I hated Musharraf from the day he became known to outside world. I hated his participation and aggravating actions related to Kargil. I hated his hype during Agra Summit. I hated his attitude when he utilized Lunch with Indian editors at AGra. I hated his rhetoric when he said he is an ally for War against terrorism. At last now the Whole world knows Pakistan is the source of Menace called Terrorism. I dream of Pakistan with ruler who does not use antiIndia sentiments for his own survival
MR.NARAYANAN'S PREDICTION IS CORRECT. IT SHOULD BE CORRECT,BECAUSE COUNTRY LIKE PAKISTAN AND OVERALL ITS PRESENT RULER GEN.MUSHARAFF SEEMS TO BE HAND IN GLOVE WITH HIS GOVERNMENT BEUROCRATS. THE TIME HAS COME FOR MR.MUSHARAFF TO GO.IF NOT HIS ARMY COUNTERPARTS MAY ASK HIM TO STEP DOWN WITHOUT SHEDDING BLOOD OF INNOCENT CITIZENS.DITTO WHAT HE HAS DONE TO FORMER PRIME MINISTER MR.NAWAZ SHARIEFF, APPROX A DECADE AGO.
PKl. July 30 evening , Monday , 2007 Mr Mk Narayanan insinuates that there is likely understanding between lately reinstances CJ I.Chaudhury to his post by General Musharraf's plan to get elected by present pakistani Legislatures before the next come in and he gets the right to last next fiveyrs. to be vbe both Army -Chief in Uniform and president simultaneously. one wonders , if this murky deal , does any credit ( provided Sri Narayananhas good reasons to believe this to be true)to the Civil commotion since March in Pakistani civil society relating to CJ 's removal and violence in various cities and mofussil that almost assumed a wide-spread civilian protest.If this comes to be true then the Chief Justice Chaudhury would be proved as the Judas of Democracy for Islamic Jamooriyat.D. Goel
RE:destruction of islam already planned and being enacted by jihadis
by Shriniwas Deshpande on Jul 30, 2007 06:55 PM Permalink
Lal Masjid Episode was the first time Musharraf has done what he has spoken ...may be because Lal Masjid hurt the longtime friendly nation of Pakistan...that is China. Musharraf has feeling that China will always be his side whatever happens otherwise
RE:destruction of islam already planned and being enacted by jihadis
by meindian on Jul 30, 2007 07:04 PM Permalink
i think DUM is disturbed by some sensible discussions ,he like communal arguments..lalitkumar u r saying absolutely right, u can see only this last 10yrs this kind of radicalisation on islam ,,that is all because of this clerics or there political achievements mainly from pakistan to kill indians and spreaded through out the world
Pakistan like every knows is a failed state, but more importantly this is the problem of giving too much stress on religious matters, religion is only secondary it cant govern a persons thinking, So the theocratic society founded by Jinnah by eliminating the Hindus and Sikhs is destined only to disintegrate and destroyed- That is the rule of the god ( be large at heart, tolerate others, give to others and god will allwasy be with you,
RE:Pakistan Burning
by Shriniwas Deshpande on Jul 30, 2007 06:44 PM Permalink
You mean to say Pakistan is failing because it eliminated Hindus and Sikhs? I don't see any link ...and till recently the CJ of Pakistan was Mr Bhagwandas a Hindu
RE:Pakistan Burning
by Sumeer Sharma on Jul 30, 2007 07:52 PM Permalink
Mr.Bhagwandas became CJP for a short period only as a stop gap measure. Otherwise a Hindu or for that matter a Christian or even Ahmediya does not stand a chance in Pakistan.
RE:RE:Pakistan Burning
by Shriniwas Deshpande on Jul 30, 2007 06:47 PM Permalink
What is the meaning of phrase ..' God will always be with you'? Was God not with those who were killed in yesterday's Bomb blast at Srinagar?
RE:Pakistan Burning
by satya pal on Jul 30, 2007 07:48 PM Permalink
pakistan survives by the will of god.three A.A.A DOMONATE PAKISTAN.first A stands for ALLAH.second A stands for america.third A stands for army.pakisistani janta has no say.pakistan was created out of hate.they all by blood were one time hindus.but they curse hindus.their ancestors.they don't want to correct their mistakes.they are power hungry.only want short cut methods to achieve.no long term philosphy to flourish.every failure in relation is kashmir.ask bangladeshi they know the taste of pakistan's ruling.use of force against their own citizengeneral musharraf toppled the duly elected govt.by all fair or foul means he wants to remain in power.mrs benzir bhutto and mr.nawaz sharif be cautious of his game.you will see he will fall.because pakistan people have gained nothing.in world's opinion it is a terrorists supporting govt.no room left to project as economically progressig state.isi is supporting terrorists.the man who plays with fire,some times also engulfed with fire.india needs a progressing neighbour.
RE:Pakistan Burning
by Surendra Jamuar on Jul 30, 2007 08:23 PM Permalink
Satyapal is a good analyst.Pakistan was creation of hatrate with negative frame of mind.After creation they finished HINDU/Sikhs and christians then BANGLADESHIS and now within West PKISTANIS also.THEIR EXISTENCE IN ON HATE india FEELINGS.tHE ARMY FELLOWS know this that is why they need a soft India very badly.
