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Maybe the Cops will name some Politician when put on narco drugs
by Hans Solo on Jun 14, 2007 01:22 PM  Permalink 


So did Nithari guys or Telgi who were put on narco gave their acceptance to do so?

No criminals who had many things to hide will ever give his acceptance for a Narco Test.

This itself proves that these Encounter hired goons had many things criminal to hide.

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the truth part4
by mahendra on Jun 14, 2007 01:16 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Media immediately cried foul and created all round sympathy for Jahan. Her college colleagues and family cried while giving statements before the camera. For almost a week, Modi and his Government endured this media trial. Then came the confirmation of Jahan's involvement by none other than the highest police officials of the Congress-ruled Maharastra. A senior police officer of Jammu and Kashmir, too, confirmed it.


As for the Sohrabuddin encounter case, not only was he an extortionist, but he also had terrorist links. During police interrogation he had conceded his connection with Dawood Ibrahim. It happens only in India that an encounter of a criminal like Sohrabuddin is mourned by the media, portraying him as innocent.


In fact the anti-Modi brigade, which includes anti-India elements, die-hard political opponents, and human right activists is in the habit of filing Public Interest Litigations and, of course, the few media personalities, who have vowed to demonise Modi and demolish him, are active in the forefront.


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RE:the truth part4
by Hans Solo on Jun 14, 2007 01:19 PM  Permalink
Good attempt in trying to prove a crime as a Godly act.

If I could interrogate you , even you will accept that you had links with terrorists.

Police officers who had motives of killing the guy can subject him to any level of torture to take a confession.



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RE:the truth part4
by partha bhattacharya on Jun 14, 2007 01:24 PM  Permalink
Why police should kill someone without a reason? police is also human beings, they are not terroists and not killing innocent people, they are to protect the law and order, but yes Mahendra has given a good statistics.

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RE:the truth part4
by Hans Solo on Jun 14, 2007 01:28 PM  Permalink
What makes u give clean chit to police?

Then this definitely contradicts all the above statistics - whether UP or Gujurat, isn't police doing fake encounters to please their political masters?

So u mean fake encounters done by police is not a criminal act?

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RE:the truth part4
by partha bhattacharya on Jun 14, 2007 01:35 PM  Permalink
Encounter can be original or fake, it should be only questioned if killing innocent and not terrorists/criminals, we need a crime and terror free society

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RE:RE:the truth part4
by on Jun 14, 2007 01:34 PM  Permalink
IF A CRIMINAL IS KILLED IN A FAKE ENCOUNTER WATS YOUR BLOODY PROBLEM ???

WAS HE A SAINT ??? IS YOUR FATHER GONNA GET THE GOONS ???

THEN WHY SHUD THE POLICE BE GIVEN GUNS...GIVE THEM A STICK ...!!!



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RE:the truth part4
by mahendra on Jun 14, 2007 01:28 PM  Permalink
was Sohrabuddin innocent?comeon u people are sick because of u people congress is going to remove kalam from president's post

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RE:the truth part4
by Hans Solo on Jun 14, 2007 01:34 PM  Permalink
Wat about the other witness "Tukaram" i guess who was put to death because he saw this criminal acts of these police officers?

Wat about the wife of Shorabbuddin?

Maybe some day u would be a witness or neighbour of some fake encounter. So will u justify that the police should kill u cause they are doing good for the country

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RE:RE:the truth part4
by on Jun 14, 2007 01:37 PM  Permalink
OH REALLY HANS...WAT ABT THE INNCOENTS KILLED IN MUMBAI LOCAL BLASTS ???

WAT ABT THE LAKHS KILLED IN KASHMIR ???

LOOK AT THE DAMN STATS...HERE WE ARE TALKIN ABT A HARDCORE CRIMINAL ...NOT AN INNOCENT U BLOODY IDIOT

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RE:the truth part4
by Hans Solo on Jun 14, 2007 01:43 PM  Permalink
U mean just that justify u to kill any other man.

So others are not sissy and if everyone is to justify a wrong.. just imagine wat kind of place u would be living in.

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RE:the truth part4
by Kaikulangara Seshaiyer on Jun 14, 2007 01:59 PM  Permalink
Dear Hans Solo; Try to be practical, don't dream like the Film "Sholay" in which Thakur says, "Muje Gabbar Chahiye, Aubi Jinda". What you will do with a Jinda Gabbar. He will escape from the Jail and again create chaos and poor police will have a tough time tracing him out? Those with criminal background should punished either by the Judiciary (if it really works in India honestly) otherwise such encounters are very much effective in reducing the number of Goondas/criminals/terrorists.

