It is really nice to see there is a huge mixed response on this matter. I wonder how these politician behave when their personal ego is stimulated. It has been long tradition of banning non-hindus entering the temple at this particular temple.I dont feel that no body has got the authority to question the traditions & practices of this temple. Does christianity or Islam, allows inter religious marriage ? I believe either of the wedding couple should go for conversion. Is this not a religious or traditional act. Or why do u have muslim law board whose authority is final in terms of religious matters.
RE:Biased View
by Sameer on Jun 07, 2007 11:02 AM Permalink
Being a majority in India, being a very liberal religion, people are trying to capitalise on it.
Why non - hindus want to enter temples? If Yesudas wants, let him buy a idol of Krishna as everyone knows, God is everywhre and u cant tie God to a specific premise. Why people want to hurt the feeling of Hindus?
You go follow ur religion, I follow my religion before tagging our selves as Hindus or muslims or chrstians we were born as human beings, no DNA test can prove ur religion n u cant read a new borns religions from the face.
Leave Hindus and Hinduism... Lets live in harmony n peace
RE:Biased View
by Mrigendra Shukla on Jun 07, 2007 11:19 AM Permalink
Temple is private property,which is set up by a saint , Pujari & Brahmins. Government do not donate or incurr fund on builting temples.Only devoties donate for creating Lords house, so they have full power to deny the enterence of any person from other religion or any Government person as long as the Temples management do not think him suitable for entering in Holy Home of Lord who is COW protector & COW lover. ( The person from religion which promots cow killing , cow eating ( Christians & Muslims ) can not or never should be allowed in Gods House who is supreme lover of COW. Who does not understatnd the greatness of COW.
RE:temple
by Lucky B on Jun 07, 2007 11:02 AM Permalink
It's a new way to counter Hinduism. Read here http://www.stephen-knapp.com/christian_terrorism_in_northeast_india.htm
RE:temple
by George Abraham on Jun 07, 2007 11:30 AM Permalink
It is a old way to attack christianity. But it already failed many times and it will fail again by God's grace.
I see lot of critics about conversion. Lets put things in perspective.
Hinduism is very liberal religion. Nobody complains when sombody converts into christinity becos christains are very liberals,spend lot of money on modrn education and health and are peace loving people. There is no such thing as christain terrorists in India. All love India. No pblm.
Sikhism is very loveable and it is a part of Hinduism and everybody accepts that in sprit.By and large, they are the most loveable community in India. The above two communities are the hard working and riches communities in India. Budhism which originated from India is very harmless and it is a peace loving community too.
On the other hand, Islam is violent and they hate india for whatever reasons. If anybody converts to Islam, it is a problem for India becouse they are not liberals and would want to live life the way Taliban lived. You can see violent all over the miidle east. So the bottomline is converting is not a problem as long as they are liberal, peace loving and patriots and not aligning towards terrorism and backwardness.
you are writing with hindu name, but it is evident that you are xtian.
it is right of anybody to convert to any religion of choice.
the 2 world wars , war in vietnam, nuking japan, bombing Iraq for oil, collateral damage...who are these blood thirsty voilent sick??...XTIANS. You have killed more people than any other force in history.
Jesus did not founded Xtianity, He called towards GOD. It was Paul who conjured GOD , and made him 3 in 1. And you confused lot think it will lead you to God's Kingdom, which offers same reward to a killer and who got killed....becoz Jesus took your sins away.
RE:Priorities
by shalini baigh on Jun 07, 2007 11:27 AM Permalink
Shalini Baigh What a biased view. For your information, ur home is a mixture of different religions. I am a Hindu, married to amuslim & our daughter in law is a christian. We are not converted to each others religion &all of us live together under one roof. In our daily life our religion has never been an issue neither we remember the religion. We visit all the places of worships, WITHOUT BOTHERING WHOSE GOD STAYS THERE. and it has never bothered us how we pray or what language we use while talking to `GOD'. God is in your though & not in your religion.
RE:Priorities
by Bala Saaheb on Jun 07, 2007 10:55 AM Permalink
ha ha ha, what a joke - If Islam is voilent then are the people fool to convert to Islam ... you seem to be living in a fools paradise ha ha ha
RE:Priorities
by Lucky B on Jun 07, 2007 10:58 AM Permalink
You are wrong about Christian missionaries' motives. Read here http://www.christianaggression.org/item_display.php?id=1141970933&type=articles
RE:Priorities
by brahman on Jun 07, 2007 11:06 AM Permalink
Navneet - you talked absolute stupidity..what makes you say that Islam is violent? and Indian Muslims are violent... I would say that a true Indian Muslim is more patriotic than any Hindus or Christians in India..They are peace loving people and loyal to their Country and that is why they are still living in India... You cannot be living in a Country and hate it too...If that is so the case, then they would also be experiencing the difficulties and terrorism being spread. In every religion there are black sheeps who create problems, violence, terrorism, etc. (recent example the Gujjars). Do not generalise a particular religion and the true Indian Muslim... and Indian Muslim is always an Indian Muslim... If Hindus have LTTE then Muslims have Taliban..these are the negative factors in every religion... So long as we respect every religion for their principles and faith, we would also be respected by everyone. I hate anybody saying that muslims are terrorists and violent loving community....(I am not a muslim, for your info).
