RE:RAM SETU
by blue wrox on Jun 11, 2007 06:25 PM Permalink
the alternative route will be around srilanka my friend.Do you think GOI is stupid? or is it u?
RE:RAM SETU
by Indian Analyst on Jun 11, 2007 07:30 PM Permalink
blue wrox, can you send me a link or some info that there is only one alternative and that is to go through SL ?
Why was the route of Metro passing 'close' Qutub Minar in New Delhi was abandoned and later reworked fearing prospective damages to this 815 years man made monument?
Why the project of Taj corridor (which would have made lot of dollars to our money minded govt) was put off after the hue and cry of environmentalists as the construction near Taj 'may' cause bad effect on this 359 years old man made monument. Please give attention here that these monuments were not going to be destroyed but were 'feared' to get damaged.
Will any government in China would destroy or even alter The great wall of China(2695 years old) for the sake of any amount of money?
Will any one allow pulling down 4507 years old Pyramids of Egypt in lieu of any uncountable amount of money?
If the answer is NO, then why this 17,25,000 years old man made monument is being destroyed for the sake of some coins?
RE:ram setu
by Ponga Pandit on Jun 11, 2007 06:06 PM Permalink
well...i aint sure of the authenticity of the legend, but if it is indeed an important thing...due to which someone EVEN in the USA has asked for it to be preserved....then it should not be demolished!
RE:ram setu
by blue wrox on Jun 11, 2007 06:28 PM Permalink
"EVEN in the USA".whats that some kind of bench mark? for america a pencil made in 1960's is antique.Stop comparing usa to india you idiot.We have seen 1000's of USA's rise and fall.Some stupid guys in there blabbering does not help in anyway.If you want to stop it jump into the water and get a signature of rama or a skelton of the monkeys or atleast a man made stone.
RE:RE:ram setu
by Ponga Pandit on Jun 11, 2007 06:34 PM Permalink
Even in the USA....!!! What it means is, that even a fockin stranger(and a learned and educated one at that)...can see that there is some significance to it...but we Indians do not.
I do not corroborate it with the so-called religious myths of ramayana et al....but what are the downsides to it???
RE:RE:RE:ram setu
by Ponga Pandit on Jun 11, 2007 06:16 PM Permalink
If some azzhole sittin far off in the usa thinks its important to save something which indians rever, its logical that as an indian, each one of us should also come out in support of not demolishing it!!...
Or is a case of "ghar ki murgi dal barabar"...adobe?
RE:RE:RE:ram setu
by Adobe on Jun 11, 2007 06:18 PM Permalink
To the USA pandit, who speaks about underwater fauna and flora: If you are aware and living in the bramaputra valley in the northrn part of India, you have to be reminded of one thing. The source of the river is china, and china has build against conventions few dams on the river on its side. It is used effectively to generate its development... If there comes a war with India, the water will be let at one go and we can see few Indian friends like you "underwater"! That is reality... that is intelligence! That is the sprit needed here in doing things with brains! Not 1700000000000000000 year old Ram setu joke being discussed here
RE:RE:RE:RE:ram setu
by Ponga Pandit on Jun 11, 2007 06:20 PM Permalink
And, pray tell me....the canal u r referring to, will be used for the passage of Indian Naval Warships...so they have a shorter passage to attack China...???? lolzzzz
RE:ram setu
by Indian Analyst on Jun 11, 2007 07:39 PM Permalink
Adobe, If you point to even a small park or monument that is more than 100yrs old in USA, it can be preserved as a historical monument. I am not sure how much sense it makes to destroy a natural or man made structure like this. The article suggests that it should be made a tourist destination with glass bottom boats. Excellent idea. Will the US ever touch the grand canyon ? In surat, there is a grave of a muslim right at the center of a busy road. Nobody can remove it ! It's not even 50yrs old ! There might be some BS story behind it. The point is: even if it is a fable, the rama setu has sentiments of 1billion hindus attached to it. The GOI should strive to preserve the monument.
RE:RE:ram setu
by Adobe on Jun 11, 2007 06:13 PM Permalink
groundless faith! That is what I mean. But if you make a canal for the ships to go around, few ports will come up, few employment will be created and few stomachs will get filled. That is reality...
RE:ram setu
by on Jun 11, 2007 07:10 PM Permalink
If u have mind u can think of an alternative, the destruction of ram sethu will results loss of precious water animals and many lives, ADOBE before destructing something first learn how to save and build lives. don't argue blindly.
RE:ram setu
by Adobe on Jun 11, 2007 05:56 PM Permalink
You are comparing world wonders with just a natural sand mound. Funny comparison... go ahead! Look... you have to pay for this beer. Reading your comments, I laughed and spilled my precious beer ... sh.. I have to clean it!
