RE:temple
by ganesh krish on Jun 07, 2007 09:33 AM Permalink
Nikhil lets first clean our house and then think about cleaning neighbours house. we cant wait our neighbour to clean his/her house so that we will clean ours. We have to accept there is problems in the existing hindu system.
RE:temple
by Raghunathan Nair on Jun 07, 2007 09:45 AM Permalink
Ganesh, do you mean only problems in Hindu system and not in other communities. What is happening in Christianity there are so many like OBC, SC / ST & GENERAL. Do you mean to say that nothing is wrong with Muslims ? Then why Shia's and Sunnis fighting each other Iraq and parts of the world. Every community there is bigger problems than in Hindu but media or the politicians dare to touch other communities issues other than Hindus.
Can anyone in this country had the country to ask Syed Ahmed Bukhari to shut up his mouth for anti India remarks ? If Bal Thackery or any other Hindu leaders make any comment then the entire world will make a statement saying that these are provocative statements to instill communal violence ?
RE:RE:temple
by Pandu on Jun 07, 2007 09:58 AM Permalink
Well said Raghunath We will postpone our reforms till all the other religions have sorted out their problems, fanatism etc. The problem which will arise is that there will be people like you in Islam, Christainity etc who will also give the same excuses. So we all will remain exactly where we are, waiting for the other to introspect & reform.
RE:temple
by sumit dey on Jun 07, 2007 09:39 AM Permalink
Hinduism will grow only we are liberal and give away these show offs. Grow --meaning people's growth..mentally and lifestyle
RE:temple
by VAK Mumbai on Jun 07, 2007 09:34 AM Permalink
Will Vayalar Ravi say it is Mullah's arrogance not to be allowed in Kaaba or for that matter Mecca or medina or even his town's mosque,
RE:temple
by Pandu on Jun 07, 2007 09:48 AM Permalink
Hahaha, nice one !!! Its like saying "I will stay illiterate bcoz my nieghbours are also illiterate, why dont you ask them ?" Boss, This is a discussion amongst hindus, dont bring in what others allow or not. We are not them and we dont want to be like them.
RE:Chal E Jingur
by narasimha deshpande on Jun 07, 2007 09:50 AM Permalink
This is our place of worship, we have every authority to protect our values and traditions,. Do any one allow non muslims to enter in to mecca. Entering is not the problem, problem is do they believe and respect in our way worship.?If they then no problem. NGDeshpande.
GOD is one and people have no right to decide who will enter a particular temple or not. Priests are just messengers between GOD and us and they stand no where between GOD and people.
RE:GOD is One
by vijay on Jun 07, 2007 09:28 AM Permalink
Get a taste of what awaits you in print from this compelling excerpt.
The sins of Girdharilal Maurya are many, his attackers insisted. He has bad karma. Why else would he, like his ancestors, be born an Untouchable, if not to pay for his past lives? Look, he is a leatherworker, and Hindu law says that working with animal skins makes him unclean, someone to avoid and revile. And his unseemly prosperity is a sin. Who does this Untouchable think he is, buying a small plot of land outside the village? Then he dared speak up, to the police and other authorities, demanding to use the new village well. He got what Untouchables deserve.
One night, while Maurya was away in a nearby city, eight men from the higher Rajput caste came to his farm. They broke his fences, stole his tractor, beat his wife and daughter, and burned down his house. The message was clear: Stay at the bottom where you belong.
RE:GOD is One
by ganesh krish on Jun 07, 2007 09:37 AM Permalink
what is your point madhwa. you mean to say since catholic sodomize altar boys, we are also allowed to kill dalits??
I cannot accept politicians can change laws. They are only the Government servants who has to abide laws and provide services to the people.
This is totally a different issue. Here these politicians are playing with the Agama vidhis of the temple which was earlier described by Reverred Saint Parasurama and followed by Adi Sankara.
