RE:HOW ABOUT A LAW TO ENTER MECCA
by vijay on Jun 07, 2007 09:21 AM Permalink
WE SHD CLEAN OUR OWN HOUSE FIRST, MECCA THEY DONT HV A CASTE SYSTEM IN MUSLIMS.
RE:HOW ABOUT A LAW TO ENTER MECCA
by SHAHRUKH NIZAMI on Jun 07, 2007 09:31 AM Permalink
Have you not seen anywhere fight between brothers? Its just same as fight between two brothers not between caste. GOT IT???
Gentlemen, why expecting a charity from the hindus always. Dont you read a warning at the entrance of all great masjids in India where at a place defined for performing wazoo, there is a clear written mention that NON MUSLIMS ARE NOT PERMITTED BEYOND THIS PLACE. Can you dare asking the masjid administration to relax this rule and remove this barrier. It is high time now, every one must understand that religion, eventhough not above the law, yet it is not sub-servient to law either. How can the judiciary decide about whether to worship Lord Vighneshwar first or some other deity in his place.
Remember, judiciary is just 2 centuries old in India but Hindu religion is practised from time immemorial. So stop poking your nose into the sacred Hindu Religion.
RE:psedo secularism or PURE HYPOCRISY
by sumit dey on Jun 07, 2007 09:22 AM Permalink
I think the law should be "All 'public places' whether it is social or religious, everyone has the right of entry , of course on the condition we follow cirtain norms that might be set by the managing body . The conditions should not be distructive to person/s or their faith"
RE:Sonia's achievements - continued.......
by Bhupinder Singh on Jun 07, 2007 09:25 AM Permalink
dear you should come out of slumber and guide the common people, all politician are chor and just befooling the public,, nehro worked hard to promote public sector unit and now their follower are privatising them for nothing,, starting look like very interesting but about crore of industries under private sector are sick and closing down,, are they not privatised,, why our soclled businness , m n c are harping after big petrol corporation ,mine and monopolised industries,,,,pooverty is also in private sector , why it is not diminishing,, earning wealth inn private sector,, why only politician, smuggler and manipulator of system share market , property rate are getting rich, why not our rickshaw pullar , worker, farmer are getting rich,,who is behing the share boom,, 1992 it is harshad mehta,, now who,,,, why are farmer are dying,villager suiciding,,this is all foolishness,, we are follow the sustainable culture,,, see how rent, property rate and transportation cost increased,,, now middle class peoplle has to live in slum, there is not security for them,,,, new terrorism will escalate in our metro andcity by unemployed people,,
RE:Sonia's achievements - continued.......
by sumit dey on Jun 07, 2007 09:19 AM Permalink
every one has the right to express what he/she feels. lets be liberal in our view and repect the others views also. Every one is right from his angle .
RE:True. Church allows all, Darga allows all, why not Mandir?
by azbycx on Jun 07, 2007 09:14 AM Permalink
And equality irrespective of religion. Bramins will never admit that others are as equal to them. Where as Church and Dargas encourage others to join their prayers. When will bramins learn and improve????
RE:True. Church allows all, Darga allows all, why not Mandir?
by Indian on Jun 07, 2007 09:22 AM Permalink
Are you replying to yourself? why do you need the rediff forum for that.
RE:True. Church allows all, Darga allows all, why not Mandir?
by SaiKrishnan Thyagarajan on Jun 07, 2007 09:18 AM Permalink
Why don't you suggest the same to the Vatican or the Moslems. Even today Protestants are not allowed inside the Vatican and the whole world known how Islam as a religion discriminates women. Why don't you and the Prem Panickers of the world give GYAAN to them to open up first and then come and lecture Hindus. Get you fu...g info right first and then lecture others.
RE:True. Church allows all, Darga allows all, why not Mandir?
by Suresh on Jun 07, 2007 09:32 AM Permalink
No chance women are not allowed into many dargahs. And women are not allowed to sit with men. So where is the equality. First let other religions follow an open door policy.
The Chief Priest of Sree Guruvayur Temple is absolutely correct. First of all let us not allow Government or Ministers to interfere with the functioning of temples. They do not do that with Churches or Mosques. Why only temples. Leave them as they are. Let there be accoutability and proper audit of the temple administration entrusted to trustees without any interference from the Government. If a person of other religion wants to enter the temple let him get converted through Arya Samaj and enter the temple. Why should he enter the temple having his faith in other religion. Our politicians and Media are making hue and cry about only Hindus and Hindu temples. If we talk or write about other religions, we become communal. What a secural phenomenom followed by our useless politicians and money-making media?
RE:Hindu Temple Entry
by Vijayabaskar on Jun 07, 2007 09:21 AM Permalink
Can a non-muslim enter the santum of Mecca? NO! Samething applies here. Why dont the politicians do the same with the churches and mosques? they can't...