RE:RE:ram setu
by Ponga Pandit on Jun 11, 2007 06:05 PM Permalink
ummmm...mr. patriot. if u have posted ur views here, i am sure u'll agree that even adobe has a right to post his response.
RE:ram setu
by Adobe on Jun 11, 2007 06:05 PM Permalink
I didnt say anything about Mecca or War or virgins... because I am not related to any of those gibberish! I just say that getting rid of those mounds hoping for development is the right thing to do!
RE:ram setu
by Ponga Pandit on Jun 11, 2007 06:11 PM Permalink
well....nonetheless...even the ecological repercussions have to be taken into consideration while demolishing the same!!!
For all we know, it may be an ecological disaster resulting in the extinction of various flora and fauna underwater.
RE:ram setu
by ras on Jun 11, 2007 06:49 PM Permalink
well u think that you are a very knowledge, u ppl dont know about muslim religion. just you ppl feel that living happily is what god has made. if you want know about muslim religion ask your hindus brothers who is being cured by muslim dua. there is lot more things you ppl dont others. It is greatest of all religion & only religion will be accepted by god. believe in ram, krishna & vishnu they deva also created by allah. so you ppl are believing to them those are not true god.
RE:ram setu
by vikas gaba on Jun 11, 2007 06:02 PM Permalink
yeah it is very logical comparison mahendra . i and so many others agree with you . go ahead , and we are also launching some protest here against any proposed demolition.
It is the government's duty to preserve the bridge rather than to argue. It is being believed by crores of hindus in INDIA that it is made by GOD. Even if we can't prove that we have to preserve the bridge. The government has to conduct an Archeological Survey.
I am no religious person neither am a supporter of BJP but still I am in favor of saving the Ram Setu site, simply because of the fact that it is a part of our mythology and could in future be proved a part of history. When all the cultures around the world are trying to scientifically prove their mythologies we Indians should preserves this site because in future it can be important in solving the mystery of Ramayana, one of the most facilitating epics of the world.
RE:this is true
by Augustine Alemcherry on Jun 11, 2007 06:10 PM Permalink
I strongly believe it was built by Ravana, just in case his pushpaka flight developed a technical snag. People, including so called heritage organizations should understand that the epics are not meant to be taken in literal sense. Ramayana is a great epic set millions of years back - with fictious chatacters like 10 headed deamon, monkey gods and flying saucers! This is not something you have to take in literal sense.
RE:this is true
by Jas Sand on Jun 11, 2007 06:50 PM Permalink
If it was built by Ravana, then it is definitely man made ....
ABout Monkeys and Flyiong Saucers - its as ficticious as some Jesus Christ born to a virgin mom, crucified and his coming back alive ... every religion is made up of stories .. aint it?
RE:this is true
by Indian Analyst on Jun 11, 2007 07:57 PM Permalink
Augustine, a man with 10 heads (or faces) might be a literal reference to the brilliance of Ravana or who knows what. In sanskrit, even maths is in form of allegories. It is easy to misinterpret even kalidasa. Pushpaka might just be a horse carriage that talked to the wind (was really fast)... At best, ramayana might be a fictionalized account of a true story. I would appreciate your opinion if you took the bible in a literal sense and not as a word of god.
How many believe Ramayana is just epic. How can we believe that a bunch of monkeys can construct a bridge. Its seems to be joke. I believe its a natural link between India and Srilanka.
RE:Ramayana is a epic?
by Karikolraj Kasirajan on Jun 11, 2007 06:11 PM Permalink
It may not be a joke Mr.India, since you and me have not seen the fact. So lets dont make a statement without knowing the fact.
RE:Ramayana is a epic?
by Purvin Vyas on Jun 11, 2007 06:04 PM Permalink
Ramayan is base on Indian culture and Indian philosophy. If you are not Hindu then you have no values of Ramayana and Mahabharata. So please don%u2019t show your knowledge and if you are in India or Indian, this is very very bad luck for India.
RE:Ramayana is a epic?
by hindu arya on Jun 11, 2007 05:52 PM Permalink
SInce you believe so do other hindus believe. its a matter of faith who are you to question. you are definitely not a hindu.
RE:Ramayana is a epic?
by LALOO yadav on Jun 11, 2007 05:53 PM Permalink
you must be a hideous Christian, who claims all about jesus is true where as all about hindu epics is just a myth..
RE:Ramayana is a epic?
by kunwar bora on Jun 11, 2007 06:01 PM Permalink
The whole human civilisation is all about monkeys efforts n gradual developement.
RE:Ramayana is a epic?
by Augustine Alemcherry on Jun 11, 2007 06:15 PM Permalink
Friend, you lack any knowledge about Hindu religion or christanity. Jesus lived just 2000 years back, but the hindu epics are supposed to have taken place millions of years back.
