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DO YOU THINK KAFEEL IS ALSO INNOCENT
by charles williams on Jul 29, 2007 06:55 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I would presume he is innocent, but what i cant understand is that the individual is very keen on getting back to Australia to pursue his career. then why did he land in the airport with a one way ticket?

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HINDUTVA RELIGION OF PEACE
by Indian on Jul 29, 2007 06:54 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Caste violence continued to divide the impoverished state of Bihar. There, the Ranvir Sena, a banned private militia of upper-caste landlords that had been operating with impunity since 1994, waged war on various Maoist guerrilla factions, such as the People's War Group (PWG). These guerrilla groups advocated higher wages and more equitable land distribution for lower-caste laborers. The cycle of retaliatory attacks claimed many civilian lives.

On April 25, upper-caste Rajputs shot and killed four Dalits and seriously injured three in Rohtas district, Bihar. Rajputs subsequently burned down the entire Dalit hamlet, leaving all twenty-five families homeless. The attack was reportedly in retaliation for the killing of two Rajputs a few days earlier by members of the outlawed PWG. On June 16, in Miapur village in Bihar's Aurangabad district, the Ranvir Sena slaughtered thirty-four lower-caste men, women, and children. Survivors reported that police left the scene when the attacking mob entered the village. The massacre was reportedly to avenge the killings by Maoist guerrillas of twelve upper-caste Bhumihars the week before, and thirty-four Bhumihars in March 1999. Some Ranvir Sena members were arrested in the weeks that followed, but there was no precedent for successful prosecutions in such cases.

Police blamed the July 13 killings of four upper-caste Hindus in Garwah district on the PWG. On September 13 the Maoist Communist Centre, another armed group, slit nine people

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RE:HINDUTVA RELIGION OF PEACE
by masood m on Jul 29, 2007 07:14 PM  Permalink
You say that cause you must be a upper caste guy... used to torturing the lower caste... so obviously you won't consider it a big deal.

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RE:RE:HINDUTVA RELIGION OF PEACE
by monika tripathi on Jul 29, 2007 07:20 PM  Permalink
sorry boss the description of the upper caste guys that you have given above do not reside in cities. So they cant reply to ur msgs.

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RE:HINDUTVA RELIGION OF PEACE
by monika tripathi on Jul 29, 2007 07:18 PM  Permalink
The best thing about hindutva is that it has been a dynamic religion. It had many ill practices like sati, dowry, inequality between men and women, caste system but people from this religion itself have started removing these ill practices. So you see this religion keeps on evolving and removing bad practices. A hindu can always visit a church or a mosque. A hindu can adjust his lifestyle based on country of his residence. His religion does not bar a hindu to do all this. The good reason for all this Hinduism does not restrict its follower and does not differentiate between human beings. You see that the world today needs a religion like hinduism which promotes equality and peace.

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RE:HANEEF MAY BE INNOCENT!! BUT ISLAM IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WHOLE EPISODE!!
by Indian on Jul 29, 2007 06:50 PM  Permalink
The Hindu nationalist policies espoused by India's governing Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) and its affiliate organizations undermined the country's historical commitment to secular democracy. Violence against Christian, Muslim, and Dalit, or "untouchable," populations was one result. Areas of separatist violence such as Kashmir and northeast India were marked by grave human rights abuses on the part of Indian security forces and armed rebel groups. Violence against women continued, from infanticide to dowry-related deaths to attacks on women whose male relatives were sought by the police. A major campaign on Dalit rights gathered strength, but some human rights defenders were targets of a state-sponsored backlash against their activism.



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RE:HANEEF MAY BE INNOCENT!! BUT ISLAM IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WHOLE EPISODE!!
by Indian on Jul 29, 2007 07:00 PM  Permalink
Activists belonging to militant Hindu extremist groups such as the Bajrang Dal and the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (World Hindu Council, VHP) were often blamed for the violence. Both groups are members of the sangh parivar, an umbrella Hindu organization that boasts the ruling BJP as its political wing. These Hindu groups blamed the violence on popular anger over Christian efforts to convert Hindus. While government officials at the state and central level condemned the attacks, they did little to prosecute those responsible.

On January 31 a year-long manhunt came to an end with the arrest in Orissa of Bajrang Dal activist Dara Singh. Singh was wanted in connection with several murders, including those of Australian missionary Graham Stuart Staines and his two sons in 1999. Christian relief at the arrest was tempered, however, by a state government order, believed to be aimed at limiting the activities of Christian missionaries, requiring a police inquiry before anyone adopted a new faith.


