RE:Welcome back Haneef...
by Analysis on Jul 29, 2007 03:38 AM Permalink
'OUR'? You said you are a PAKI. Will you stop playing here On? Dont change identities, please. We are talking about OUR country. If you dont mind, can you pls go back and better write blogs for whats happening in your dear country- Lal Masjid, Western unruled, animal like places in your country.. please. Stop foling around here in my country's matter..
The Australian government have caused lot of harrasment and torture to Haneef. Without having any proff they have put the innoncement man behind bars for a month.
Now the Indian Government, Haneef's Lawyers should sue the Australian government for the damages caused.The Australian government should apologies to Haneef for this neglegience.
RE:The international community should punish the Australian government
by KuKuMars on Jul 29, 2007 01:03 AM Permalink
Thanks australian govt for sendiing him in good shape to India, Dr. Haneef, you are lucky to catch by Aus Police.
RE:RE:The international community should punish the Australian government
by on Jul 29, 2007 12:10 AM Permalink
I agree with Rajeev Chatni, not the posting saying "u put ur pockets money on suing australian govt."
We do not know but can Haneef claim that he was totally unaware about the ideals of his cousins.Who knows he was quitting Australia only when he knew about their plans and he was aware of his SIM card with them.He appears to be lucky perhaps......
RE:Haneef could be lucky?
by KC on Jul 29, 2007 12:14 AM Permalink
yes he could be... before leaving India, I also left my SIM with my friend ..some other might have left with their families. it is a casual practice.. does not mean that he knew...he might have or might not have ...but Aussies had 40 days to fully go hrough all the details (inc. his laptop /mails everything) they did not found anything ...this means he might not have....
I AM US BASED INDIAN DOC...TO ME IT WAS INHUMAN AND APPALING THE WAY AUSSIES TREATED HANEEF...I WAS CONSIDERING WORKING IN AUSTRALIA AS A DOCTOR BUT AFTER THE HANEEF EPISODE NOWAY...I AM GLAD THAT HE IS COMING BACK HOME WITH HONOR....IT WAS PLAIN HARRASMENT more probably becos of his religion n race...AUSSIES SHUDD BE SUED HEAVILY FOR THAT AND HANEEF SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO WORK IN GOLDCOAST HOSPITAL.
RE:I AM VERY HAPPY FOR HANEEF AND HIS FAMILY
by Analysis on Jul 28, 2007 11:35 PM Permalink
Sooraj, it doesnt depend whether you are a doc or not. What depends is you were humiliated. But tell me one thing- when all attacks are by a specific profile- that being brown skin, Muslim, looking from Mid-East or South Asia, what do you expect the security guys to do? If you are a policce officer incharge of a area and with limited force, where will you place your officers? In a high crime area or a low crime area? Come on, this race talk is non-sense. We are profiled because people looking us (unfortunately) do the damage! You are in US? May I ask you this- do you stay in a Hispanic area or a white/Indian/Japanese/Chinese area? What do you prefer? Does that mean you are racist too? Dont judge the countries. They do what they think is best for their citizens. Even then if we Indians go there, in 'humiliating' condtions, its we who need to look inwards ! Let's make India great so no one has to go out ! We know that wont be possible for next 25-30 years, and with this bunch may be never ! Sorry state, but truth
RE:I AM VERY HAPPY FOR HANEEF AND HIS FAMILY
by on Jul 28, 2007 11:42 PM Permalink
It is a good to see Dr. Haneef is finally heading home.
To me, all this looks like a racial war between Christianity and Islam across the world. If Dr. Haneef possessed a non-Muslim name, I bet he would have had a better experience in this ordeal.
It was nice on the Australian government's part to have abandoned the charges raised against him, but it was utterly opprobrious on the Australian government's part to not have his visa reinstated after Dr. Haneef was proved innocent in their own court of law. It was even much more shameful on the Australian government's part not to have tendered a basic apology to Dr. Haneef for the trauma that they have put him through, thanks to their own goof-ups. This has been a racist behavior on part of Australian government toward Indians whom they think are grabbing away their jobs and Muslims whom they think are terrorists. Go further down south, Australia!
I am neither Christian nor Muslim, but it hurts to see how badly people end up getting treated.