RE:Priorities
by Kishore Babu on Jun 07, 2007 11:12 AM Permalink
hello LTTE is the brainchild of Christian missionaries. Prabhakaran is christian.If Indian muslims are so patriotic then why so many bomb blasts and train blasts.Do u think that pakis can do all these without the support of Indian native muslims? what abt kashmir killings? There 45000pandits are killed and 5lakh are living in exile in their own country? Did paki muslims are not INdians before they get separated? The problem is with ppl like u who keep suporting them till the fire touch u.
RE:Priorities
by brahman on Jun 07, 2007 11:32 AM Permalink
Kishore - I still am not able to digest your views - Let us keep aside Kashmir issue - there is a different type of proxy war going on, Kashmir has been a disputed issue for decades... As far as Bomb blasts are concerned, we should analysis that these are the handiwork of infiltrators from the enemy taking advantage of the secularism of India to destabilise the Country and bring a communnal war.. Ofcourse, poverty and uneducation amongst the muslim community too lure them to do such acts for want of some petty amounts...
If Muslim religion is violent loving and terrorists, then, tell me one thing...why more and more INDIANS (particularly Hindus) go to the gulfs, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, UAE, Sharjah etc. for employment and settling down there? With a minority, if they are terrorists in India, then with majority in their own country, they cannot be allowing Hindus even to enter their place... Do you have an anwer to this? Kerala's almost 8 districts are dominated by Muslims (one of them being Malappuram, which is the first cyber district)..Kerala has 99% literacy...no communal problems... are people not living there peacefully? It is wrong to say a religion as terror loving...
Bomb blasts, kashmir issue etc. are being created and nurtured by our so called politicians (80% of them are not muslim MPS or ministers, for your information) to keep the country in tenderhooks of communal tension so as to leverage votes, reservation, casteism, etc. everytime an innocent dies with
RE:Priorities
by Kishore Babu on Jun 07, 2007 11:48 AM Permalink
y u want to keep kashmir issue aside, did is there any struggle in kashmir till 1989, suddenly some mullas started throwing some stupid shouting from mosques and local muslim ppl started attacking the pandits . later part only infiltration started. now tell who started the initial fightings? u r telling 5districts in kerala are muslim dominated and are in peace , may b just last few yrs are they are muslim dominated but for last hundreds of yrs hundreds of districts in India are Hindhu dominated and still in peace, right. anyway already once communal riots have broken in malabar region of keral, why have u conviniently forgotten it?
dont support anyone just because of their religion, here nobody is targettign their religion, trying to say dont save criminals under religion. Even though LTTE and HIndhus are not related u brought it very promptly, but u wan tto keep kashmir aside, this shows ur true colours. well, so many are working in gulf countries,the are rules by kings and it u r so good why dont u tell these gulf countries to adopt democrasy and secularism.
RE:RE:Priorities
by brahman on Jun 07, 2007 11:37 AM Permalink
every time an innocent dies of bomb blast, terrorism, communal violence... my heart do bleed my dear and the fire do engulf my inner soul and affect the peace of mind for days together.... but what do we do to reduce and resolve the issue...
there is only one way - respect every religion, allow everyone to practice and follow whichever religion he/she wants to, desist from spreading hatred amongst each other... United we fight the external enemy....
RE:Priorities
by Sandy on Jun 07, 2007 11:22 AM Permalink
Friend, I partly agree and disagree on your comments. There is difference between LTTE and taliban. LTTE is not considered as a hindu terrorist organisation, they are fighting for homeland(which is a different issue), where as taliban supports jihad and supports ppl who enforces that. You need to think before you say, and moreover you are right that not a true indian muslim is more patriotic. Correct only a true indian muslim, not indian muslims who support pakistan. I have seen some ppl in hyderabad who openly support pakistan
RE:Marxists Mum on Christian Mess
by Rohit on Jun 07, 2007 10:51 AM Permalink
just 19% of it's population. In most of those aided institutions, they appoint their own people and salary is given by government. And they have quotas for their childeren.