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RE:RE:the truth part4
by Hans Solo on Jun 14, 2007 01:30 PM  Permalink
And there are so many hard-criminals available why a communal police officer from a communal state reporting a communal CM

picked up a criminal from another community???

If he look around he will find tons in his own community.

Would u have justified this act then?

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RE:the truth part4
by Hans Solo on Jun 14, 2007 01:35 PM  Permalink
No we should have Police officers but we should definitely not support those who in Uniform are going against law

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RE:RE:RE:the truth part4
by on Jun 14, 2007 01:33 PM  Permalink
HANS ... THEN WE SHUD NOT HAVE ANY POLICE ...WE HAVE ALL DONE SOME WRONGS...LET THE CRIMINALS ROAM AROUND...!!!



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RE:the truth part4
by Hans Solo on Jun 14, 2007 01:29 PM  Permalink
Even you or me or everyone else are not innocent like a child.

That doesn't mean for any of our sin, a self-style policeman to get promotion can kill anyone.

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RE:the truth part4
by on Jun 14, 2007 01:33 PM  Permalink
REALLY HANS...WHY AINT AFZAL HANGED? ??? WAS HE INNOCENT ??? WHY IS ABU SALEM CONTESTING FOR ELECTIONS ??

IS THIS OUR JUDICIARY...YOU BLOODY PIG...!!!

WHEN YOUR NEAR AND DEAR ONES ARE BLOWN TO SMITHEREENS IN A BOMB BLAST THEN PLEASE DONT GOTO THE POLICE...

GOTO THESE CRIMINALS FOR HELP...!!!

PATHETIC CREEP

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RE:RE:the truth part4
by Hans Solo on Jun 14, 2007 01:46 PM  Permalink
If I had to abuse u i know much better ways dude.



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RE:the truth part4
by on Jun 14, 2007 01:20 PM  Permalink
Eye opening facts ...!!!

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RE:the truth part4
by Old Monk on Jun 14, 2007 01:57 PM  Permalink
Mr Mahendra,
The media is doing its job and there is no stopping it.Unfortunately it is the other way round and some people who in the name of terrorism have something to hide cry foul over it.
It is now clear and admitted by the Modi govt,that the encounter was fake and hence needed investigation by the CID.
Initial investigations has revealed shorabuddin and his wife were were captured and killed in cold blood.It is now alleged that jahan,pathan were also killed likewise.
It should be noted elected Govts cant take short cuts and do summary executions.We have a Judicial system and it is for them to decide about the guilt of a person.
The fakes within the force shouldnt be glorified,it is now a known fact Vanzara and others did a contract killing for love of money and medals.


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CRIMINALS ARE CRIMINALS
by on Jun 14, 2007 01:16 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies


SEE GUYS...CRIMINALS ARE CRIMINALS...THEY HAVE NO RELIGION...

I BELIEVE ANY HARDCORE CRIMINAL SHOULD BE KILLED BE IT HINDU OR MUSLIM...

WE CAN BE THEIR NEXT TARGETS ... RELIGION IS JUST A FAITH...IT HAS NO SCIENTIFIC THEORY OR PROOF...

SO LETS NOT MAKE OUR FAITH LARGER THAN OUR LIVES AND HUMANITY...!!!

WE ARE HUMANS AND WE SHUD HAVE HUMANITY WITH HUMANS...NOT CRIMINALS AND TERRORISTS...THEY HAVE NO RELIGION EXCEPT MONEY AND MURDER...!!!

DO THESE BUGGER SHOW HUMANITY TOWARDS THE INNOCENTS ???? THEY KILL WITHOUT ANY MERCY...SO WHY SHUD THEY BE SPARED ???

IF WE WANT A SAFE ENVIRONMENT WE GOTTA REMOVE THE CANCER FROM THE SYSTEM B4 IT SPREADS...!!!

THE CANCER IS THE CRIMINALS...!!!

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RE:CRIMINALS ARE CRIMINALS
by Raj on Jun 14, 2007 01:24 PM  Permalink
well say

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the truth part 3
by mahendra on Jun 14, 2007 01:15 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Here is some data from National Human Right Commission (NHRC).


"According to an NHRC report, the worst-hit State is UP with 68 fake encounters in 2003-04 and 54 in 2004-05. The figures were nine and five, respectively, for Andhra while Gujarat reported one in 2004-05. But as Balgopal points out, the figures do not reflect ground reality as the NHRC only investigates instances brought to its notice."


Here is another interesting statistic from NHRC on fake encounter cases disposed of during 2004-2005. Gujarat had just one fake encounter while the Congress-ruled Andhra Pradesh had five, SP ruled UP had 54 and the Congress ruled Haryana had four. While Gujarat has only five encounter cases pending, Andhra Pradesh had 21, Congress ruled Maharashtra had 29, UP had 175, the Capital 18 despite Sonia Gandhi and Manmohan Singh at the helm and the Congress ruled Uttaranchal had 14.


