A christian is one who follows Christ. In this particular issue, V Ravi's wife is not a christian. She is a catholic. So please stop writing about christians and their faith.
You may not consider her a Christian, but many consider herslef to be so.
Secondly, here Christianity is being discussed because some of the Christian readers passed comments on Hinduism. The dicussion goes into discussion of all religions.
RE:RE:Christian
by a saravanan on Jun 06, 2007 06:55 PM Permalink
Deepak before you write anything else. You should know Who is a Christian? Who is a Catholic? You cannot consider someone has a Christian.
RE:Christian
by ems nnn on Jun 06, 2007 06:30 PM Permalink
Dear Pentecostal Brother. The Catholics of Kerala are nationalist Christians not like pentecostal Christians of north east who are taking arms against India. Do not put blame on catholics alone for all mistakes Christians have done
RE:Christian
by a saravanan on Jun 06, 2007 06:53 PM Permalink
I am not blaming anyone. I just told not to write unwanted things about christians. As i have said earlier. Christians are those who follow Christ. Not everybody who has a christian name is a christian.
I am not sure whether what the temple did is against the spirit of Indian constitution.
There are many other things that are definitely against the spirit of Indian constitution. The never-ending reservations, more and more reservations to all and sundry, more and more castes clamoruing for "BACKWARD" status and reservations, the Prime Minister announcing that the Muslims has the first right on the country's resources (why???) and so on.
Christians evangelising the poor people goes directly against the spirit of secularism and the freedom of religion granted by the Indian constituition.
If you are really concerned about the "spirit of Indian constitution", there are thousands of other things that you must be conecrned about.
Please don't waste your time here. Go and do your "crusade" there.
Thirdly, I feel the the priest has subtly admitted that he is weighed down by his own guilt and perhaps is rethinking all this himself. It is quite clear that he is not sure of the correctness of this philosophy in this day and age. Why else would he bring his late father and point to his father's actions as an excuse for his own? Why else would he bring his son and his brother into the whole argument? If he were sure in his beliefs and firm in his stand, he need to clutch on these straws. He must be brave enough to face the world and say that yes, I did it and I think it is right. INSTEAD - see what he said - I DONT MAKE THE LAWS ... This is a clever ploy to take the cover an impregnable source, all organised religions do this to perpetuate their power and hold on the masses just appeal to a source - which has been corrupted by centuries - but one that is no longer open to questions. I dont spare anyone here, Hindu, Buddhist, Christian, Islamic and Jewish power centres all indulge in the same religious power games. Those who are educated enough to come read this in rediff, make religion your personal issue - appeal to your innerselves for the right answers - you will be heared - you will be answered. Let no organised religion corrupt you by swaying you into supporting their power games.
"stop all governmental support to this temple and its institutions of priesthood until it opens its doors to all devotees"
Government does not support any of the temples in India. It is the reverse. The government takes the money offered by various devotees to the temples and uses the money for "SECULAR" activities.
RE:To Subrahmshu Bhattacharya
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Jun 06, 2007 07:01 PM Permalink
Dheeraj: Bhattacharya is NOT aware that Govt steals from Hindu temples (and in many cases gives that to maintain Church, Masques), because these are limited to Southern India.
Thankfully in Norther, Western or Eastern India, this would have never been allowed.
The Tanthri said, "my son Satheesan and my younger brother Chennas Vasudevan Namboodiripad, who used to be a scientist with ISRO, currently assist me". His brother USED TO BE a scientist and is no longer an ISRO scientist.
RE:RE:No one is allowed to speak other than above subject
by SHAHRUKH NIZAMI on Jun 06, 2007 05:25 PM Permalink
If you are a gentle man, and you were discussing the right topic, why your posting got deleted from here? ha ha ha.. If you know how to disscuss and what to disscuss here then it would not happened with your postings... GROW UP AND BE GENTLE.
RE:No one is allowed to speak other than above subject
by Dheeraj Akula on Jun 06, 2007 05:40 PM Permalink
Are you new to Rediff? Not always, but definitely sometimes, very good, meaningful, polite and non-abusive posts get permanently removed here. It has happened to many people. Even the Rediff's moderators are human beings, they also have their own weaknesses.
RE:No one is allowed to speak other than above subject
by Dheeraj Akula on Jun 06, 2007 05:19 PM Permalink
This issue also includes allowing non-Hindus into Hindu temples, the dangers of allowing non-Hindus into Hindu temples (such as propagating their religions inside Hindu temples), our politicians and their vote banks and their concern for ethics and values.
RE:No one is allowed to speak other than above subject
by a saravanan on Jun 06, 2007 05:52 PM Permalink
I am a Christian now. Since last 8 years. I was a hindu earlier not anymore. I still have the same name. I didnt change my name. This doesnt mean i am afraid. There are so many people in this world with christian names [John/Paul/Michael] that doesnt mean they all are christians. Nobody becomes christian by having a christian name. To become a christian you need to follow the Christ
RE:No one is allowed to speak other than above subject
by a saravanan on Jun 06, 2007 07:21 PM Permalink
Are you blind? Did you not read my message properly?
I can truly say allah is not my god. I AM A CHRISTIAN.
RE:RE:No one is allowed to speak other than above subject
by Dheeraj Akula on Jun 06, 2007 06:05 PM Permalink
You may not be afraid. There ae many Christians, who try to hide that they are Christians.
I used the word, "afraid". It may not be the perfect word. What I meant is some Christians definitely want to hide that they are Christians. It is my observation of my some of my Christian colleagues at work. I never knew that some of them were Christians. They deliberately hid it. Perhaps, they suffer from guilty conscience.
You may not be like them. Anyway, the message was not for you.
RE:RE:RE:No one is allowed to speak other than above subject
by a saravanan on Jun 06, 2007 07:03 PM Permalink
Why would someone hide that they are christians? Can you put some light on your observations in detail?
RE:No one is allowed to speak other than above subject
by a saravanan on Jun 06, 2007 05:55 PM Permalink
Christ [Jesus] is God, no doubt about it. But he came to this world has a man for you and me.
RE:No one is allowed to speak other than above subject
by Aris on Jun 06, 2007 06:43 PM Permalink
mr saravanan then how can you be a monoethic or followers of Abrahemic faith if you are confirming here two Gods.... GOd himself & Jesus
RE:No one is allowed to speak other than above subject
by a saravanan on Jun 06, 2007 07:00 PM Permalink
Jesus is the Son of God. Came into this world has a man. To pay the price for our sins. He died for our sins, so that we maybe saved and have eternal life
RE:No one is allowed to speak other than above subject
by Arun Nair on Jun 07, 2007 07:03 PM Permalink
If Jesus has washed away the sins of all the people, then does it mean that people can live theior lives the way they want?? Thwey won't be punished .. right?? any ways, thatr's wahat all you Christians do
It was merely a two-line message, where I thanked you (Anand Iyer) for your advice, "One may criticise the negative points of others' faiths. But more productive is propogating positive things." and said that I am also a fan of Bhagawad Gita and next time, I will post a few messages from Gita.
This was totally non-abusive. It was not against any person or any religion. In fact, I was thanking Mr. Anand Iyer. Why was the message permanently removed? Is it because it was a pro-Hindu message?
