Me read your note of 2nd June, 2007 and felt something informative, so is this.
In your note, your quote of EM Shankaran Namboothiri %u201Cdespised these Christians as %u201CMlechhanmar%u201D is some thing unbelievable because as your mention, %u201CSome Namboodiri families were believed to have accepted xian faith%u201D was due to the harsh thinking only of Namboothiris. In the coverage of darkness Namboodiris used to sleep to whosoever cleared the path and before dawn escaped from site. and those who objected path were removed declaring Brasht. That was the reason of fewer were accepted Christianity.
In fact Xians were lovable to Brahmans and that was the reason Mr. A.P Udayabhanu, writer, once wrote that even though least bottom level caste people who merged to Xianity people were approachable and was acceptable the things which were preached to the temple. Me try to put here about the event which Mr. A.P. Udayabhanu, from the family of Mr. T.K. Madhavan who took part in the Vaikam Satyagraha (Skhetra Praveshana Satyagraham) who was crashed by the Travancore Police and after prolonged illness himself died.
It was the festival months of Travancore, on taking harvests every Devi- Devatas visits their devotees dwellings for %u201CPara edukkal purpose%u201D, and at near about dawn the grand mothor of Komalezhuth ( Komalezhuth is the house of the ancestors of Mr. T.K. Madhavan and it locates at north west zone of Chettikulangara Devi Temple and
Me read your note of 2nd June, 2007 and felt something informative, so is this.
In your note, your quote of EM Shankaran Namboothiri %u201Cdespised these Christians as %u201CMlechhanmar%u201D is some thing unbelievable because as your mention, %u201CSome Namboodiri families were believed to have accepted xian faith%u201D was due to the harsh thinking only of Namboothiris. In the coverage of darkness Namboodiris used to sleep to whosoever cleared the path and before dawn escaped from site. and those who objected path were removed declaring Brasht. That was the reason of fewer were accepted Christianity.
In fact Xians were lovable to Brahmans and that was the reason Mr. A.P Udayabhanu, writer, once wrote that even though least bottom level caste people who merged to Xianity people were approachable and was acceptable the things which were preached to the temple. Me try to put here about the event which Mr. A.P. Udayabhanu, from the family of Mr. T.K. Madhavan who took part in the Vaikam Satyagraha (Skhetra Praveshana Satyagraham) who was crashed by the Travancore Police and after prolonged illness himself died.
It was the festival months of Travancore, on taking harvests every Devi- Devatas visits their devotees dwellings for %u201CPara edukkal purpose%u201D, and at near about dawn the grand mothor of Komalezhuth ( Komalezhuth is the house of the ancestors of Mr. T.K. Madhavan and it locates at north west zone of Chettikulangara Devi Temple and
Me read your note of 2nd June, 2007 and felt something informative, so is this.
In your note, your quote of EM Shankaran Namboothiri %u201Cdespised these Christians as %u201CMlechhanmar%u201D is some thing unbelievable because as your mention, %u201CSome Namboodiri families were believed to have accepted xian faith%u201D was due to the harsh thinking only of Nambo
Indian economy is doing well and the most suffered is US, a recent article from Antiwar website clearly explains the strategy of US Govt n US MNCs.
Pepsi n Coke definitly have toxic contents that slowly destroys the grey matter of ur brain. It destroys ur brain n slowly, the biggest boon of Indians will be destroyed by these soft drinks. Our young generations will loose their IQ and have memory problems in a very younger age.
US plays Shia Sunni pranks in Iraq n Pakistan. They cant use the same in India, so they are trying their best to raise communal hatred thru Christians supported by missionaries here.
Its a fact that the compared to the size of population, the money coming for Christian missionary works is more than any religion and the way they work in North Eastern states n in the South obviously reveals their motive. When Hindus n muslims stood together to defeat the Brits, they used religion n now when we are together for the growth of our country, foreigners are using the same technique to divide us. Pakistan is funded by US n terrorists are funded by Pakistan, the purpose is not to preach Islam but to divide us. Lets stand together, Hindus, muslims, christians n all, we are Indians, we are btter than many countries, even US n China, letz not fall in their traps, having a highly educated generation of youngsters, we will lead our country to love n peace.