It is for anybody to see that in fake encounter cases Gujarat has just one. But let me give the example of Ishrat Jahan, a terrorist who was liquidated along with Lashkar-e-Toiba men at the entry point of Gujarat, a few years back.


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RE:the truth part 3
by Hans Solo on Jun 14, 2007 01:25 PM  Permalink
Citing other peoples crime doesn't wash away one own's records.

And your tall claim that Gujarat had only 1 fake encounter is absolutely baseless.

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the truth part 2
by mahendra on Jun 14, 2007 01:14 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

By all accounts, Modi is the best Chief Minister, Gujarat has had, and may go down in history as such. Yet, the media and political opponents have demonised him. The fact remains that he quenched the riots after Godhra, killing more than 200 rioters, mostly Hindus. Compare him with former Congress Chief Minister Madhav Singh Solanki. In 1969 riots continued unabated for six months in Gujarat. Compare it with the biggest massacre in India after partition in Delhi in 1984 when more than 4,000 Sikhs were massacred with no police intervention. Rajiv Gandhi was in command, Narsimha Rao was the Home Minister, a number of Congressman were involved which was later established in court.


Also compare it with what former Chief Minister of West Bengal SS Ray did in the late 60s and early 70s when more than 4,000 misguided Naxalites, who happened to be brilliant students, were brutally killed by the State police.


Further, compare it with the Left, which came to power after the Congress in West Bengal. They picked the local Congress leaders of eminence one-by-one and killed them publically to maximise the fear deterrent among the masses.


The Nandigram killings look like a Gestapo operation, as they did annihilating hundreds of innocent villagers. These are incidents rarely discussed. But the Gujarat encounter overshadows everything. It shows the conspiracy of the ruling set-up.



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RE:the truth part 2
by Rajesh Patel on Jun 14, 2007 01:24 PM  Permalink
great information. Gujarat is the only place for everybody including media to show that this state has no laws.

And everytime, they are getting -ve response from Supreme Judge.

Hahaha!! Bechare MEDIA & Foolish Cong and yes I can't forget Prakash Karat & Ms Karat for blaming Narendra Modi as Hitler. In Nandigram, they proved that Modi is better than them.

Rajesh Patel

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RE:the truth part 2
by Navratan Sethia on Jun 14, 2007 04:41 PM  Permalink
why you give importance such anti national anti indian elements(KARAT GANG) their credit in public AS A2O/ RS GOONDA.SIMPLE VILLAGER CALL THEIR WORKER GOONDA ELEMENTS.

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the truth
by mahendra on Jun 14, 2007 01:12 PM  Permalink 

The fake encounter controversy in Gujarat has peaked and is taking its rounds on the plateau of political arena. It was started by a non-descript vernacular journalist who changed his job 14 times in a career of 13 years. Since it had potential to demonise Narendra Modi, it gathered momentum. From the days of Godhra, he has been the target of all political opponents, including some mighty media tycoons. The timing was most opportune - Assembly elections are due by year-end.


On the other hand Narendra Modi, as Chief Minister is high achiever in almost all developmental indices. This has also been acknowledged by the Rajiv Gandhi Foundation, Planning Commission and the people of Gujarat. It has clearly been established by BJP's astonishing victory in Panchayat and corporation elections. The percentage of Below Poverty Line (BPL) people in the State has decreased and the Government is considering reduction in wheat and rice quota sanctioned by the Central Government.



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real terrorists
by mahendra on Jun 14, 2007 01:07 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

On 6th May NDTV's 'we the people' program was discussing 'encounters' in the background of Gujarat encounter. All questions raised by the anchor (burkha dutt) were intended to generate sympathy for terrorists, and demonise the police and the middle class public who are still concerned about national interest. Even though the topic has relevance to national security, the idea of national interest was not even mentioned once by Burkha Dutt. NDTV has all the sympathy for terrorists like Ishrat Jahan and no concern for national security! This behaviour fits in well for a terrorist front organisation. A thorough investigation is required to expose the links between NDTV and foreign powers

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RE:real terrorists
by Hari Prasad on Jun 14, 2007 01:24 PM  Permalink
Absolutely. All the news readers read as if they are supporting terrorists and their families and not the victims. I have n't seen ndtv or even cnnibn goes to the home of terrorists vistims and take intervies and air it. Burkha Dutt's intentions are hightly questionable. Her inclinication towards terrorism is legandary. She supports terrorists for nothing. god knows. Even Rajdeep sardesai's evengelical zeal when he talks about terrorism and his support for terrorissts and their family is worth investigating.