The political gimmicks cannot play into Agama Vidhis of the old traditions.
Moreover other religions is in existence now.
But Agama Vidhis are inclined to Astronomical influences which was discovered by our ancesters for the welfare of the humanity.
NO POLITICAL GIMMICKS. What Mr. Vayalar Ravi said about Brahminical arrogance. He should apologize for this and pray to Lord Guruvayuppan to make an immical statement about particular communicty.
Guruvayur Tantri, Shri Chennas Namboodiripad is so absolutely correct in his clarifications - hope the vile mouthed Minister Sudhakaran read the interview and apologise in public - indeed, a tall order to ask. But certainly the fair minded will now very clearly understand the position of the Tantri and would give him all respect that is fairly and rightfully his.
RE:Why just a temple ?
by Mayank Agarwal on Jun 07, 2007 09:27 AM Permalink
Don't talk like small kids..... please .. if will be made it should be made for all. Don't separate things as hindus and other communities... and by the way .. in mosques even muslim women are not allowed.
So, please promote law..for equality which should be implemented for all religons.
Don't talk like small kids..... please .. if law will be made it should be made for all. Don't separate things as hindus and other communities... and by the way .. in mosques even muslim women are not allowed.
So, please promote law..for equality which should be implemented for all religons.
Why don't they bring a law to allow everyone into the Parliament? the Supreme Court of India ? ? into the atomic reactors? ? ? into the space research laboratories? ? ?
Becasue it just is not possible.
What is really required is that people should be even more restricted in entering the Guruvayoor temple and other temples than it is now.
Even most of the so called Hindus who enter these instituions do not know anything of Temple culture and do not desrve to enter a temple.
But then why does the devaswom not prevent their entry ? Becasue if they are restricted the temples will lose considerebly on their income.
Well, it s a very difficult question to answer.
People are groping inthe dark . The Upanishads repeatedly refer to :"the blind being lead by the blind" .that s what s happening in here .
RE:the blind being lead by the blind...........The Upanishads
by Satish Chopde on Jun 07, 2007 09:36 AM Permalink
people should not go to temples--make them in their hearts--temples & priests have become businesses & businessmen repectively
BRANDED AS IMPURE FROM THE MOMENT OF BIRTH, ONE OUT OF SIX INDIANS LIVE AND SUFFERS AT THE BOTTOM OF HINDU CASTE SYSTEM, THEY ARE UNTOUCHABLES.
Discrimination against India's lowest Hindu castes is technically illegal. But try telling that to the 160 million Untouchables, who face violent reprisals if they forget their place
everywhere we are seeing corruption becuase we have week centre, all regional parties are playing very divisive politics with their voter and fragmenting the mandate of people, we need strong poltical parties at centre , who may work as deterrent to antinational element and put presure on corrupt people and put them behind bar and pass stong legistrature to ban them from election,,,,, we need strong electin law,, 1, there should be law every should caste his vote legaly,,he some one is not present his /her vote can be castupon by her guaridian,,it be the responsibility of local punch ,pradhan and patwari , panchayat secretary to inform and distribute the slip of voter card to every home . otherwise declare symblolic fine while making rashan card for poor and land registory for rich,,, 2.every elected victory candidate should get at least 50% vote of total polled,, every vote should be preference votes,,(caste,relgionism, relligionis,automaticaly go) 3. everyparty should abide by their manifesto,, they should declare before election to whom they should support , otherwise they can not support after winning,,if they desire , they are to resign first and contest freshly,, 4.no corrupt income tex evador, criminal , terrorist should be allow to take part in election,, the time period should be very minimum ,,compaign should be allow in tv radio andin a very positive way and friendly way,, 5 all relgious, regiionalism, castism be banned from election issues,,religious place
RE:india needs strong election law and its implementation,,,
by Satish Chopde on Jun 07, 2007 09:34 AM Permalink
tough treatment is required--our politicos are highway robbers--so it's tough