RE:I AM VERY HAPPY FOR HANEEF AND HIS FAMILY
by krishnan js on Jul 28, 2007 11:44 PM Permalink
You said you are from Pakistan.Do not change your identity.
RE:I AM VERY HAPPY FOR HANEEF AND HIS FAMILY
by sledgergal on Jul 28, 2007 11:33 PM Permalink
i think u r still sleeping...........wake up r gop back 2 sleep.....no weekend plans? go and get a life
RE:I AM VERY HAPPY FOR HANEEF AND HIS FAMILY
by on Jul 28, 2007 11:43 PM Permalink
It is a good to see Dr. Haneef is finally heading home.
To me, all this looks like a racial war between Christianity and Islam across the world. If Dr. Haneef possessed a non-Muslim name, I bet he would have had a better experience in this ordeal.
It was nice on the Australian government's part to have abandoned the charges raised against him, but it was utterly opprobrious on the Australian government's part to not have his visa reinstated after Dr. Haneef was proved innocent in their own court of law. It was even much more shameful on the Australian government's part not to have tendered a basic apology to Dr. Haneef for the trauma that they have put him through, thanks to their own goof-ups. This has been a racist behavior on part of Australian government toward Indians whom they think are grabbing away their jobs and Muslims whom they think are terrorists. Go further down south, Australia!
I am neither Christian nor Muslim, but it hurts to see how badly people end up getting treated.
RE:I AM VERY HAPPY FOR HANEEF AND HIS FAMILY
by ashish on Jul 28, 2007 11:54 PM Permalink
on u said u were muslim on the post below,any way why is there racism in the west ,cause we give them reason to believe we all are terrorists
RE:I AM VERY HAPPY FOR HANEEF AND HIS FAMILY
by on Jul 29, 2007 12:01 AM Permalink
I am a Hindu - neither Christian nor Muslim, but I am not bottled up in my religion. I don't know the reason for racism around the world, but it does appear that it is out there everywhere. For that matter, racism is more in India than anywhere in the western world. How many of us have ever learned to treat Indians as Indians? We all talk about Tamilians, Keralites, Kashmiris, Brahmins, Bengalis, Biharis, and Marathis, don't we???
RE:I AM VERY HAPPY FOR HANEEF AND HIS FAMILY
by pupil likely on Jul 29, 2007 12:08 AM Permalink
The Australian government jumped to conclusions .........let us not do it again. Let us see on how Haneef and company fight to get work visa reinstated..........
RE:I AM VERY HAPPY FOR HANEEF AND HIS FAMILY
by on Jul 29, 2007 12:14 AM Permalink
Well, I don't know about Chechan and stuff. Media in many parts of the world are all a hype, sorry if I don't have all the data, but I do think that Dr. Haneef was a victim of circumstances and he was not eligible to be considered a terrorist.
RE:Historical Truths
by Analysis on Jul 28, 2007 11:42 PM Permalink
You know some thing On. You talk non-sense. No one is asking Taj Mahal or Qutab Minar to be another Babri Masjid. But as an Indian, I think its my right to know the facts. If it was a temple built by Hindus, it got to be known to us. Why credit Shal Jahan with some thing which was not his creation ! Answer this, if yu have the brains- in centuries of Mullah rule in India, give me 5 tings what they did for India. We say British were bad, sure, but we can still count 10 things what they did (and 100 what they destroyed, that's true). Islam cant give any thing, just ZERO. I am not anti-muslim. People like Kalam, I repsect them, love them. But the truth has to be seen, understood to be dealt with. Closig eyes is no solution.. Understood OM !
RE:Historical Truths
by Subodh Sapre on Jul 29, 2007 12:56 AM Permalink
Muslims have destroyed thousands of Hindu,Jain & Buddhist shrines & monuments but they do not forget to shed tears on 6th december every to express their sorrow about demolition of only one structure. If Hindus decide to observe protest days, even 365 days of the year will not be enough. Muslims show concern about chechya & Iraq but are not worried about 5 lakh Hindus displaced from Kashmir in their Homeland by Islamic fundamentalists. Let them find their place in the countries where their brothers are suffering.