It is possible to trace places, incidents etc. related to those mentioned in Bibile, but ramayana is way tooooooooo old for the same. It doesnt have to do anything with the religious belief - it si a matter of common sense.
I am not against taking everything in Ramayana in the litereal sense - even though my common sense wont allow it :). What is real follishness, in my opinion is trying to find proof for something that have taken place millions of years back. You wont be a pakistani or anti-indian just if you try to apply some common sense.
RE:Ramayana is a epic?
by Indian Analyst on Jun 11, 2007 08:05 PM Permalink
Augustine, Just as I thought. You will believe the bible (that makes a mockery of Evolution, says earth is flat etc...). Dinosaurs happenned millions of years ago. Ramayana is set around 5-10 thousand years back. Expert opinion varies. There was civilization and history, higher thought and philosophy before christ. You choose to believe in christianity at the peril of humanity.
RE:Ramayana is a epic?
by on Jun 11, 2007 06:53 PM Permalink
It is immaterial whether ramayna is a epic or not? but it is human repsonsibility to preserve monuments and beliefs, one can achieve anything with determination and dedication. How 6 feet humans reached moon, just be means of their inventions, do not think u as a genious just by predicting youeslf without knowing anything.
RE:Ramayana is a epic?
by India on Jun 11, 2007 05:56 PM Permalink
Mates, I am a Hindu but don't believe stupid things like Ramanya. Being a hindu not nesscarily believe everything.
RE:RE:Ramayana is a epic?
by Indian Analyst on Jun 11, 2007 08:14 PM Permalink
If you are an Indian, you should work to preserve the natural or man-made structure which is unique and has historical significance.
But, I am sure that you are brainwashed into hating your own heritage and history. The sad part of Indian minorities is their hatred for the Hindu way of life. Adapt to what you like, but stop hating us. Give credit to the majority for adpating a secular constitution, tolerance and in general being progressive.
RE:RE:Ramayana is a epic?
by kunwar bora on Jun 11, 2007 06:03 PM Permalink
u believe u r made of a micro egg n a sperm. Ramayana is much more believable than it.
RE:RE:Ramayana is a epic?
by on Jun 11, 2007 06:56 PM Permalink
What will u belive in if not ramayana? i think u beleive only eating food and doing......... first know abt hinduism, its great.
RE:Ramayana is a epic?
by RAVINDRA SATPUTE on Jun 11, 2007 06:21 PM Permalink
hey dear Inida, u just tell me what is the stupid thing in Ramayana, whether it is true story or not, it may be debatable, but whatever it teaches is not at all stupid or debatable, rather it shows the way even to todays man. by saying like that dont show ur brain. Central govt. should find out the alternative to the sethusamundram project.
RE:Ramayana is a epic?
by ritesh tomar on Jun 11, 2007 06:13 PM Permalink
when u don't believe in Ramayana how cud u call urself a Hindu, when u don't hve faith in Lord Ram, u don't right to call urself a Hindu. Always remember only Hinduism allows you to urgue none of the other religion in the world. But it doesn't means u r free to say anything
RE:Ramayana is a epic?
by ramesh raina on Jun 11, 2007 06:15 PM Permalink
Can you distort Darwins theory of evolution" Oue ancestors were Homo sapeins like monkeys. Charles Darwin was a scientist. So stop calling "Bunch of monkeys'.You should watch Anuimal Planet " Monkey Business and you stupid will understand that Monkeys also possess intelligence at par with humans. It is possible that Lord Rama may have taken help of Monkeys to contruct the bridge.
Just for you to Ponder " why is any discovery called RE-SEARCH" and not SEARCH. the answer is it is already "searched". Good Luck
Scientist of the opinion that if you destroy the adams bridge it will stop the thorium acumlation. Our atomic energy program is based on the thorium reserve. Moreover economical gain dues to this project is still questionable. Congress Govt should consider all the aspects before bending back to its regional partner cheap political mandate.
RE:Thorium we going to lo
by kapil on Jun 11, 2007 05:46 PM Permalink
Deshdrohi never allow this. He will destroy not only Ram sethu but India too. Hope u know who is deshdrohi.
Could all religion give a list of their momuments, assets and a list which are offensive to thier religion. To avoid future problems caused like Sethu or offense created against Sikhs this will be helpful. In regard with Sethu Project it was BJP who signalled go ahead and now after America's finding they claim that as bridge made by Ram.
RE:New Law?
by Sunil Kumar Dupakuntla on Jun 11, 2007 05:57 PM Permalink
BJP had given the signal to Ram Sethu project with plan that will not disturb Ram Sethu. The plan under proposal by the present govt will disturb Ram Sethu. This is what BJP and 100 crores Indian's are protesting.
