmi on Jun 24, 2007 03:38 PM Permalink
ARNOLD NO COMMENTS ON YOUR ILL-RESAERCHED REPORTS...INDIVIDUAL REPORTS ARE MOTIVATED AND NEED NOT BE REPLIED BY ANYONE.Ignore>>>>>
RE:Patriotic And Faithful Muslims
by Ibrahim Sheik on Jun 24, 2007 03:38 PM Permalink
Ha Ha Ha, A Beggar Commenting on a Fakir.....H ah Ha ... Richie Rich Hindus ??? Ha H ah Ha ....
RE:Patriotic And Faithful Muslims
by Jaleel Choorappulakkal on Jun 24, 2007 03:44 PM Permalink
From my own experience of having studied for more than 10 years with with students from different parts of world especially from Arab world, it is utterly absurd to say Muslims lag behind others in fields of science and technology outside India. It may be true that their contributions are not widely mentioned, but it does not mean that they don't have any. Even though I don't believe in the widely held conspiracy theory behind this situation, it is true that western coloneal powers who still occupy a many parts of Arab Muslim world, donn't want them to prosper and make inroads in such fields. Mohamed Abdul Jaleel, Mass Communication Student, Kuwait University www.geocities.com/indigate/ www.geocities.com/akhbarhind/