RE:Planned action
by Tinda on Jun 07, 2007 12:20 PM Permalink
George:
Why are you unable to admit shortcomings and fundamentalism in your own faith. You have no problem in cursing Hindus and Muslim "fundamentalists". Why are you unable to admit that there are christian fundamentalists too?
RE:Planned action
by Sameer on Jun 07, 2007 11:57 AM Permalink
Grt.....
So Mr.George Abraham is the person who is reporting abuse...
I am Sameer Menon, I have frenz from all religions... I am not against Christianity but there are many hidden agendas for them. Read about the neocons in US n their tie up with Jews. Read about the hidden agenda of US in the Nuclear contract with India... Read about the future plans of Christian Extremist Organisations in US.
Go to Google n search, u will get everything u want... I between, bro we know, when we Hindus n muslims were busy in driving brits, u guyz were busy with preaching Christianity here...
RE:RE:Planned action
by Siva sundaram on Jun 07, 2007 12:20 PM Permalink
you muslim brethren are treated with all forms of fantasies in the mosque, i believe. I am sure one of the cleric told you this.
RE:Planned action
by George Abraham on Jun 07, 2007 12:13 PM Permalink
I did not report for abuse. If I did why should I reply? There is nothing wrong in preaching christianity. Because christianity is not only for christians but for all. If someone is thinking of killing people he is against the teachings of Jesus Christ. But if you think that preaching of christianity is a crime or sin, it is your mistake.
Yes, i am a little ashamed............becasue i' ve been reading a little too much of the Bhagvad Gita, the Bhagavatham, the Upanishads , the brahma Sutra.
I see a Hinduism in here which is not preset in any of these scriptures
RE:Reply to by mn on Jun 07, 2007 09:25 AM on
by thahalka on Jun 07, 2007 11:35 AM Permalink
But there is applied version of Brahma Sutra... called Kama Sutra..... which you may observe everywhere
RE:RE:Reply to by mn on Jun 07, 2007 09:25 AM on
by sheila das on Jun 07, 2007 11:50 AM Permalink
I am sure that u re speaking about Sir Richard F. Burton' s English translation of the great work by MAharshi Vatsyana.It is nothing but a mockery of the original work of the great Rishi.
How can u translate "%u0927%u0930%u094D%u092E%u0967%u0930%u094D%u0925-%u0915%u0967%u092E%u0947%u092D%u094D%u092F%u094B %u0928%u092E%u0939%u094D%u0967%u0964Dharmartha %u2013kamae bhyo namaha" ? ? ? well..........it cant go beyond "i salute dharma! wealth! and desires!"........But that is not what the great Rishi meant .
RE:Reply to by mn on Jun 07, 2007 09:25 AM on
by sheila das on Jun 07, 2007 11:48 AM Permalink
I am sure that u re speaking about Sir Richard F. Burton' s English translation of the great work by MAharshi Vatsyana.It is nothing but a mockery of the original work of the great Rishi.
How can u translate "%u0927%u0930%u094D%u092E%u0967%u0930%u094D%u0925-%u0915%u0967%u092E%u0947%u092D%u094D%u092F%u094B %u0928%u092E%u0939%u094D%u0967%u0964Dharmartha %u2013kamae bhyo namaha" ? ? ? well..........it cant go beyond "i salute dharma! wealth! and desires!"........But that is not what the great Rishi meant .
RE:RE:Reply to by mn on Jun 07, 2007 09:25 AM on
by sheila das on Jun 07, 2007 11:51 AM Permalink
RE:Reply to by mn on Jun 07, 2007 09:25 AM on by sheila das on Jun 07, 2007 11:48 AM
I am sure that u re speaking about Sir Richard F. Burton' s English translation of the great work by MAharshi Vatsyana.It is nothing but a mockery of the original work of the great Rishi.
How can u translate, "Dharmartha %u2013kamae bhyo namaha " ? ? ? well..........it cant go beyond "i salute dharma! wealth! and desires!"........But that is not what the great Rishi meant .
If Ravi has true faith he should not have asked such questions? In mythology and Rituals there is no logic and question mark.. you just believe it and simply follow the tradition. If his priority is to please the God and present valuable offerings that can be done from the outside the temple.... Like KJ Yesudas and Gyani Zail Singh did.