Not a single soul in the news media suppoted armed forces or polices as they are scarred of political pushes .



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RE:RE:real terrorists
by Rajesh Patel on Jun 14, 2007 01:30 PM  Permalink
They should be invited by Modi Govt for such shows for the sake of families who have been victimised by such so called INNOCENT TERRORIST.

Rajesh Patel

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RE:real terrorists
by on Jun 14, 2007 01:10 PM  Permalink
BURKHA DUTT...!!! SHE IS A SICKO...!!!

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RE:real terrorists
by Rajesh Patel on Jun 14, 2007 01:28 PM  Permalink
She must marry with Afzal who has been given Death. This type of shows always ONE SIDED. Never watch such program.

Rajesh Patel

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RE:real terrorists
by patriotic indian on Jun 14, 2007 01:49 PM  Permalink
i pray that terrorist should kill family members of media person & human rights comission. then they will understand the reallity.

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RE:real terrorists
by RAJ on Jun 14, 2007 01:43 PM  Permalink
BARKHA is a Pro-Rs 25/-and one hindi song. She will do any thing

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GUJARAT KNOWS HOW TO HANDLE CRIMINALS
by on Jun 14, 2007 01:04 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies


GUJARAT KNOWS HOW TO HANDLE THESE CRIMINALS...

I WONDER WHY THESE MUSLIMS ARE CRYING FOR A DEAD CRIMINAL...

JUST CAUSE HE WAS A MUSLIM SO ALL THESE MUSLIMS WILL REVOLT...THESE MUSLIMS HAVE ONLY ONE PRIORITY...THATS THEIR RELIGION...!!!

WAY TO GO MODI...

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RE:GUJARAT KNOWS HOW TO HANDLE CRIMINALS
by muneer abidi on Jun 14, 2007 01:05 PM  Permalink
hi on,
kya haal hain? enjoying weekend?

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RE:GUJARAT KNOWS HOW TO HANDLE CRIMINALS
by on Jun 14, 2007 01:09 PM  Permalink
baas yaar...same old life...nothin new...

wat abt u dude ??? hwoz life ???

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RE:GUJARAT KNOWS HOW TO HANDLE CRIMINALS
by muneer abidi on Jun 14, 2007 01:12 PM  Permalink
good , as usual..

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RE:GUJARAT KNOWS HOW TO HANDLE CRIMINALS
by Manoj Naik on Jun 14, 2007 01:20 PM  Permalink
Ok That man is criminal........His wife is also criminal...guilty should be hanged..who raped and murdered...

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RE:GUJARAT KNOWS HOW TO HANDLE CRIMINALS
by World Citizen on Jun 14, 2007 01:10 PM  Permalink
It seems this "on" doesn't have any job except to criticise muslims for every damn thing. Dude, stick to the subject. and let's have a constructive discussion.

Regards

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shoot'em....
by warren pinto on Jun 14, 2007 01:03 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

shoot those cops in an encounter!!!!!
tht's what they deserve!!!!

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RE:shoot'em....
by Joyee Funee on Jun 14, 2007 01:07 PM  Permalink
Shoot Afzal, Dawood, Sonia and Manmohan

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RE:shoot'em....
by on Jun 14, 2007 01:05 PM  Permalink
YEAH...??? SINCE THEY HAVE KILLED A HARDCORE CRIMINAL THEY SHUD BE KILLED...!!!

WAT IF YOUR FAMILY WAS BEING THREATENED BY THESE GOONS ???



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RE:shoot'em....
by Rajesh Patel on Jun 14, 2007 01:32 PM  Permalink
And take all the innocent teroorist to your home and get married your sist to him.

Is it OK???

Rajesh Patel

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RE:shoot'em....
by on Jun 14, 2007 01:06 PM  Permalink
WHY ISNT THAT BLOODY AFZAL NOT HANGED ????

WHY IS ABU SALEM CONTESTING FOR ELECTIONS FROM AZAMGARH...????

IS THIS WAT OUR STUPID JUDICIARY ALL ABOUT ???

CRIMINALS ARE NOT HUMANS...!!!

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RE:shoot'em....
by muneer abidi on Jun 14, 2007 01:09 PM  Permalink
on - itna ghussa achha nahi hai, go to jumeihrah today and take bath.

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RE:shoot'em....
by on Jun 14, 2007 01:11 PM  Permalink
HAHAHA...ARRE YAAR...I HAD A SHOWER...BLOODY RAINS ARE NOT COMING ONLY...THE DAMN HUMIDITY IS TOO MUCH

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