Is the caste system really abolished in India??? I dont think so...The recent reservation quota for the OBC's jus proved that...I think that the reservation should be based solely on the monetary status of the families as of today..as for the oppressed castes... who are the oppressed??? i dont see any person in India being in an oppressed condition..except for those living below the poverty line...i sincerely hope that the government will take notice of what is going on in the Country...otherwise the country will become a land of bloodshed due to caste induced riots...
RE:Casteism Really abolished???
by prantik bhattacharjee on Jun 03, 2007 12:05 PM Permalink
quota system is to be abolished, its the HR to find the policy for the economically backward family to give benifit upto certain level. Otherwise we will have to face all these kind of problems in near future always.
We are probably the only country in the world where masses clash for getting branded as oppressed. They have so much strength to fight for their oppressed rights. There are lot of countries where certain groups were really oppressed, like some tribes in Africa were sold as slaves by the more dominent ones, attempts at ethinic cleansing took place even in the history of Europe, yet there are no reservations based on historical oppression. USA has accorded some benefit to African Americans based on the current state of their being and not any historical oppression. Politicians are not to blame, they are not leaders but are followers, all of them try to play by winning the popular sentiment, some of them succeed sometimes and fail sometimes. The middleclass which voted for BJP, Shiv Sena, TDP now is happily immersed in the bliss of economic development, they are barely able to manage time to spend the monthly salaries in the glittering shopping complexes of the crowded cities leave alone going the polling booth. The politicians are the first to read the signs and hence the new wave of reservations aimed at winning the people likely to vote. This new system will not create more education for the so called oppressed since all the top class institutes of higer education will no more be topclass...as the student composition will no longer be based on merit. However the government machinery will be full of the so called oppressed, the government jobs are ideal ..here one does not
as India is going to degenerate into a civil war based on the millions of caste each fighting to preserve its own dominance and looking at other caste as its enemy.
RE:This is just the beginning
by partha sen gupta on Jun 03, 2007 12:06 PM Permalink
Abdul Shaikh please mind your language and dont forget that we bengali people given adequate respect to your community at bengal, if you make any further comments in this regards will be lead to kicked out your community from Bengal. We bengali will never tolerate such non sense comments bcoz we are better literate than any community in our country. So it is to advise you not to compare any bengali people with rest of the country people otherwise you will face the coensequences. take this as last warning to you, dont try to comment on any bengali people.
RE:RE:This is just the beginning
by Abdullah Saikh on Jun 03, 2007 02:26 PM Permalink
I think r u migrate from East Bengal"Bangal",you may go yr mother land in Bangla desh!!!
RE:This is just the beginning
by Abdullah Saikh on Jun 03, 2007 02:41 PM Permalink
You Hindus allways maintained cast system since many 1000 of years!!!Only Brahamin hv right to go inside Mandir & do puja!!Why??? You brahamin hindus allways treated to others is lower cast,it's very sad when we see brahamin dont allow to go anybody infront of him/her!!!!
These are the real revolutionary leaders who have worked hard to bring social justice in India. They should be rightly facilitated for their service to the nation. Gujjar agitation showed that people are awakened and want justice. Like down south, north should also come out of the clutches (already loosing the grip) of anti social minded self claimed meritorious backless but notorious people. It is very important that all the dalits and BCs should get come to the power to spread the fruits of independence. These great visionaries tirelessly worked for this cause. Now happily most of the states are ruled by the oppressed class people. Though the anti social elements tried to capture the power dividing the people in the name of religion, the attempt has been successfully foiled by these great leaders. Because, they have to depend on these original inhabitance of India to sit in power at the center. For example, BJP simply do not remember now a days Ram temple movement! And Common civil law, they do not even talk about it. Nobody knows what are their policies now a days except enjoying air-conditioned life. Vajpayee now a days, goes to Kullu-manali for drinking and enjoying something! Adavanis goes to attened RSS meetings wearing funny trousers..ha..ha..ha..You can hear just snoring(not roaring) sound from the den of Thackreys in Mumbai. All these things happened just because of these great leaders. These sorts of agitations are not unexpected but welcome change, though ant
RE:Award Bharat Ratna to Periyar, Karuna Nidhi, V.P.Singh and Arjun Singh
by himanshu purohit on Jun 03, 2007 09:38 AM Permalink
fucku dam shit, just because of your kind of people india is suffering,this is not posititve bluddy,it is dangerous for country and its peace.what about poor general boys ,who couldnt afford study,leaving and nobody is in their support.so shut thefucking mouth close and got to hell.