I used to Visit Guruvayur and put my offerings outside, chant mantra from outside.......though I am a Hindu... simply because not to make overcrowd inside. Last but least Guruvayurappan has no shortsight
In West Bengal there is tradion of bringing clay from the land of prostitutes before Durga Puja, there is a tradition nobody argue on that. The persons like Ravi may argue why not the clay from his house?
I wonder as to why people are wanting to enter the so called important TEMPLES impatiently. Is it not the truth that all the BIG TEMPLES are a facade of falsity; a curtain behind which the two pillars- Priest & Politician conspire to make money.
Divinity espoused in the physical prescence by a STONE is a mute spectator to the MAYAJAL being esposed by the two P's....what can he do...times have changed....he can no longer use the TRISHUL or the DISCUS to teach the two P's a lesson.
Lets take it upon ourselves to teach the two P's a lesson----stop going to the so called BIG TEMPLES----beleive in the GODS that reside....but pray from your soul and the INTERNET.
RE:RE:RE:TEMPLES-Abodes of sleaze, corruption and lots of other vices
by on Jun 07, 2007 11:49 AM Permalink
Anup Nair, Could you please try to explain to Ravi that going to big temples is useless. If the promises to stay away, it will be good for all concerned.
RE:TEMPLES-Abodes of sleaze, corruption and lots of other vices
by on Jun 07, 2007 11:49 AM Permalink
Anup Nair, Could you please try to explain to Ravi that going to big temples is useless. If the promises to stay away, it will be good for all concerned.
RE:TEMPLES-Abodes of sleaze, corruption and lots of other vices
by Dheeraj Akula on Jun 07, 2007 11:46 AM Permalink
Falsity is present everywhere, not just in temples and other places of worship.
It is present in the government, software companies, families, relationships and every department of life.
There are so many temples in Kerala and India which allow entry to ppl from all following. Why target one single temple which does not allow. Ditto for Sabarimala. None of the mosques allow women, but when it comes to sabarimala, there was a huge hue & cry about it. If a certain temple has a rule, why cant we just follow it? Why should we make a big issue out of this? Anyways, we are bearing the consequence of allowing ppl of all faith into Tirupathi.
any religion you take has a set of rules and regulations....do this dont do that,if this happens do this and do this so that this doesnt happen....sadly over a period of time we humans have forgotten the purpose of religion....religion is a way of life adopted by a society to live and let live...if a god forbids anyone from entering his temple,mosque,church,he is not a god...and afterall can there be a god without believers...moreover we need to change traditions with time...practility is one thing and nostalgia is another thing...we should be able to balance betwn both....thats what the priests or popes or imams are supposed to do....
RE:religious is synonyms with orthodox.....
by Sameer on Jun 07, 2007 11:23 AM Permalink
India is going well ahead of many countries in economic progress and the most suffered is US, a recent article from Antiwar website clearly explains the strategy of US Govt n US MNCs.
Pepsi n Coke definitly have toxic contents that slowly destroys the grey matter of ur brain. It destroys ur brain n slowly, the biggest boon of Indians will be destroyed by these soft drinks. Our young generations will loose their IQ and have memory problems in a very younger age.
US plays Shia Sunni pranks in Iraq n Pakistan. They cant use the same in India, so they are trying their best to raise communal hatred thru Christians supported by missionaries here.
Its a fact that the compared to the size of population, the money coming for Christian missionary works is more than any religion and the way they work in North Eastern states n in the South obviously reveals their motive. When Hindus n muslims stood together to defeat the Brits, they used religion n now when we are together for the growth of our country, foreigners are using the same technique to divide us. Pakistan is funded by US n terrorists are funded by Pakistan, the purpose is not to preach Islam but to divide us. Lets stand together, Hindus, muslims, christians n all, we are Indians, we are btter than many countries, even US n China, letz not fall in their traps, having a highly educated generation of youngsters, we will lead our country to love n peace.
RE:religious is synonyms with orthodox.....
by Siva sundaram on Jun 07, 2007 12:27 PM Permalink
Sameer has been brainwashed in the mosque, by the mullahs.