RE:Historical Truths
by on Jul 29, 2007 12:18 AM Permalink
1. people like u r anti-human. 2. people like u have 1 point agenda of creating rift amongst societies. 3. people like u should b referred to guantanamo bay 4 thorough investigations of mind set 4 its anti-life credentials 4. u have massacred jains, budhists to mask their cultures & imposed and painted ur own instead. 5. u killed shudras in past & continue to do the same u raped, burnt down and slaughtered sikhs so ruthlessly in 1984, u murdered by burning down stains & his so very innocent young kids so cold bloodedly, u did the same to muslims several times & more recently in gujarat, it was nice to see memons meeting their due fates for what they did but it would have been more satisfying to see the offenders of all these heinous crimes against humanity be held accountable & meet their fates in similar fashion, or else justice would be half done. 6. people like u r hard cored criminals who have been trying to slay the human nature of human by proving themselves nationalist, chauvinist or religious. 7. ur kind of mind is nothing but a psychiatric curiosity to be investigated and severely punished. u r one of like of osama laden or dara singh, a rakshasa indeed.
RE:RE:Historical Truths
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 29, 2007 12:28 AM Permalink
If you kill non believer then it is your right bcoz God through messanger has asked you to do it. But if other try to DEFEND them then you have problem.
ON, please donot loose temper and ponder. What is wrong with Islam? Why people have so many appehensions? By calling other bad you cannot become clean. First you should disown all those who have done misdeeds including your religious Messangers
RE:Historical Truths
by Analysis on Jul 29, 2007 03:16 AM Permalink
Not worth commenting. Reading your posts only makes me wonder who has hatred in him, who is spreading hatred. If you dont like Hinduism, fine, get off. No one forces you to be a Hindu. I didnt have the patience to read your who blog because the 1st 2 points, and the one in b/w proved to me that they were worthless. In any case, I would say that if you are a Muslim, or a so-called OBC, who has been born and brought up with hate towards Hindus, remember this one thing- Hinduism has things bad, I knw that. But it is also true that many of us didnt even know who a OBC, ST etc is. Mandal and your dear netas forced us to look that way. They have sown a seed of hatred in the 21st century. Yes, there were and there are atrocities. But your govt has hit it at the wrong place. You know why? Because they of intetion of brisging the gaps. Actually its the opposite.
RE:Historical Truths
by pupil likely on Jul 29, 2007 12:13 AM Permalink
ok, so the Mughals destroyed India. But how do you plan to punish them today? I thought that they all are dead by now.
Lets not talk about them now for God's sake.Lets indulge in something constructive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RE:Historical Truths
by Analysis on Jul 29, 2007 03:47 AM Permalink
No pupil. There is no point of talking revenge. There is no point talking about that part of history. Those were middle ages ! Those who kills the maximum is the most powerful. No, I dont even want to discuss that. But does that mean we should glorify Mulsims rule in India? why? Why are we fed on an (mis)information? Why cant we proudly say that place XYZ was built by a Hindu, but destroyed by Muslim. Only when you start hiding the facts, the ugly face comes out, which wants to restore an inconclusive truth by force. Babri was an example. Why cant the Govt cant the Govt pass a law that all strucures would be preserved, but all for all doubtful structures, history would be revisted. Sure it wont add to our GDP, but hiding it wont add any thing either. Why in the hell do we fear the truth? You know why? Because the people ruling us have a corrpupted mind. They will try to tweak the truth, to get votes. And we stupid Indians will follow them to death. I fail to understand why truth can be so harsh. everyone knows that British, Moguls, Portuguese and all esle who came to India (and wherever they went) did tortures, massacares etc. Still we want to glorify the Muslim rule, just because they were the rulers when the British came? Is it illogical. Again, Muslims are free and welcome in India (like our beloved ex-Prez), but let's accept the truths with open mind.. that's all
RE:Historical Truths
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 29, 2007 12:24 AM Permalink
Pupil, They will behave like muguls, taimur given a chance. We cannot forget their behaviour with non believer in Kashmir, Pakistan and bangladesh.