RE:Award Bharat Ratna to Periyar, Karuna Nidhi, V.P.Singh and Arjun Singh
by Ravi Jain on Jun 03, 2007 10:29 AM Permalink
Let stupid VP Sigh be denied all medical eexcept from PBC doctors and that too in GOVT hospital.He enjoys at tax pyer`s cost treatment in USA.Does this man has constious????He may be ROBOT. Ravi Jain Dehradun
RE:Award Bharat Ratna to Periyar, Karuna Nidhi, V.P.Singh and Arjun Singh
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Jun 03, 2007 08:51 AM Permalink
Problem here is, DMK boss shared power with BJP for 6 years at the center. And VP Singh was dependent on BJP too:)-
As far as Periyar is concerned, his statue was smashed recently by his own 'caste' people. Three out of 4 caught for smashing Periyar Statue belonged to his OWN caste:)-
RE:Award Bharat Ratna to Periyar, Karuna Nidhi, V.P.Singh and Arjun Singh
by R on Jun 03, 2007 10:15 AM Permalink
"DMK boss shared power with BJP" "VP Singh was dependent on BJP" these are electoral politics. congress has a horrible record sleeping with the enemy too. bjp has been the underdog so far, thats why the compulsion to come to power. what abt congress, who has waylaid every rule in the book, or created rules themselves. indira gandhi has been horrendous with her regime. besides the entire caste mess has been created by the congress by the way of minority appeasement, more so in the name of "human face" now. right now they are mocking at the poor and "making faces" at them!
Believe me people, we have created a monster the first day when we had inducted the quota system in our constitution....It has started, students clashing, SC-ST clashing amongst themselves....it has started...the whell of Indias devlopment would slow down if we do not take a strong action now....
RE:what a monster have we created...or shall i say politicians created..
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Jun 03, 2007 08:44 AM Permalink
Why blaming politicians alone. Why not 'eminent'historians, sociologists like Romila Thapars and other marxists who made caste main Axis of Indian History, Sociology.
Prior to partition, Marxists circulated multi-nation theory for Hindus thus dividing Bengalis, Biharis, Tamils based on Language. Though they accepted Jinnah's proposal of "MUslims as a separate nation".
And then Hindus were divided alomng caste, used it in study, analysis everywhere.
Now, India is not only Divided along religion, Hindus are divided horizontally along caste lines as well.
Now the REAL FUN will begin. WITH THEDECLINE OF BJP AND CONGRESS - Marxists, Mayavatis will rise to rule India (if at all it exists). AND WE ARE ALSO SEEING A HUGE RISE OF MUSLIM ASSERTIVENESS.
RE:what a monster have we created...or shall i say politicians created..
by R on Jun 03, 2007 10:19 AM Permalink
"Who knows, we may even see Muslim Reservation." that'll be the last straw for communal people. also for rights in general. why have preferential groups in the first place ? if everyone wants a piece of the turf guaranteed without merit .... civil war is certain then.
RE:indian need military rule, earn and enjoy ,,, by pusparaj sahoo on Jun 03, 2007 07:32 AM it is true that the politicians are the troublemakers of today.the result is burdened on our motherland. we need true nationalist who must set as role models for young mass ready to do everything for the matherland. i think our president Dr Kalam is the right man (who is also the supreme commander of our armed forces),who must be given all powers assisted by the armed forces to clean up all those who love the motherland on paper only. there must be no compromise on our motherland whose ever it may be. JAI HIND!
RE:nation comes first
by kaushik chakraborty on Jun 03, 2007 07:45 AM Permalink
BHarat Mata ki jai....doston aaj din ahin kuch kar dikhane ka...aj hum aapas mein ladne lagein hain, bhai bhai ko mar raha hain, Ram - Rahim khud mein lad rahen hain....yeh sapna to na tha Hamare swantrata sangramiyon ka....dhikaar hain hum sabhi par...
RE:indian need military rule, earn and enjoy ,,,
by pusparaj sahoo on Jun 03, 2007 07:32 AM Permalink
it is true that the politicians are the troublemakers of today.the result is burdened on our motherland. we need true nationalist who must set as role models for young mass ready to do everything for the matherland. i think our president Dr Kalam is the right man (who is also the supreme commander of our armed forces),who must be given all powers assisted by the armed forces to clean up all those who love the motherland on paper only. there must be no compromise on our motherland whose ever it may be. JAI HIND!
RE:Rajasthan burning
by hkb pihani on Jun 03, 2007 01:01 PM Permalink
It is the congres who take us this position when we can say anything to anyone and what we are consuming the joyness bcz congress, offcaurse they did the mistake that will happen everywhere.it is the congress man who bring us freedom and its rights. BJP can do anything in india like after Godhra incident Ayodhya incident they only can say it the mass who did it otherwise it did't happen , we are so fooooool we felt our mistake and forgive them. Dear friends it is the right system where we growing slowly slowly. we must understand this is the big country and we have to wait for our growth and experience such type of incident and above all we have to work hard for our country's growth
RE:Rajasthan burning
by Bhupinder Singh on Jun 03, 2007 05:55 AM Permalink
congress needs power, to weaken india, its unity,,, they are kapil sibbal, followers of p k anand and khan type big advocate
