A very formidable and legendary punishment must be metel out to this octagorian malfunctioning Union Cabinet Minister and his family. This will showcase that he is not above law and will discourage others from doing the same.
Where is renuka? the other day she said that Indian woment should keep condom with them and not to beleive their own husbands! (normally people speak on their personal experiences!!!???) Where is brinda carrot? shabana ASSmi? may be hiding under secular mascot? sonia may be thanking jesus for not making him as presidential candidate!!
RE:where is the women champions?
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 30, 2007 11:28 AM Permalink
Now this Man i.e. Arjun shud be put behind bar as normal citizen is put. These higher up of the society shud face the burnt of ANTI DOWARY act.
This is a test for judiciary. Recently our CJI was furious when some sting operation showed judges taking bribe
It is good tha highly placed in society are facing the burnt of ANTI DOWRY ACT now. earlier CM of Haryana, Advani, a Judge of SC had also tasted the taste of this act. Many old person, dauther in laws and other family menmbers have suffered becoz of this peculiar law which was enacted by Indira Gandhi just because she wa ANTI MEN!
Now judiciary shud see to it that Arjun shud shud be treated in same manner as a ordinary is treated i.e. jail along with his relataives etc
If few such cases are forced on these policy makers only then absurdity of this law can be realised by these idiots and they will take step to undo it
RE:Whre is Renuka, Soina and Pratibha now.
by hiral joshi on Jul 30, 2007 11:27 AM Permalink
Are you talking about LK Advani? Because I searched and couldnt find any report stating there is any anti-dowry case against Advani. Kindly provide the link for the same.
RE:Whre is Renuka, Soina and Pratibha now.
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 30, 2007 11:32 AM Permalink
Yes, it is correct. His dauther in law accused him of tourture, dowary and using his position as home minister and then great joker Lallo jumped in fray. You will have to search for news papers.
Haryana CM Hudda has also faced music. But they are big people. Think of comman man
RE:Whre is Renuka, Soina and Pratibha now.
by hiral joshi on Jul 30, 2007 11:34 AM Permalink
I did search in the news papers and couldnt find it. Can you draw me to the link?
RE:Whre is Renuka, Soina and Pratibha now.
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 30, 2007 11:39 AM Permalink
Case was not registered and that was the grudge of the woman that Advani used his position as home minister. Later divorce of his son Jayant took place and he got remarried again.
I am not blaming Advani but trying to underline that 498a is being used by educated woman and their parents to harras their husban and inlaws. No one even in dream can think of that a person like Advani can ask for Dowary and can harras the daught in law. This act must go but for now Arjun shud be put behind bar
RE:Whre is Renuka, Soina and Pratibha now.
by Abbas Rumani on Jul 30, 2007 11:44 AM Permalink
Dear Vinay If you think person like Advani can not ask for Dowary. By same logic there will be thousand other who will say we don't think Arjun can not ask for Dowery.
RE:Whre is Renuka, Soina and Pratibha now.
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 30, 2007 11:49 AM Permalink
Abbas , I believ that even Arjun might not have asked. These case only high light the way this law 498a is being misused
Don't be a fool in thinking that its a actual dowry harassment case. This may help in bringing out - to still unaffected people - the menace 498a has created in society. The law doesn't distinguish between people who demand dowry and those who don't, it works purely on the basis of what a offended (for any reason) daughter in law has been motivated by her lawyers to put in the complaint to get a upper hand in the dispute. After that its a money minting industry for police, because only the complaint without any proofs in enough to send whole family to jail; then you come out on bail, fight in court and prove that you did not demand dowry which is true in 98% cases. But by then you have been already punished in the form of immense mental agony your family (including you, your old parents, your married or unmarried sisters and their minor kids who couldn't stay without moms) to jail, erosion of social respect and standing, and severe psychological impact. This law - sooner than later - will demolish Indian marriage institution. Men will just stop marrying rather than risking their own and their complete families (7 members in above case) lives. Prostitution will boom, and boy friends will be disloyal. They will know that the day you marry, you and your family are at her mercy. This law is no better then dowry system itself. Well any law with the basis 'Guilty unless proven innocent' is wrong and violates basic human rights.