RE:Historical Truths
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 28, 2007 11:57 PM Permalink
Analysis, your ppoint is valid. In science, knowledge theory keeps changinging. There are mant qustions which historian must answer. Like the name of lady was MUMTAJUL Jamani then why only TAZ is taken. Secondaly no where in world around mosulium is called MAHAL. There are so many other inconsistencies which need answer. Let us have a open mind and scientific temprament
RE:Historical Truths
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 28, 2007 11:36 PM Permalink
On, but is it not true that TRUE follower of Islam destroyed many temple and Islamists never feel sorry for their act. Is it not because mohumad also was indulged in such activity
RE:Historical Truths
by Samira Khan on Jul 29, 2007 12:17 AM Permalink
John, you seem to have a mental problem, do you have any shred of documentary evidence to substantiate your statements ?, otherwise it is known as fiction, you can climb the mount everest or meet the green men from mars but no one would accept your statements
'Sar Salamat toh pagadi pachas', forget about Idiot George Bush and Murkh Laden, live life, the life offers us much more. Do not carry the burden of past, start the life fresh.Every Asian and African has to work more than the rest of the world, and be satisfied with much less than the developed world. No religion ask for revenge, it demands for reasoning. Move away from logical reasoning, life may become pitless bottom. Stand for your right, but undermining common people's right to live and carry on with a normal life in any part of the world as a counter offencive political movement will not serve any purpose. The activist may isolate themselves, that is what the power lobby who is ruling the world wants. This takes away active youth who can create a political forum to democratise the world. It is a waste of a generation.
RE:Haneef
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 28, 2007 11:28 PM Permalink
On, there is saying in Hindi " sattar chuhe kha kar billi haz ko challi" . I think your sermon fit into this saying. When muslim were powerful they killed, raped and destroyed everything of non believers and when they have become weak due to invent of technology they are talking of peace! I feel same was done by Mohumad also when he made a treaty with macca or madina to buy time
If muslim donot discuss their religion and Prophet and also donot condemn the satanic verses their sincerety cannot be trusted
RE:Haneef
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 28, 2007 11:52 PM Permalink
Krishnan, Pl donot resort to their level. It can be proved easily that lot of objectionable things are written in Quran and mohumads preaching are unacceptable in civilised society
RE:Haneef
by Asrar Alam on Jul 28, 2007 11:54 PM Permalink
every hindu is talking that islam was spread by force. can i ask were the hindus so timid and weak in their belief that they accepted it. ok why can't they make muslim again hindu even if they are powerful now? can any hindu answer it?
RE:Haneef
by KC on Jul 29, 2007 12:06 AM Permalink
yes mr Asrar , I can if it done by force many may be seem following the ruler. in todays time i can give you example of USA. isnt Paki following USA ???? what is your take on that ... is Pakistan timid or just flowing with the tide to get maximum benefit out of this situation...
I think this might explain you...otherwise think of still 100 cr. Hindus who did not convert despite aurangzeb and Nadir Shah
RE:Haneef
by krishnan js on Jul 29, 2007 12:24 AM Permalink
Abe kafir Asrar dekte jaa.Waqt aa gaya hai Insaano me janwaron (not all Muslims only the 5 sense people) ka DIN aa gaya hai.The counting has begun.
RE:Haneef
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 29, 2007 12:07 AM Permalink
Asrar, Hindu donot believe in conversion. We say that every way of worship is acceptable. God is one and to reach to it are mny path and all are equally good.
It is our strength as well as weakness. It is a great strength when one is living in a civilised society but it is a great weakness when one is encountering a intolerant religion like Islam.
Islam doesnot allow apostate( change of Faith) and punishment for the same is DEATH. Now there is lot of awakening among Hindus and in future you will see the home coming.
RE:Haneef
by Samira Khan on Jul 29, 2007 12:08 AM Permalink
the first message that Islam brought was of Justice and universal brotherhood. have you ever observed muslims in prayer ?. they all stand before their lord shoulder to shoulder, because before the lord there is no one greater or smaller, everyone is equal in his sight.there was a study done last year which conclusivley proves that muslims in India are upper caste converts by analysing the mitrochondial DNA which is the most accurate way of finding DNA fingerprints.
yes we were hindus before we converted to Islam because we found something good and just, and by the way Islam found a way in the hearts of people in Oman that is why 95-98% of the population there are muslim.the same is the case in Kashmir many people still have their suffix as Pandit, there is nothing wrong in it
RE:Haneef
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 29, 2007 12:12 AM Permalink
Then beliver and non belivr must also be equal. Why your Prophet was so harsh with non beliver and so merciful with faithful that he promised 72 Horries (vergins) to them even after death
RE:RE:Haneef
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 29, 2007 12:14 AM Permalink
It is a news to me. Till date u people keep telling that it was because of inequallity in Hindus which made lower cast to embrace Islam. Now u say that most of converts are upper cast!
