RE:Why!
by Kumar on Jun 06, 2007 04:32 AM Permalink
Ankur he went to conduct a religious ceremony for his infant grandson. In his interview the minister mentioned that his other grandson (the elder brother of this infant) died as a toddler and hence the mother of the infant made a promise to visit the God's temple and feed the infant's first solid food inside the temple. This was to get the God's blessing and protection for the infant. What's wrong with this?
RE:Why!
by ankur singh on Jun 06, 2007 04:55 AM Permalink
Dude when people know that some temples are finicky abt trivial things then why to even make a wish to go to such temples..there are so many other temples in India..go to someother one if you know how things go on in a particular temple... and it was Mr.Ravi's or his wife's choice to go there..why to blame the priest who is bound to do such things as per temple's rule...
RE:Why!
by Kumar on Jun 06, 2007 05:46 AM Permalink
Really? So when the British wrote on restaurants that Indians and dogs are not allowed we should have simply ignored the place. When Gandhi got thrown out of train because he was brown it was okay, since he shouldn't have riden the train. We should have allowed the British and Muslims to rule India. You correct evil practices you don't shut your eyes to them. That's how humanity progresses and good wins over evil.
RE:Why!
by Seven Maniacs on Jun 06, 2007 09:38 AM Permalink
psst... he wasn't stopped from entering... nor was he thrown out... nor did he not get his job done. And please... your concept of EVIL certainly can be different from others'.
no big deal in this issue...What the priest prescribed was a ritual of cleansing based on ancient tradition. This may or may not be relevant today but as a the head priest he is entitled to maintain the traditions and rituals governing Guruvayur temple. And that's what needs to be debated - definitely not Vayalar Ravi's humiliation. And for the benefit of others, most in kerala frequenting Guruvayur are aware these rituals are strictly followed, for ex. if small children throw up.
RE:its all about following a tradition.
by sudhanshu shekhar singh on Jun 06, 2007 03:36 AM Permalink
As you correctly said, the topic to be debated is the rituals being followed. To religion restricts people with faith from following it. Because this guyz mother is not a hindu, it doesn't make any sense to "clean" the temple after his visit. This is a very bad form of discrimination, and the temple authorities should do away with such rules if they want to maintain their status as proponents of religion.
A child throwing up something creating physical uncleanliness is very different from this case.
RE:RE:its all about following a tradition.
by ramesis on Jun 06, 2007 04:03 AM Permalink
apart from clearing up the mess there is also a ritual attached :-)
Somebody reported my last message as abuse - I am sorry, I did not intend to. I want people to read it. So, I have removed somethings from it.
These temple priests are not as nice people as one would assume guardians of religions to be. All they are interested in is carrying out their brahminical rituals so that they do not accumulate any bad karma. One will not find many of these genuinely interested in helping people, or doing some good for them. They are just interested in making people follow religious rituals rigorously. They can mouth as many shlokas as you ask them to, they supposedly love god, but they lack love for their fellow people. No religion talks of discriminating among people, atleast not among those who have faith in it, no matter what their background be. It is because of people like these that we have such a strongly caste based society even today. These priests are extremely orthodox in their attitudes, and if it was up to these people, we still would have been a primitive society. I will mention a small incident that took place when I was 12. I wanted to put some money in the temple. First, I put it in front of a deity in an open plate. Then I thought it would be a better idea to put in the donation box, since it is closed, and hence safer. And I slipped the money in the box. Seeing that, the priest yelled at me like hell. According to him, it was not right to take money back from that plate. I told him why I did so, but that didn't matter to him. He wa
These temple priests are incorrigible people. They do not have any common sense, and no humanity at all. All they are interested in is carrying out their brahminical rituals so that they do not accumulate any paap. If they feel like killing somebody is required for their service towards their religion, they will do that. They can mouth as many shlokas as you ask them to, but they do not have the basic humanity. No religion talks of discriminating among people, atleast not among those who have faith in it, no matter what their background be. It is because of people like these that we have such a strongly caste based society even today. These priests are extremely orthodox in their attitudes, and i it was up to these people, we still would have been a primitive society.
RE:HINDUISM ??? NO SCOPE
by Inadvertently Human on Jun 06, 2007 02:18 AM Permalink
Thats a crappy idea! There are numerous options available for lower castes such as ISKCON, Vedantha Soceity etc. Please dont try to take advantage of casteic problems in Hinduism.
RE:RE:HINDUISM ??? NO SCOPE
by indiman on Jun 06, 2007 02:56 AM Permalink
mullahjehadali, i think you should focus ur energies on improving your fellow muslims who live in poverty almost 95% of your fellow muslims live below the poverty line, so do that first before thinking about hindu girls and all that nonsense. I am sure even muslim girls dont talk to nonsense like you.
RE:RE:RE:HINDUISM ??? NO SCOPE
by reddy saisurendranath on Jun 06, 2007 03:14 AM Permalink
Idiots who fight for Sunni shia xyz they too speak this rubbish. As ambedkar said thereis no better religion other than Budhism