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RE:RE:RE:HANEEF MAY BE INNOCENT!! BUT ISLAM IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WHOLE EPISODE!!
by venkatesh koukuntla on Jul 29, 2007 07:48 PM  Permalink
Hi Indian can u list the attrocities committed by these so called Hindu fanatics.. there are a very few and that is because of the outrageous acts of muslim fanatics who say that they should watch TV and release videos of people being beheaded.. dying old arabs marrying young Hyderabadi girls..people killing their family members for pride.. take all the bomb blasts from time that we have seen.. 3 times bombay blasts,swaminarayan mandir,hyderabad masjid blasts ,coimbatore blasts.. are only the very few that can be listed that are committed in the name of religion that has been miscontrued.. so sorry to see that UK bomb blasts were planned by group of doctors who were earning their lively hood and the ones who should be giving life to others.. so pity .. People have to change.. Honestly I do not know if It is the radical preachings of the few that inspire these people to kill the innocents that have done no harm..ultimately both EDUCATED and the uneducated religious fanatics are committing such acts.. I also have some of the best friends who are muslims who are not fanatics and infact never practise the religion and have married people from other religions.. so CHANGE has to be from within and the value of life should be known to these people..

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RE:RE:HANEEF MAY BE INNOCENT!! BUT ISLAM IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WHOLE EPISODE!!
by Indian on Jul 29, 2007 07:03 PM  Permalink
HINDUTVA CHADDI TERRORIST GANGS HATE EVERYONE MUSLIMS CHRISTIANS SIKHS DALITAS TRIBALS

HINDUTVA PEACEFUL RELIGION

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RE:HANEEF MAY BE INNOCENT!! BUT ISLAM IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WHOLE EPISODE!!
by Rajiv Shivashankar on Jul 29, 2007 07:24 PM  Permalink
Every religion has good and bad followers. no religion practices violence, and to claim any one religion is the only true faith is misleading. People faollow faiths in which they feel they have found the path to the truth, and each religion has methods of teaching people the 'right' way. Some feel their religion is the ONLY true religion, and this causes problems. We have seen this in the Christian, Hindu and Islamic followers, so to say one religion is superior is not quite correct.

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RE:HANEEF MAY BE INNOCENT!! BUT ISLAM IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WHOLE EPISODE!!
by Indian on Jul 29, 2007 07:28 PM  Permalink
SHALL I REMIND YOU OF BABRI MASJID DEMOLITION
GUJARAT MOSQUEE ETC
MIGHT IS RIGHT
JISKI LATHI USKI BHAIS

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RE:Why we Save Terrorirsts
by felix nicholas on Jul 29, 2007 06:55 PM  Permalink
the police has raided his parents place and conducted enquiries and havent found anything illegal except his pc. what should he be prosecuted for.

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RE:Why we Save Terrorirsts
by Indian on Jul 29, 2007 06:51 PM  Permalink
In January, the Indian army, after its own investigation, announced that fifty-six of its personnel in Kashmir would be punished for committing human rights violations. The punishments ranged from discharge to denial of promotion. National and state human rights commissions, however, were barred from investigating army and paramilitary personnel

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RE:RE:Why we Save Terrorirsts
by Indian on Jul 29, 2007 06:52 PM  Permalink
In early April, at least seven people were killed when police opened fire on Muslim protestors demanding the exhumation of the bodies of five men killed by members of the Indian army's Special Operations Group in Anantnag district. The protestors claimed that the men hadbeen detained in the aftermath of the Chithisinghpora massacre and killed in a "staged" encounter. On April 6, the charred and disfigured bodies were exhumed. DNA tests were performed to confirm their identities, but as of this writing, the government had not released the results.



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RE:Why we Save Terrorirsts
by adyar com on Jul 29, 2007 08:49 PM  Permalink
Hey are a Muslim spokes person ? forgot the 9/11 attacks ?. Dont act smart by calling yourself as an India. we know that u r a muslim terrorist.

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But he does not like to be in India
by Chola The Greatest in the Universe on Jul 29, 2007 06:37 PM  Permalink 

In the whole story he never shown his love towards India, though we Indians seems to be overjoyed of his return, while he is still open to go back to the same country which treated him like a terrorist! I cant understand why? Whether money is more important or India is less important for him? For him everything seems to be his profession and family. Only once he mentioned the name India we all belong to and supporting for!