RE:RE:Haneef
by Samira Khan on Jul 29, 2007 12:27 AM Permalink
Principal component analysis (PCA), a statistical tool that separates individuals on the basis of differences in their properties was employed to place each social group on a plot. According to this plot Shias and Sunnis are much closer to Brahmins, Bhargavas, and tribals from Karnataka than people from UAE, Yemen, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, and or Central Asian countries. PCA generated a plot that showed three clear clusters- Souther Arabian Peninsula, North East African population in upper left quadrant, East Central Asian and Middle Eastern group in the lower right hand corner, and all Indian groups can be found closer to each other to the right.
The scientific paper detailing this study is going to be published by the American Journal of Physical Anthropology. Dr. Razi Raziuddin who is a scientist at the prestigious National Cancer Institute in Maryland, USA and have read the paper believes that study conclusively proves that "majority of Muslims in North India are upper caste converts" which disproves the propaganda carried out by the Sangh Parivar that Indians were forced to convert to Islam. If this was the case Dr. Raziuddin argues we would not have seen Muslims genetically so close to Brahmins and other upper caste groups.
The study conclusively proves that Indian Muslims are part of the genetic landscape of India. According to the paper "our results demonstrate that the mtDNA haplogroup M is present in the Indo-Shia and the Indo-Sunni Muslims at a frequency of 50-60
RE:RE:Haneef
by Samira Khan on Jul 29, 2007 12:24 AM Permalink
Vinay, the article for you Indian Muslims are as Indian as Brahmins or any other social group according the findings of genomic studies of northern Indian Muslims. This gives credence to the long held views of historians that Muslims in India are descendants of local populations who converted to Islam.
The study was collaboration by Florida International University, Spanish Universidad de Vigo, and Sanjay Gandhi Postgraduate Institute of Medical Sciences in Lucknow. Mitochondrial DNA which is passed from mother to children is a preferred way for establishing descent of a person.
The study looked at the genetic composition of mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) of Sunnis and Shias of UP. Blood samples from 60 Sunnis and 59 Shias volunteers were taken for this study. Their mtDNA was analyzed for specific genetic markers. Frequencies of the presence of these markers were compared to various groups in India and other countries.
While there are some differences among Sunnis and Shias in terms of their mtDNA, in general they found to be closer to the larger Indian population.
Principal component analysis (PCA), a statistical tool that separates individuals on the basis of differences in their properties was employed to place each social group on a plot. According to this plot Shias and Sunnis are much closer to Brahmins, Bhargavas, and tribals from Karnataka than people from UAE, Yemen, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, and or Central Asian countries. PCA generated a plot that showed three
RE:Haneef
by on Jul 29, 2007 12:36 AM Permalink
1. people like u r anti-human. 2. people like u have 1 point agenda of creating rift amongst societies. 3. people like u should b referred to guantanamo bay 4 thorough
investigations of mind set 4 its anti-life credentials 4. u have massacred jains, budhists to mask their cultures & imposed
and painted ur own instead. 5. u killed shudras in past & continue to do the same u raped, burnt
down and slaughtered sikhs so ruthlessly in 1984, u murdered by
burning down stains & his so very innocent young kids so cold
bloodedly, u did the same to muslims several times & more recently in
gujarat, it was nice to see memons meeting their due fates for what
they did but it would have been more satisfying to see the offenders of
all these heinous crimes against humanity be held accountable & meet
their fates in similar fashion, or else justice would be half done. 6. people like u r hard cored criminals who have been trying to slay the
human nature of human by proving themselves nationalist, chauvinist
or religious. 7. ur kind of mind is nothing but a psychiatric curiosity to be
investigated and severely punished. u r one of like of osama laden or
dara singh, a rakshasa indeed. 8. u dirty hole, u would find our own religion full of atrocities on
weaker sections by upper castes in the name of religion, which
basically originated to establish the superiority of upper caste over its
RE:Haneef
by Samira Khan on Jul 29, 2007 12:20 AM Permalink
go and see in the coast of caspian sea there is a temple existing for the past 600 odd years, there are no hindus living in the area for more than 300 odd years in living memory but muslims in iran have left it as it is.so much for your militant islam
RE:Does Sufism precede Islam?
by krishnan js on Jul 28, 2007 11:11 PM Permalink
I read in some Wikipedia page that Sufism has nothing to do with Prophet?
