Let the tantri to perform poojas in all the Hindu temples as per the rituals and no bloody Government or politicians or any individual has any right to question. Who is Vayalar Ravi and his son and wife? If they have faith in hinduism, them they should have followed the procedures, instead of looking it other way. These bloody beggers wanted to politicise the things and get fame.
The tantri is creating divisions in the Indian society by practicing discrimination among Indian citizens. He is supporting the caste system that has destroyed India. He is in the same league as the christian and muslim fundamentalist. The tantis have invented the divide and rule policy that was followed by the Mughals and the British to rape and plunder India. Tantri should be put in jail alongside the terrorists for waging war against India.
RE:Tantris agression against India
by Saaji Bhaskaran on Jun 14, 2007 09:19 AM Permalink
I feel pity to people who take swords without understanding the situation. Most people make comments with a prejudiced mind, and the typical indian mind is such, they try to understand things only after they act. 20% knowledge and 80% action is what leading Indian people.
In this particular situation, what Tantri said is 100% correct. Being an obedient and satvic person, He has to follow the rituals and it's the rituals that's most important. Rituals can be changed provided there is consensus, in this case, it's the Govt to take action which the honourable Tantri said, whatever be it, He'll abide by it. He's to obey the rules and what's wrong in this?
RE:Tantris agression against India
by Kumar on Jun 14, 2007 09:25 AM Permalink
So having a hate filled heart makes one satvic? Maan, as per your definition of satvic, I want to be non-satvic.
RE:Tantris agression against India
by Saaji Bhaskaran on Jun 14, 2007 09:32 AM Permalink
Did He tell you, He hates Vylar Ravi? Good joke! Go to the temple, you will get to know how He's! He does this punyaha, on other occasions as well, somdays two-three times.you will say He hates all those people in those cases!!!
RE:Tantris agression against India
by Muralidharan Iyengar on Jun 14, 2007 09:21 AM Permalink
What tantri can do? Can he divide as british r mughals did? Change the rule if u can? Do blame him. He did what he felt was right. It may be wrong from others point of view. Leave these issues to the government. Stop foul mouthing.
RE:Tantris agression against India
by venkat ramana on Jun 14, 2007 09:17 AM Permalink
This is no caste system. it is a christian who with ulterior motives entered temple, and making lot of fuss.
RE:Tantris agression against India
by NASIM ZAMAN on Jun 14, 2007 09:15 AM Permalink
Please read history. The British may have exploited India (this is also debatable), but not the Mughals. They came to India, established an empire and ruled for 600 years. Among the Mughal empire is Akbar the great and Bahadur Shah Jafar, the poet Emperor who was captured and jailed in Rangoon for leading the first war of Independence in 1857. The Mughals came to India to live here, but not the British. The devide and rule policy was adopted by the British. It is still used by imperialist forces like the U.S.A. to exploit any nation.
RE:RE:Tantris agression against India
by Hirchand Panjwani on Jun 14, 2007 09:20 AM Permalink
Mughals 600 years?! Nasim bhai, unless Soniaji is a Mughal, I don't see how you could be right. Maybe we should all read history first before commenting here.
RE:Tantris agression against India
by Anurag Shrivastava on Jun 14, 2007 09:42 AM Permalink
Well - most of us actually thank the British from saving us from the fanatics ! Muslims are actually quite unhappy that when British left , they did not hand over the power to them. That, for Pakistan, is the unfinished agenda of partition.
The British has signs on restaurants saying 'dogs and Indians are not allowed', shall we respect and obey such a law? The racist South African whites did not allow blacks to play in the South African national cricket team, shall we respect and obey such a law? Mahatma Gandhi got thrown out a train even though he had a valid ticket simply because he was brown, shall we respect and obey such a law? The laws that discrimate should be changed. Let every person be allowed to enter any place of worship be it a temple, gurudwara, a mosque ot a church. India cannot be a civilized country we we have such blatant discrimination.
RE:Stop discrimination now!
by Ravi on Jun 14, 2007 09:36 AM Permalink
Hi Kumar
Basically tantri has permitted Ravi' son
But what he has done is purification.
When temple was not permitting Yesudass no body bothered about this. Now once the powerful politician comes into picture all these guys start talking!!! IT is power and Money
GOD lives everywhere and he does not need any purification
But a brahmin cannot recite manthras if he is not sure of purity of surroundings
For eg. even if brahmin take bath he will recite the "manthra snana". So even if he is impure he request GOS to purify him
Secondly at the end of puja he will do "kshamapana Stothram". So even if he is 100% sure of his puja he still plead pardon with the GOD if there is some mistake in his puja.