RE:Guilty unless proven innocent
by Satyajit Mahapatra on Jul 30, 2007 11:39 AM Permalink
I don't think the situation is as bad with 498a as you mentioned. It has actually helped many tortured women. There can be be misuse of any law (I don't believe the 98% thing you said though) and this law is also as much abused as other laws in the country. We also don't see men not marrying even after 20 years of inacting he law. And as far Arjun Singh is concerned he never seem to be a simple person. In case he didn't take part in the whole affair he could have approved it by being silent. Yes, just like many other srong laws this too has some scope for improvement.
RE:Guilty unless proven innocent
by Manish Joshi on Jul 30, 2007 01:27 PM Permalink
Check 498a.org for how bad it is, or wikipedia or search 498a victims on google. Past 20 years are different from recent 5-7 years in terms of economic growth. India's growth rate is about to touch double digits now. Cultural changes come hand in hand with economic growth. Divorce rate in India has gone up by 100% in past 5 years. The essentially required women empowerment finally seems to be arriving. At this point of time if you let biased unfair laws exist in society they are bound to be misused. Its not about Men or Women - its about good or bad. There are good men as well as women and there are bad men as well as women. Law should be pro good and anti bad; not pro women (daughter in law) and anti men. Trust me, its difficult to see your young unmarried sister or old mother going to jail when its still to be proved in court whether they were guilty or not! If they are guilty, punish them as hell, but let court decide, don't treat them as guilty just because the daughter in law thinks so! Even TADA came under severe attack because of this and had to be revoked. Its simply against human rights! See this study from CSR http://mynation.wordpress.com/2007/07/14/csr-study-98-dowry-cases-498a-are-false/ regarding 98% figure. Also its not about how many 498a cases are filed by women, it starts the day your wife yells out at you - I AM WALKING OUT WITH THE BABY AND POLICE IS GOING TO WALKIN IF YOU DON'T xyz..... and you can't do anything. That crucial balance is lost in family.
RE:Guilty unless proven innocent
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 30, 2007 11:25 AM Permalink
Manish, u are coreect. 498a is conspiracy to demolish marriage institute of Hindus. It is being used by woman and their parents to settle scores and then used by Anti Hundus to malign the Hindus.
himachal minister dansing with prostitute,, the founder member of congress colition arjun singh is now under dowry net ,what a great news for indian,,,a fruad who couldnot conciliate with bahu and demanding mercedes what great achievemant of this great man of churhat lottery scandal fame,,congratulation to all sonia and party, comrade,,their guru lalu yadav,,,good on you alll,,,,
This Idiot should be Punished By Law ? Where and What is Renuka Chaudary , Brinda karat and Sonia Doing? They will Support Arjun because of Filthy politics ? Never Trust Arjun is Gomukkavyagra
hahahah serves him right .... I am sure his daughter in law is a BC/OBC candidate ... what reservation he has for his family ? 50% BC/OBC marriages and 10% open caste :P lol
RE:Cong way of empoweremnt of women ...
by mr josh on Jul 30, 2007 11:23 AM Permalink
this is empowerment of women in their home,,, what great achievement
RE:arjun singh
by Harbinder Sidhu on Jul 30, 2007 11:38 AM Permalink
Yes.Like all others,against whom a dowry case is registered,the H'ble Mantri,& his laalchi family shoud be put behind bars,as per the law.Kicking them below the belt will not help;they shud be paraded in town on foot(the Minister,considering his age,may allowed use of a Rickshaw,preferably pulled by his erring kin!);it will serve as an eye opener for many an erring highly placed,so called present day Raja s!.