Hindu Temple revenues go to the Government and they use this mainly to give salaries to Government employees, 50% of them Non Hindus. Now CPM is starting a Satyagraha from June 18th, befor the temple to give entry for Christians and Muslims. If that is given temples will be ruled by Christians and Mulsims henceforth. Instead it is hight time to liberate the temples, from the clutches of Government. Many Historical Temples suffered due to negligence of Governments in maitaining them.
Guruvayoor is a historic shrine run well, and they are all out to destroy it.
RE:it is RIGHT of devotees..If they welcome ,Go...If they do not, Stop
by Kishore Babu on Jun 07, 2007 11:04 AM Permalink
it seems non-hindhus especially christians want to enter temples because they are ashamed to go to their religious places..because of the notorious activites happening at thier respective places. we can only pity for you. in stead of commenting on others pl reduce the anti-social activites of ur institutions.Then u feel happy to go to ur places rather than trying to go to others places
RE:it is RIGHT of devotees..If they welcome ,Go...If they do not, Stop
by George Abraham on Jun 07, 2007 11:10 AM Permalink
How many christians want to enter temples. Do not tell lies. Vayalar Ravi is not a christian and his son claims that he is a hindu. DO not twist the fact that christians want to enter temples.
RE:RE:it is RIGHT of devotees..If they welcome ,Go...If they do not, Stop
by on Jun 07, 2007 11:16 AM Permalink
George Abraham, Does the name Yesudas ring a bell?
RE:RE:RE:it is RIGHT of devotees..If they welcome ,Go...If they do not, Stop
by George Abraham on Jun 07, 2007 12:32 PM Permalink
You are not able to count beyound 1. It itself proves my statement.
RE:it is RIGHT of devotees..If they welcome ,Go...If they do not, Stop
by on Jun 07, 2007 11:09 AM Permalink
Abdul Hameed you are correct. There is not even a hint of bhakti or shraddha in the attitude of Ravi.
Ravi is burning from the feeling of humiliation, he is angry, he is hurt, but he is not a devotee.
In contrast the love of M. A Baby, the communist, for the Lord appears to be genuine. He is not trying to barge his way into the temple.
RE:it is RIGHT of devotees..If they welcome ,Go...If they do not, Stop
by George Abraham on Jun 07, 2007 11:04 AM Permalink
So you agreed that lot of people are educated by missioaries unlike you selfish brahmins who did not allow other caste people to study.
RE:RE:it is RIGHT of devotees..If they welcome ,Go...If they do not, Stop
by on Jun 07, 2007 11:14 AM Permalink
George Abraham,
Missonaries run schools and charge for it. Do you expect us to be grateful to HLL for selling us soap.
Will Catholics open a Don Boscoe or a St. Xaviers deep inside rural India, no, they will not, they will teach the children of the elites, and make a ton of money.
RE:it is RIGHT of devotees..If they welcome ,Go...If they do not, Stop
by George Abraham on Jun 07, 2007 12:29 PM Permalink
I think you are living only in city that is why you do not know about villages. Christian missionaries open schools not only in cities but in fact most of the schools are in villages only. Because of christian schools not only christians but people of other religions are/were also getting education. This is why wherever christians are more you can see high literacy rate. You go through the biography of our great leaders. Most of them would have studied in christian educational insistitutions. In Christian schools generally the fee is very low compared to other schools. Nobody can deny that there is high standard in christians-run schools. That is why even people who speak publically against christians are also running to christians-run schools to join their children. Christian institutions are non-profit inst.s. and are not for making money.
RE:Leave us to continue our Traditions/rituals
by $Ronaldo$ on Jun 07, 2007 11:02 AM Permalink
Which caste are you Chattopadhyay? Let the Muslims and Christians stay in Hindu it is good for Hindus atleast all of the Hindus will stay united and not fight among themselves on castes.
RE:Leave us to continue our Traditions/rituals
by George Abraham on Jun 07, 2007 11:07 AM Permalink
Christianity has already faced lot of difficulties and oppressions. Right from the beginning christians are tortured and some are even killed. But the more you oppress the more christianity spread. That is the history.
RE:Leave us to continue our Traditions/rituals
by on Jun 07, 2007 11:01 AM Permalink
I agree with Bhaskar, why should Hindus have to plead for running their temples the way they. Hindu temples are NOT public property, they are under no obligations to abandon their traditions to accommodate leftist fashion.
Apparently, the tanthri is a scapegoat and no point in shouting at him. The flaw is in the process or temple rules which are obsolete. However, opening the temple doors for everyone in the earth is totally uncalled for. The temples are bound to safeguard the faith of the devotees and thus only the devotees of Guruvayurappan should be allowed to enter the temple irrespective of the religion. After all Guruvayoor is a pilgrim centre of the hinuds and not a tourist spot. Ministers should be cautious while making statements not to hurt anyone's feeling. They are supposed to be people's representatives, they should strive to resolve the issues than to side with any party and create further chaos.
