"Once the rites were completed and the couple descended from the mandap Mercy Ravi, in a spontaneous expression of happiness, took off one of the chains around her neck and put it on her son".
Dear Prem Panicker,
Who ever you might be I dont care but refrain from writing this silly and divisive writing for gaining popularity. The para you have mentioned is a of ulterior nature.
Please tell us what are you upto with these writings are trying stoke differences among us.
If you want to act another social reformer try with religions also they have too many ills than us.
RE:TEMPLES are TAXED while MASJID AND MULLAHS RECEIVE GOVT FUNDS
by Amruta on Jun 13, 2007 11:52 AM Permalink
Hi Anir....just a small clarification. Mosques or other establishments of muslims do not ask for money from other non-muslims.Its a different issue, if someone gives money...but Islam prohibits "asking" money from non-muslims. I have seen Christian/Hindu/Sikh devotees going door to door asking for donations, but never a muslim priest. There will be no opposition from muslims even if the Govt stops paying the Mullahs...the only reason it is doing so is because the percentage of muslims is less and the well-off muslims are even lesser!!!
RE:TEMPLES are TAXED while MASJID AND MULLAHS RECEIVE GOVT FUNDS
by Ashish Kumar on Jun 13, 2007 12:51 PM Permalink
The reason why hindus go collectiing chandas for religious function is that the community bondage & involvement. Offcourse we donot have money flowing from Middle east or some terrorist organisation for construction of mosques.......
RE:RE:TEMPLES are TAXED while MASJID AND MULLAHS RECEIVE GOVT FUNDS
by manoj ak on Jun 15, 2007 06:33 PM Permalink
Very well said.....the saudi royal family pays for the maintenance of thousands of moques in India.And why are most muslims poor? because each family has more than 5 children.
RE:TEMPLES are TAXED while MASJID AND MULLAHS RECEIVE GOVT FUNDS
by Surya Kanishka on Jun 13, 2007 12:34 PM Permalink
You are misleading us, Anir didnt say that they are "asking" but Government is giving them.
Secondly, Can you please explain and eloborate to us by what methods you are telling us the percentage of them is less and what are the factors contributing them not be well off.
If Rediff continue to publish his articles, I will write PIL in the interest of 'national peace'. His articles are anti-hindu and inciting hatred. He is truly anti-national
RE:Remove all PREM PANICKER articles.. these are inciting
by Ashish Kumar on Jun 13, 2007 12:49 PM Permalink
I do wish to take action against Rediff, its behaving spoilsport by behaving like a midday paper focusing on cheap stories which can create controversies, rift in the indian society etc. I never seen any Rediff articles on National integration focus on similiarties across diff states. Rediff is proud on cheap publicityand promotion of hatered.
Why did the Media including the REDIFF Cover up this message ???????????????????????????? Suckers made a fool out of the people . Now it is clear why the temple authorites done the cleaning activities . It is quite logical way of thinking of the Temple authorites .
This is quite an unfortunate incident blown out of proportions. Ravi Krishna is a Hindu and also his wife and child are pure hindus. Just because he was wearing a chain with a cross in it when he entered the temple, that doesn't mean that he is not a Hindu at all. Wonder how many people get into the temple with a cross in their chain. Just becuase these people were VIP's it was noticed. Also what will the Devaswom officials do when some non-Hindu disguises himself as a Hindu and enter the temple purely because of his belief in Hinduism and also in Lord Sri Krishna? Will they be able to throw out these devotees?? Impossible !!! It is all in one's belief.
RE:Blown out of proportions
by ramprasad on Jun 13, 2007 10:20 AM Permalink
will he close the temple and conduct punyaham if non hindus enter once every half an hour. is their any specific identification that the father of one is only hindu. why not muslim or harijan. is the temple prevents the air used by a non hindu enterin the temple and making it un clean.
RE:Blown out of proportions
by Swaroop on Jun 13, 2007 01:39 PM Permalink
What is the intention behind stating 'muslim or harijan'? Who told about caste here?
It is not about equality or discrimination. That is a totally wrong way of looking at this issue.