RE:Hindu Temple Entry
by sumit dey on Jun 07, 2007 09:27 AM Permalink
Of course the priest is correct in saying Government should not interfere. But dont you think everyone has the right to enter the temple. One way people make hue and cry of conversion of Hindus to other religion and other way we are only branding "high caste Bhramins" are only proper hindus. It is not a question of entry to one temple. It is question of which comes first "Religion and its showoffs or Himanity "
RE:Hindu Temple Entry
by Vijay Raghavan on Jun 07, 2007 09:27 AM Permalink
They don't interfere in the affairs of the Churches and Durgas, becuase they don't discriminate against any one. Anyone can enter and worship over there.
Everyone knows that till some years back that the majority of the Hindu Folks were not allowed inside the Temple citing the impurity of those castes. It was because of the Govt taking over the control of the Temples the Untoucability practice is on the decline.
Earlier, there were Devadasi system prevailed inside the Temple and it was also hailed as a culture of Hinduism. By taking the Control of the Temples, Govt. had prevented the Prostitution practices inside the premises of the Temple.
The Govt. Interference was necessary becuase you were not doing good. Now there are lot of colleges set up by Devasom Boards and HR&CE ministry in Kerala & Tamilnadu respectively becuase of the Govt Control. Tell me how many colleges were started by the varous famous mutts some 40-50 years back. Whereas the Churches were concentraing in the development of education among the masses, which is not agreeable to the forward community people like us.
RE:RE:Hindu Temple Entry
by sumit dey on Jun 07, 2007 09:30 AM Permalink
That is very correct. Still if you go to most temples , Brahmins are people who control the Administration. What is so special about born as a brahmin. There are as many good and bad people as in other religion. And as far as following customs like veg and other are concerned , there are many communities who follow them
India is doing extremely good under SONIAJI. Under her leadership, *Stock market is booming, *foreign reserves are at an all time high, *manufacturing is booming *internal situation is pretty good, *No problems with neighbours, *India is now a trillion dollar economy(only 11 other countries are in this club) *Pakistan pretty much silent on kashmir * Musharaff does not hope of extracting anything from Sonia led government as against vajpayi goverment
This quiet CHRISTIAN lady has done amazingly well and will surely lead India to great successes in the near future. Honestly speaking how many Indians want the likes of Mulayam, Mayawati, Laloo, Advani etc. to take the centre stage. The above idots are going put India back to the days of snake charmesr. But she should definitely refrain from becoming PM. Some people can be really lucky to india. We continue to need her presence at the top. Good luck to SONIAJI and India.
RE:SONIAJI KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
by mahendra on Jun 07, 2007 09:03 AM Permalink
remember the progress of india u mantioned was started in vaypayi goverment
RE:SONIAJI KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
by sujeesh areekara on Jun 07, 2007 09:31 AM Permalink
WHy ..the list is not complete...The increase can also be seen in..prostitution,farmer suicide,bankruptcy,corruption,prices of almost all essential commodities...and definete decrease in the value of human life
RE:SONIAJI KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
by Bhupinder Singh on Jun 07, 2007 09:06 AM Permalink
pravin gupta you are right , without congress, there is not any national party , all party are dancing like madaari,, see how third front isgtting formed in hedrabad,, shame on indian poltician,, india need absolute majority govt at centre,, all relgion parties are bunch of corrupts people , by harping on regionalism , they are harming the interest of development,, see how germany france becoming friends, it is in world 1 and 2 each other killed more 50 million peoople of each other,, this age is of knowledge, development and luxuries and freedom, from illiteracy and darkness, all people should come join the hand of intellignet leader like monmohansingh ji,, and support him whooleheartedly,, poverty dont go with poverty,, it goes with transferency handwork and stong law of taxing and justic,,, all people should come and unitedly supoort the right person,,,
RE:SONIAJI KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
by Steve Andrews on Jun 07, 2007 09:05 AM Permalink
Idiot stock market is not booming because of Sonia. She knows nil bata sannata about stock market.
RE:RE:SONIAJI KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
by Steve Andrews on Jun 07, 2007 09:12 AM Permalink
Internal situation very good, every now and then there are Gujjar's agitating because of Sachin Pilot(Cong), Dera-sikh conflict, Nithari killings. And you call it a good situation
RE:SONIAJI KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
by sumit dey on Jun 07, 2007 09:36 AM Permalink
Are Bhai, There are some people who are born as slave and there are many in the congress...Born Slaves.... they will praise the Gandhi and Congress for just anything... and cannot think rationally....this is because of the kind of background (parental and teaching) they get.... no one can help they
RE:SONIAJI KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
by John Corniche on Jun 07, 2007 09:13 AM Permalink
Guptaji,
Its people like you who has made this country to slaves of one family.
To run a country you need a bunch of qualified people like our PM, FM & Planning Commission etc, etc. So, even if its successs, it should be shared by all & not only the "G" family.
Indians are used to "SLAVERY" and hence, this disease. Come out of the closet & judge things in proper perspective.