But to tell you the truth I am not surprised of his behaviour like this.

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Request to Haneef
by tl cse on Jul 29, 2007 06:36 PM  Permalink 

As Indians believe all hindus and muslims are bhai bhai.We fought for Haneef.So Haneef should keep now stop any kind of terrorist activity or any support to it.Plz work to develop muslim community as the number of musilmans getting attracted to terrorism is incresing.

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A True Indian
by Jithin Sankar on Jul 29, 2007 06:31 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Whatever may be the involvement or no involvement of Dr.Haneef in the Glasgow bomb plot, the damage to him, his family, muslims in general in bangalore is already done. It comes as a relief that he's cleared of all charges. My good wishes are with him and his family. I think his words set an example for non radical muslims all over the world('I would've informed his folks first or cops, had i known abt it'). Lets not make this another useless arguement about muslims n evil. I'm a hindu and I've countless friends who are muslims from around the world of varying religious views but none of them have radical/heinous ideas. I vouch for my friends.

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RE:A True Indian
by Sajid Khan on Jul 29, 2007 06:40 PM  Permalink
Thanks Jithin
I am not sure why each and every time Muslim has to prove they are trust worthy to India.
Why people mixed religion,faith with country .I am Muslim with my faith but I am Indian with my heart.
Why we labelled as terrosits and not as genious like Kalam,Sports and brave like Zaheer,Irfan and so Many Muslim soldiers who died fighting protecting India.
People should stop labelling,If people in pakistan is Muslim is not my fault but I hate Pakistani as much as I can.
I codemn each and every attacks on humanity.

Things are changing and people are understanding and few like you are coming in front to give good message.
Thanks my frnd.

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RE:A True Indian
by abdul samad on Jul 29, 2007 07:05 PM  Permalink
I did mind when some people blame muslims if something goes wrong.It hurts us like anything. But we dont have choice, we accept that there is some people in our religious ( in all religious) who does situation critical. But today because of Mr.Jathin, i am more than happy and i dont mind what others say about Muslim. We are muslims but we are humen being. we do love, we prefer peace, we need respect.We are Indians as well.Muslim is not terrorist, Islam = Peace.If true muslim who believes ISLAM cant be a terrorist at all. There fore my dear brothers and sisters all muslims are not terrorist. The terrorist doesnt have religious. Dear Jathin your One Message is enough to live in this world. Thanks - From all muslims who belive ISLAM.

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RE:A True Indian
by Ganapati Hegde on Jul 29, 2007 06:56 PM  Permalink
I also have lot of Muslim friends, who are really kind and good at heart and got very well with them. There may be a few misguided youths, but you cannot be suspicious of everyone.

I am sure Muslims in India are as patriotic as other Indians and they have contributed to the unity and integrity of India.

It is a great relief that Mohammed Haneef is relieved of all terrorist charges and has come back safely. I think all the Muslims need the guarantee and protection to live safely and without any fear, like other Indians.

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RE:A True Indian
by Hit Right on Jul 29, 2007 07:21 PM  Permalink
Mr Sajid ,The simple remedy ids that you must raise your voice against those of your brothers who indulge in terrorist activities.
How many of your leaders you have seen raising their voice agaist such people who become human-bombs and brutally massacre hundreds of people?
There may be Goonda elements and murderers in other communities.But have you seen any terrorist amoung them?
Did any one crash into a building with the full load of Passengers?
It is no pleasure to brand someone among us as terrorists, but the opposition also must come from your leaders instead of blame-game!

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welcome Haneef
by Sajid Khan on Jul 29, 2007 06:31 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Welcome Haneef to our motherland and thanks to God for making your free and clean.
I have dropped the my plan to migrate any western countries as I do not to be in same situation as like you.


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RE:welcome Haneef
by felix nicholas on Jul 29, 2007 07:00 PM  Permalink
GOOD that he is free. but you should probably thank australian media and judiciary which stood up against a racist govt. also the indian govt which stood by him. Its your god who got him into trouble

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RE:welcome Haneef
by felix nicholas on Jul 29, 2007 07:03 PM  Permalink
good he is free. but you should probably thank australian media and judiciary to stand up against a racist govt. also the indian govt. your god is actually responsible for his ordeal

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