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direct election to the president
by thomas on Jun 22, 2007 04:30 PM  Permalink 

come on now some one take the lead in requesting an amemdment to the constitution. if not we will have the similar situation again in future. we will miss capable people occupying this position again. Give the people of india the power to elect their president and not the politicians.

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God save India.
by unni krishnan nair on Jun 22, 2007 04:30 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The whole episode of Presidential election is seickening this time given the fact that an Italian with dubious distinction of lying her name and ancestry is deciding as to who should be our President.

So far we had a puppet PM in MMS. Henceforth we are going to have a puppet President too. Bless the Italian.
And God save India.

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RE:God save India.
by unni krishnan nair on Jun 22, 2007 04:33 PM  Permalink


it should read *sickening*

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don't need
by C K DEVAN on Jun 22, 2007 04:30 PM  Permalink 

I think India don't need the post of President as 99% of powers belonging to PM, SC & other ministers etc.

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agitation
by leela vasu on Jun 22, 2007 04:28 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

during independence it is "BRITISH BHARATH CHODO"
but now it shold be "SONIA BHARATH CHODO"

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RE:agitation
by Cutlet Gravy on Jun 23, 2007 01:12 AM  Permalink


Nothing wrong with what you said Leela Vasu.

The meaning is well conveyed to us.

Thhank you.

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RE:agitation
by Amit Arora on Jun 22, 2007 04:33 PM  Permalink
Then it should
Bharat Sonia Chhodo

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RE:agitation
by Joyee Funee on Jun 22, 2007 04:35 PM  Permalink
Shai hai boss

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RE:agitation
by Amit Arora on Jun 22, 2007 04:33 PM  Permalink
Is Sonia is your Aunt or do u stay with sonia ...........very confidentaly said Sonia is not doing anything.............

No congress has guts to speak against Sonia ......even though if she is doing wrong.

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proof
by nitn on Jun 22, 2007 04:28 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

in 2003, media was saying BJP is the people;s choice.. we know how wrong they were in assesing people's choice...
BECAUSE..for our upper class and english speacking journos and public, PEOPLE mean only the top 20% of the citizenry, which have access to media and power center.
Kalaam may well be everyones choice.. but how can a journo make such a overriding assumption without any statistical proof ?
and you all guys..please speak for yourself..dont say kalam is choice of india.. he may be choice of city dwellers..but dont speak without proof.
anyway, if you think he is a great person, he is better utilized as a head of some science establishment rather than a rubber stamp post of President

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RE:proof
by C K DEVAN on Jun 22, 2007 04:30 PM  Permalink
all the news creating by MEDIA, not by people

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RE:proof
by Amit Arora on Jun 22, 2007 04:33 PM  Permalink
do people create news?

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Cool Down Friends
by Ashoka on Jun 22, 2007 04:27 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

It is a good and informative article. But it also expreses helplessness on the part of Indians. I also observed so much of unrest in the mind of all who have participated in the discussion. Good to see so much conern for the country. But friends can you just imagine any value additive product from the president's office other than the talk of prestige of the country , highest office,first citizen like stuffs. I do not want to demean that post as I also love my country , but the fact is that the post is ornamental. Rather we should be thankful to that Great Gyani who could dare to add some value to the famous POSTAL BILL.
Hence do not disturb your peace of mind over a post which does not add value to counry's growth. It is high time to realize that all such processes should be abolished which do not add value. In that way everybody must be feelingthat the entire political system should be ovehauled. Why a president can not be elected directly by the people of India? If the cost saved through the present electoral college is costing more to the country in long run then I disapprove this system as a citizen of INDIA. And I think I am sharing the feeling of many.
Thanks to all and best wishes for INDIA

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RE:Cool Down Friends
by Kaushik Chatterjee on Jun 22, 2007 04:42 PM  Permalink
Here are the reasons why the President of India cannot be elected direct by the people of India :
(1) Firstly, in a country following the Cabinet system of Government, the office of titular Chief Executive is a technical one, to the extent that his duties are largely prescribed by other authorities (usually by the Legislature), which requires specific competence for the performance of its duties from the incumbent. Very few voters can be competent to judge wisely of the technical abilities of the candidates for any particular office of this type, having specific, limited and defined functions.
(2) Secondly, if the direct election of the President were adopted, the Presidential candidate who has to carry on an election campaign from one corner of the country to another will certainly be put up by some party or the other, which may cause political excitement and generate party feelings. Thus the man elected to the Presidential office through this means will never be able to forget his party affiliations. So the ideal of getting a non-party man outside the turmoil of party passions and reasonably respected by all factions to assume the role of the head of the State will be defeated. Further, as India is almost a sub-continent with crores of enfranchised citizens, it would be impossible to provide an electoral machinery for the purpose of smooth and successful Presidential election.
(3) Lastly, a directly elected Chief Executive may not be content with his position of a mere

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RE:Cool Down Friends
by Ashoka on Jun 22, 2007 04:54 PM  Permalink
Dear Chatterjee
Thanks for the arguments. But these are for the sake of argument only.
1.The citizen of country who understands the technicalities of the MP/MLA, can not undersatnd the technical requirement in the canidate for president post- Not convincing. A Pranab Mukherjee , who has not been elected , can understand the specific requirement - Not agreed.
2.All these mishappening are taking place now also. Party line politics is alredy there in the game . Saying impossible is easy to adopt than adopting the change.