So all these things can be understood by people who know about this
It is unfortunate that today people think that they know everything and start commenting
RE:Stop discrimination now!
by Kumar on Jun 14, 2007 09:42 AM Permalink
Sounds like the Brahmin you have described is suffering from obsessive complusive disorder (OCD). He needs to see a psychatrist or any other good doctor.
RE:Rediff deviding the society
by Kumar on Jun 14, 2007 09:02 AM Permalink
I think the tantris are diving the society by practicing descrimination and hate. The tantri, the missionaries and the mullas are all cousins from the middle east.
RE:Rediff deviding the society
by Mohammad kashif on Jun 14, 2007 09:12 AM Permalink
i think u r sick yaar this is your internal matter why u people dragging mullas and cristian.by putting dirt on other face your dirt can not be reduce u should clean ur face except of defame others Little master was saying absolutly right.Rediff are making money by these kind of articles.
RE:Rediff deviding the society
by Kumar on Jun 14, 2007 09:35 AM Permalink
Mohammad kashif, it was Zaheen Usmani in an earlier post who brought in the Mullas, I merely roped in the Christains ;)
RE:Rediff deviding the society
by vipul parmar on Jun 14, 2007 09:10 AM Permalink
You are perfectly right Little Master.
Or else there is another probability that rediff people belongs to sweepers society (Their father s or mothers may be) :) Thats why they hurt badly and want to expose this matter.
Do the google search "Christian agression" and you will find many atrocities carried bchritian missionaries all across the globe. I am not sure how many ppl came face to face with this act of agression. But yes I have seen the changes in the mindset of recent converts by the missionaries e.g. the converts stopped particpating in the common community functions, stopped going to temples which was very casual earlier, lookout for any weak minded individual who they can convert with ease and at any social gathering they would be the first to raise religious topics e.g. comparison between religions, any natural calamities the converts would be the first to reach not purely to help the needy but a ample oppurtuinity to find easy targets.....
RE:Christian agression....
by on Jun 14, 2007 12:52 PM Permalink
Hence you need to be well read. Take it as a positive and discuss it intelligently. I have found that they usually dont last more than a couple of questions. They move on to somebody else
Jiddu says; I maintain that Truth is a pathless land, and you cannot approach it by any path whatsoever, by any religion, by any sect. That is my point of view, and I adhere to that absolutely and unconditionally. Truth, being limitless, unconditioned, unapproachable by any path whatsoever, cannot be organised... The moment you follow someone you cease to follow Truth There can be no 'stronger' truth than this.
Its high time Mr.Ravikrishna comes out of this self created mess and concentrate on serving the public by saving the lives of people who have been infected with chikungunya. Also Mr.Tantri should not come out and say that chikungunya has struck the state because of Non-Hindus visiting the temple and purification of temple is required to save lives of people in kerala.
It is the ego matter of priest that he do not apologise for insulting the dignity and pride of millions of dalit of the country.For a time being if it is expected that it is matter of religion insted of caste it means there is no conception of conversion in hindusim.
In facts most of the priests including Mullahs make every issue a matter of prestige and ego and do a lot of harm to their religion, Muslims priests do too and hindu example is there.
Try to analyse the facts, 1.this is all political 2.Ravi is not a dalit, he is a congress politician 3.He named his "Rajiv" (excluded "gandhi") and want the godess sonia know that he named his son after her beloved husband,this is the best way to get marketing, otherwise how Congress president remembers this.
4.Temples are convervative bcos, there is a lot of conversions, now that they are trying to preach and establish a chruch in tirumala, the most pious hindu place, will any muslim keep quite if the same is done in mecca and scold allah and islam.They would have destroy half the world.
RE:Priests Ego
by Kumar on Jun 14, 2007 08:58 AM Permalink
Zaheen Usmani, excellent post! The Tantris, Mullas and the Missonaires are all hate peddlers. Their heart is full of hate rather than love for fellow humans. The rest of the space left empty in their hearts is filled with ego. You are a true Indian!
RE:Priests Ego
by sasi narayanan on Jun 14, 2007 08:51 AM Permalink
it is not ego of the priest but ego of ravi krishnan caused the problem.the same type of punyaham had happend at the time of ravikrishnas marriage. then why he had to go again there and make the controversy.what he proved by that ? for his bhakthi/ego , he is creating a very sensitive issue which may lead to greater issues