First, a temple is not a public place for anyone and everyone to enter. There is bulky literature available in our ancient texts about what exactly a temple is and rigid rules to be followed during construction, daily maintenance, daily rituals and so on.
Strictly speaking, religion and caste may not be important, but what is important is whether somebody is pious, whether somebody studies Hindu scriptures such as Bhagawad Gita and Upanishads, and performs yoga, pranayama and dhyana. That is why all Hindus were not allowed entry in the ancient times.
If you want to go to a temple, then you must respect a temple's rules.
Secondly, in many Hindu homes, we have a room or small place to perform prayer and rituals to Gods. Even all the family members are not allowed into this place at all times under all conditions. It is not about equality or discrimination.
Thirdly, consider the atmosphere in our country. It has always been a fight between Hindus, Muslims, Christians and other religions. Perhaps, they may be living together peacefully to some extent, but the fights and tensions among them are also significant. Politcial parties alone are not to be blamed, but even at the level of common non-political people, there is a lot of hatred among people of different religions. A few religions purposefully spread hatred, misconceptions about Hinduism. This is happenin
A few religions purposefully spread hatred, misconceptions about Hinduism. This is happening all over India. These are not exceptions and these can not be ignored. We already had enough controversies over conversions and evangelization. These are not insignificant and can not be ignored.
Everyone wants to use religion for political purposes. This incident itself is a proof and we need not look any further. The statements issued by the ministers and other politicians show their hatred towards Hinduism.
RE:RE:A temple is not a public place
by ramprasad on Jun 13, 2007 10:52 AM Permalink
It is not the hatred towards hinduism. it is the humam rights to worship any religion. Are you human. A human being once after a bath they are purified to enter any place of worship. No need for a birth certificate for his religion because this has to be given by once mother and in any case she cannot deny her husband even if one is born to somebody else.
RE:A temple is not a public place
by ABCD on Jun 13, 2007 11:38 AM Permalink
Idiot Ramparasad, if u cannot understand something, please keep quiet. Nobody asked for your dirty explanation and twisted facts. If u r not able to accept Hinduism, go and get converted....stupid pervert...u want these bloody Christian Missionaries to convert all Hindus ??
RE:A temple is not a public place
by ramprasad on Jun 13, 2007 10:33 AM Permalink
if temple is not a public place you mean god is only for higher cost people. is it not insulting the lower cost people in india. the money offered by lower cast people is goog for the god. how can you enter a temple after eating eating vegetable or food produced by a lower cast person or you not unclean. these are useless and unwanted laws created by some senseless fellows. better modify it for the benfit of survival of hindu religion otherwise no one will worship your god and your conversion from other religion to hinduism will bring infight and disaster and self damage.
RE:RE:A temple is not a public place
by Surya Kanishka on Jun 13, 2007 10:43 AM Permalink
Ramprasad,
Understand the contents of his writngs first. You are missing the essence of it. The emphasis of his writings are on the purity of the person to enter a temple. "Brahman" by word is not caste but person who is pure in attire, deeds, conduct etc. This was the code of the conduct in ancient days and has been followed by priests now. If you can recollect women having their cycles are not allowed to enter, touch any thing in the puja room as the have an impurity of passing of blood and fluids.
There are scientific reasoning for the most of the Hindu beliefs and practices. But for an westerner they may look as blind beliefs.
RE:A temple is not a public place
by Dragon Cares on Jun 13, 2007 11:20 AM Permalink
well said Surya. firstly, this issue is blown up bcoz of tug-of-war between two ministers; secondly, whoever wants to visit Temple, they need to obey/follow the rules/laws of Temple, thirdly, apart from concerned persons, others dont hv any business to interfere into this issue. Politicians and Religious groups are just playing with peoples' emotions and dividing the country. Hinduism has been alive for the past 5000 years irrespective of so many invaders and it will stil alive more decades/centuries. Hinduism doesnt need these politician and religious lunatics; but these people need Hinduism for their survival. In fact, I am a religious Hindu but totally against these religious outfits/partys/groups and politicians. In the eyes of GOD (Lord Krishna / Lord Guruvayoorappan / Lord Venkateshwara), all the human beings are same. GOD never see any difference in human to pour GRACE.