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RE:Cool Down Friends
by Praiti Gupt on Jun 22, 2007 05:36 PM  Permalink
Dear Ashoka

In fact, one of the most potent reasons why the President of India cannot be elected direct by the people of India is this :
A directly elected Chief Executive may not be content with his position of a mere constitutional head and can claim to derive his authority directly from the people. So, if he wanted to assume real power, it would lead to a constitutional deadlock and an inevitable clash with the Cabinet or real executive. This would definitely produce a confusion of responsibility.
Such an eventuality had happened when under the French Constitution of 1848 the President of the French Republic, Louis Napoleon, was elected by the direct vote of the people, and by exploiting this system, he had overthrown the Republic to establish the empire with himself as emperor. To prevent the recurrence of such a contingency, the French people in their later constitutions discredited and abandoned the system of electing the head of State by the direct vote of the people.

Now you may ponder a bit. Regards.

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Direct election of the President to fulfil the will of the people
by keshav acharya on Jun 22, 2007 04:25 PM  Permalink 

K.G.Acharya

Tel. 25119890, Cell:9892474984

Sir,

The wide gap between the opinions of the people and those of politicians in the country is against democratic spirit. This gap is clear in the choice of the candidate for the next President of the country.In various surveys and polls held by many sections of the media, the present incumbent, A P J Abdul Kalam was the choice of the greatest number of people.
Common man wishes that the president of India should not be a party man. He does not expect the President to be a rubber stamp of the party in power. We had such Presidents in the past. One was V. V. Giri and another, Fakhruddin Ali Ahmed, who signed on the proclamation of emergency in the midnight of June 26,1975 at the instance of the deposed prime minister Indira Gandhi, who was unseated by the Allahabad High Court for corrupt electoral practices. Indira Gandhi had not consulted even her cabinet colleagues before taking the signature of the President.
People wish such sorry history should not repeat.
In democracy, will of the people must be supreme. Consequently, since our elected representatives have no consideration for it, they must demand an amendment to the Constitution to provide for direct election of the President. For this purpose, there should be an electoral college of people, who are educated at least to the level of the SSC i.e. standard X.
This college must be considered above the Parliament and referendum taken in this college must be considered

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See politicians' Arrogance!!!
by ems nnn on Jun 22, 2007 04:24 PM  Permalink 

The uneducated politicians who started their lives by pelting stones and destroying public property do not care for people. How angry they are when they think public are interfering their affairs!!!!!!!!!

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Jago .......BHARAT..............Jago
by Amit Arora on Jun 22, 2007 04:23 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

1947................ BRITISH LEFT INDIA


2007................ AN ITALIAN START RUNNING INDIA BY HER PUPPET PM & PRESIDENT

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RE:Jago .......BHARAT..............Jago
by JaiHind on Jun 22, 2007 04:37 PM  Permalink
Dont worry. Even the Great Astrologer Nastradamous has predicted that Congress will become non existant and BJP will rule India. Visit the following weblink http://www.indianexpress.com/res/web/pIe/ie/daily/19991011/iex11078.html

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RE:Jago .......BHARAT..............Jago
by Parthiban Subramanian on Jun 22, 2007 04:39 PM  Permalink
I agree Amit. This is too much from Sonia.. Good that she didn't become a PM

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RE:Jago .......BHARAT..............Jago
by Anish Moolan Mathews on Jun 22, 2007 05:05 PM  Permalink
Before 2007 A Pakistani become India's Deputy Prime Minister...Jago ..India...

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RE:Jago .......BHARAT..............Jago
by nambiar evp on Jun 22, 2007 05:17 PM  Permalink
Mr. Amit Arora,
I read your article through net. You are 100% right. Now an Italian started running India by her puppet PM & President. This is very unfortunate.

There is no choice in front of the people of India, he/she has to choose one out of the candidates, who stand in the election, whether they are corrupted or not. Suppose all the candidates are corrupted, then what is the choice infront of the people? They have to choose one out of them. This is very unfortunate.

There was a news in the paper that in 2035 Muslims will be in majority in India. Then out of them one Mushraff will born and will run the Country. He will catch and put all the Indian politicians in the jail, saying that now we are in majority and we will run the Government. At that time no Hindu can raise any question. You know there was a news in IBN7 that in Haryana a lady gave birth to 23 children and Govt. could see it but thre is no action against it. What is on top is the Nation. There should be only one rule to its citizens, irrespective of caste and religion. Rules should not be on the basis of religion.
In Afganistan thre was a yellow card system to Hindus, it should be put outside the poket of everyone. Naturally no help from the government will be there to them. Similarly all pundits of J & K are thrown out of the state and they have become rikshaw pullers in Delhi. The government speaks about minorities, however, where is the importance of minority in J & K? The reservation t

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