What's interesting about this jail term is the fact that he has been punished under Arms Act for illegal possession of weapons. Posession of weapons for self defence is a fundamental right in USA, emanating from an individual's right to defend himself and his property and thus protect one's sovereignty over oneself. The moot question is that any law which can't guarantee full security to its people and itself makes provisions for self-defence can't disallow people to keep arms for self defence. It's ridiculous to do otherwise. Indian Law is one such stupid law. It's unfair to punish a person for something which, at the first place, is not a crime by natural law and secondly when he has been acquited under TADA (which would actually be a crime, if commited, and whose real offenders are moving freely and running business). This judgement of Indian Government of Indian Law only further shows the impotency of Indian Government and Indian Law, which is never able to bring the real culprits to tethers and gives strictest punishment possible to those who are weak and thus helpless. I fail to understand how come India makes more errors when it develops closer ties with developed countries like USA??? It's ironical!
RE:Sanjay's Jail Term
by buddys buddy on Jul 31, 2007 02:20 PM Permalink
Thank you for the sympathy shown toward your favourite actor. In US People are allowed to have weapons for self defence; agreed. But AK47 for self defence? where is the license? is it not a crime. Dont try to act too smart, by comparing with US. Have you ever been to US? I think you are born and brought up in India. US is not a model state. Please change your mindset.
RE:Sanjay's Jail Term
by on Jul 31, 2007 02:42 PM Permalink
I agree with you, This judgement of Indian Government of Indian Law only further shows the impotency of Indian Government and Indian Law, I qoute your writting, But its the a kind of short cut to indian Penal code provided to help Incompetent Investgating officers and agencies to nail any person to show that they have solved the case. May I take the liberty to ask if during that sad time holding legal or illegal weapon is a person terrorist.
Sir to top it, in recent judgement of state human right commission maharashtra said that that draconian law MOCOCA is Civil offence, where shall poor man go for help.God help us all
RE:Sanjay's Jail Term
by Indian on Jul 31, 2007 02:22 PM Permalink
Possession of arms for self-protection is legal in India also, but you need license for it without which every TD or H will start having one and using it to kill at wish and the disposing it off claiming he never had it. Also, you need to buy it from a licensed vendor not a Bhai. You cannot understand this simple english and you still have the audacity to lecture on ethics?
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by George on Jul 31, 2007 02:18 PM Permalink
AK 56 for self defence? You will be shot dead if you carried AK 56 in the US.
RE:Sanjay's Jail Term
by Mandar Hingne on Jul 31, 2007 02:38 PM Permalink
The developed country like USA has its own law to protect peoples; the do belive their own law; the peoples in USD resepect their law; They are their own, i think we should not compaire India and USA or any other country. See India has its own law, own we must make sure that we must do respect our law. India is facing terrerisom very badly since 50 yrs we are facing this things, terrerist are hiding in normal public, in such circumstances.. illegal possession of arms is a crime and should be punished. I do belive that our law is one of the best law in the owrld. But the things is peoples are not beliving it. And poples not beliving somboday takes undue advantages of this things. We can stand against our protection issue. Govt. has to do if peoples stand against this. I want u ask 1 question - WHAT WE DID FOR OUR NATION? - Do we respect even trafic rules, why we aren't? thats is not four our security our life.. aren't they. If we are not respect then how will rules works.? So very first respect our nation our constitution. then we can talk abt other things.
The Judge needs to be lauded for this landmark verdit... criminals like Mr. Sanjay Dutt... needs to be punished even more severely because he has not done a petty crime but he has severly offended his very own country and country men... the same people who que up for hours to see his movie...his fans who showered so much love and respect on him which he never deserved and poor people whose money made him what he is today... he needs no mercy just because he has daughter... his actions have led to the killing of hundreds of daughters, mothers and fathers...! He must be banned from any further public appearance... movies...every thing and his entire wealth should be confiscated and distributed among the victims of the blast and he must be left to beg in the streets of mumbai with his daughter after he comes out of jail...
The law should be above all the thing,every body should be equal in term of law.Thats how a counrty progress equality, not appeasement, truth and honesty not psycophancy and chamchagiri.These ethics will take a country and its people to progress, peace and happiness.When sanjay dutt committed these serious crimes he was matured individual not an adolescent.He should have thought what he was doing.You have to reap what you sow. Law of karma.Yes he should not be left, for being an aid of terrorism and killing innocent human beings.
Its really good to see the people in this message board accepting the fact. In the previous article everybody were crying that he should be free to entertain them. If he has done the crime he has to take the punishment.