It has been finally declared!! A proxy war which Pak has surreptiously been waging against India for many years has finally caught up with them!!
Now they know what it means to use religion for your personal gains!! These ill-adviced politicos do not know what kind of a nuclear device they have created by stoking the fires of religious hatred to achieve political ambitions. We also, at a regional level use this for smaller political gains!!
Now see what is the result; the so called 'jehadis' are biting the 'hand that feeds them', anyone in a uniform in Pakistan is at the receiving end of these militants! Their 'sacred' religious places are habouring gun-wielding terrorists!! Over hundreds died in a silly stand-off outside a mosque, a la 'operation bluestar'!! America, is turing now on them, threatening an attack on the NWFP to smoke out Osama Binladen; what has happened to that nation, it is utter chaos now.
It is beyond control now, and only the fall of Musharaf will quell this violence! Musharaf on his front has brokered a deal with the CJ, and is wooing Benazir Bhutto and also begging all his old enemies to join him....
Pakistan has become pathetic now....right time to force the issue and get what India deserves....!!
RE:Proxy war!!
by Kamal on Jul 30, 2007 07:55 PM Permalink
Shriniwas Deshpande You seems to be a PAKI. Fine, use your own name, we are a democratic country and you can say against India. Baseline is irrespective of INDIA PAKISTAN , see who is doing wrong things.
RE:Understanding of Pres Prez with Honble CJ
by Shriniwas Deshpande on Jul 30, 2007 06:31 PM Permalink
Why have you given your phone number and address?
RE:RE:Understanding of Pres Prez with Honble CJ
by heaven on Jul 30, 2007 06:34 PM Permalink
he has given his number so Musharaf can also reach an 'understanding' with him...LOL!!
RE:Understanding of Pres Prez with Honble CJ
by shanmuga subramanian on Jul 30, 2007 06:31 PM Permalink
Yes he is correct it is wrong to interfere with one country's internal affairs
Narayanan's statement shows his immaturity same like Rahul Gandhi who said that Pakistan was divided because of our family!
RE:Understanding of Pres Prez with Honble CJ
by satya pal on Jul 30, 2007 09:00 PM Permalink
pakistan can interefere in our country.sending fake currency,rdx,weapons,terrorists and continue to kill our countrymen.why not our govt.kills every person possessing illegal arms,rdx and fake currency.no body ever will will harm us.our leaders have not been killed,only bombay blast persons killed.who stops india govt.frame such laws.india should invest in inteligence gathering agencies.before terrorists attack,kill them then and there.indian people have no faith in present home ministry's governanance.this department is passing time only.
RE:RE:Understanding of Pres Prez with Honble CJ
by heaven on Jul 30, 2007 06:37 PM Permalink
dear shanmuga, keep showing our 'maturity' while women and children in Kashmir and the rest of the country die due to Musharaf's policy (which has gone haywire finally). Now he is at the receiving end, so what 'maturity' do you want to display, the NSA is just stating facts!!
You are safe in your Southern haven to understand what it means to live and die by the gun !! so pls finish your IAS/IFS and qualify before making such immature remarks!!
RE:Understanding of Pres Prez with Honble CJ
by Shriniwas Deshpande on Jul 30, 2007 06:34 PM Permalink
I rate Narayanan as a very calculated man. I don't think there is any immaturity. Probably India is trying to settle verbal score which we had to face for long time. We have never seen Mushy cornered so much. But if History is to be belived ...he will come out of this
RE:RE:Understanding of Pres Prez with Honble CJ
by trikarn on Jul 30, 2007 06:40 PM Permalink
yes it is wrong to interfere in internal affairs of any country, but then what happened in kashmir is what?
RE:Understanding of Pres Prez with Honble CJ
by prabhat mohanty on Jul 30, 2007 07:55 PM Permalink
On the face of it, it's misplaced and infact surprised me.
That NSA would make such a comment which should have been the domain of our Foreign Affairs.
But come to think of it, it's just another mind game.
He gives away the game, when he says it's time for Pakisthan talked to us.
He just setting a background for another Power Talk and he is just showing urgencey.
It's better to bring the enemy to the discussion table, when he ( enemy ) is on a slippery ground and the decision maker ( Mush ) got lots of worries in his mind.
He also sends out message that Mush would be a power factor some time to come. And Mush needs India on his side.
Well, just another mind game.
We can pop corn while discussiong this, Narayanan has to make living out of it.
RE:Understanding of Pres Prez with Honble CJ
by suneel pratap singh on Jul 30, 2007 06:36 PM Permalink
yea..if NSA is saying something,that must be based on the reports RECEIVED FROM RAW (most probably), i personally believe our NSA. so i hope narendra should explain his position. why shouldnt we POST SUCH READING???????????
OK, Mr. Gupta. Lets talk about your family matter...lets talk about your wife, your sister-in-law...Hey all, stop posting on NSA, Pakistan, CJ, etc. Lets talk MASALA !!!