But people please dont support actors who are in connection with Underworld.
And South India were given left and right for supporting sivaji and Rajini for no reasons. And Northies also have their face now.
The bombing incidents in Pakistan, the undue sufferings undergone by Dr.Haneef,the innocent Indian Doctor in Australia and the judgement against Sanjay Dutt should clearly give a strong message for those who believe in terrorism as a means of achieving things in a civilized society. Pakistan is facing the music for its own blunders of breeding and support to terrorism. Dr.Haneef, though a nice man had undergone an unforgettable truama of his life for his association with anti-social elements. The judgement on Snajay Dutt made it clear that nobody is above law, however great he mught be and as well proved the zero tolerance of our judiciary to terrorist activities.
RE:LESSONS FROM TERRORISM
by Sameer on Jul 31, 2007 02:27 PM Permalink
I am shocked why no body comments on the political personalities responsible for Babri Masjid demolition & the subsequent riots in Mumbai also other parts of country. The culprit who have ignited fire are free & innocent public carried away in emotions provoked by such politicians are given punishments. During riots Sarpotdar was also cought red handed with arms. Why he is free & relaxed. Due to such injustice people get frustrated & have no chice but to adopt wrong path of achieving there revange & are thereby tiltled as terrorist. Justice shoud not be influenced by, political power, money power, religion etc. Then there will be peace & confidence of security in all citizens of India.
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by mohammed yousuf on Jul 31, 2007 02:24 PM Permalink
Mr. Murthy You are absolutely correct, but where is the law and judgement of the victims of gujrat carnage remember 2002 feb/mar, where thousands of innocent people has been killed without any reason by khaki neckers. where is the law and judgement? i hope same ruling and judmenet for the killers of gujrat innocents. thanks
I am not saying that sanju is not guilty and should not be punished.but is it justified to punish a person for what he had done 14 years back. he should have been punished that time only.. but when sanju has sudhrofied and is living like a responsible citizen, is it justiied to punish him now..is it not wrong on our judiciary side to drag a case 15 years and punish a man when he has judhrofied and living a normal life..i am still not saying that he is not guilty but then our judiciary system is also to be blamed
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by Praveen on Jul 31, 2007 02:19 PM Permalink
now wen he is at the peak of his career he is punished. i am so happy. Hats off to you Judge! Dutt will now realise the pain of all the victims of bomb blasts.
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by Kishore on Jul 31, 2007 02:19 PM Permalink
in a country like India it will take more then 15 years also - some times, the judgement will come after the persons go to HEAVEN (hell)!!!
RE:justice?
by Dhiraj Agarwal on Jul 31, 2007 02:38 PM Permalink
Dilip, Very well said, I absolutely agree with you. I believe, despite of this complicated case, the court should not have spent so long and they are also to be blamed and there is a need for changing our judicial law. But I also feel that by punishing Sanju, court has done a right thing so that no other person whether it is a bollywood star or a politician or anyother person who thinks s/he has a power to do anything and would get away with it. It is also true that Sanju has changed since he had come out of jail, but that does not take away whatever he had done in the past. But this can be a good point to debate on "Whether a person who has become a responsible citizen should be punished for what s/he had done more than 10-15 years ago?" Is that reasonably fair? - Dhiraj
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by vibhor garg on Jul 31, 2007 02:17 PM Permalink
I too accept that its long since he has commited a crime...but my dear the image and living u r talking abt here is all that is created by media.... u never kn how he is living his life...and whatever he did the crime..and he deserved wat he got...i hoped he wud have got mre...bcoz what he did was crime against nation....and that for me was biggest crime one can do...
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by sampath mohapatra on Jul 31, 2007 02:16 PM Permalink
Oh yeah, tell this who have lost their dear ones in the bomb blast. And this jerk was involved with them. Dont tell me these guys look very friendly and Sanju Baba didn't know that they were into illegal activities if not ant- national.
RE:justice?
by Dhiraj Agarwal on Jul 31, 2007 02:36 PM Permalink
Dilip, Very well said, I absolutely agree with you. I believe, despite of this complicated case, the court should not have spent so long and they are also to be blamed and there is a need for changing our judicial law. But I also feel that by punishing Sanju, court has done a right thing so that no other person whether it is a bollywood star or a politician or anyother person who thinks s/he has a power to do anything and would get away with it. It is also true that Sanju has changed since he had come out of jail, but that does not take away whatever he had done in the past. But this can be a good point to debate on "Whether a person who has become a responsible citizen should be punished for what s/he had done more than 10-15 years ago?" Is that reasonably fair? - Dhiraj