RE:Does Sufism precede Islam?
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 28, 2007 11:14 PM Permalink
You r correct krisnan . Suffisim is not liked by Arabs. It is prevelant in Indian subcontinent and is being treated as unislamic in Pakistan
RE:RE:Does Sufism precede Islam?
by on Jul 28, 2007 11:22 PM Permalink
Vinay i am from pakistan and its not unislamic!!!!but if u are gonna ask the grave of a Sufi for mercy ITS WRONG even by sufis!meet any sufi he wud tell u he is nothing and cant give u nothing!!!but people take them as gods coz in subcontinent any thing is taken as god,in india and pakistan this sufism has been misinterpreted but its a part of life as every Sufi says "one God and mohammad is his last prophet" and this lineage in islam starts from the last caliph HAzrat Ali (RA)!!!ok SHARIA is LOGIC in islam and SUFISM is ISHQ unconditonal love for Almighty and Mohammads of springs,all sufis have lineages meeting with Mohammand(PBUH)!in arab world the law is sharia that is right as well,sufism is right as well if practised the way sufis practised it!they never bent in front of any one except the God!!!so they told people dun bend in front of them!but as time passed ppl took them as icons and sufism got polluted!but a true sufi will never do tht!ull find many in india and millions in pakistan!
RE:Does Sufism precede Islam?
by on Jul 28, 2007 11:15 PM Permalink
Sufism does not precede islam! a Sufi being a muslim like Ajmer sharif, Qalandar's, DaaTa darbar in lahore many in multan and in india talk about One God and Muhammad their prophet,and spread this message by love!they spoke against social injustice and spread message of islam in subcontinent!it was here that many converted not the swords commonly people refer to! the basic message of islam is LOGIC the messaage by a Sufi is ISHQ(unconditional unlogical love) one proves it self thru logic but sufi does it by belief and love for the God and his messenger!!!but people nowadays has taken them as icons! that is even wrong by Sufi law as it forbids any one kneeling for them as they themslevs said that they are nuffin jus common men and kneel for the God and dun take them as icons!
RE:Does Sufism precede Islam?
by krishnan js on Jul 28, 2007 11:19 PM Permalink
Very well.If the principles are followed by all Muslims everyone is happy.WHAT HAS GONE WRONG?Where is the LOVE? Saudi Arabia desists Sufism.Dara Shikoh was done in by bas---d Aurangazeb because he said Hinduism and Islam are like twin brothers.
RE:RE:Does Sufism precede Islam?
by on Jul 28, 2007 11:26 PM Permalink
aurangzeb was a king!kingship is forbiddin in islam!saudia has heirship thats forbidden in islam! they are political moves!what aurangzeb did was was not for islam he did it for his own thrown!he even jailed his own father?isnt it? thats love for worldly things! Sufi takes the wolrd as temporary!they call God and Mohammad as their icons and themslves considers as sinners!all sufi message is just keep telling people of all faiths keep telling and they will change! its a huge topic my frnd! with fine lines! dont mingle them!as Sufism not an inch is against islam not an inch!they are replica!one with law and one with love!
RE:RE:RE:Does Sufism precede Islam?
by krishnan js on Jul 28, 2007 11:32 PM Permalink
Agreed Agreed.But Aurangazeb is supposed to have ruled by Shariat and is revered as a proud Muslim.In India we never hear Muslims(the Imams od Delhi,Deoband etc) against Terrorism.Why? Gentleman you are very refreshing.
RE:Does Sufism precede Islam?
by Samira Khan on Jul 29, 2007 12:11 AM Permalink
Krishnan, think logically, whether it is the hindu king in Nepal or Aurangazeb they were all rulers who cared about their position, they did not care of Islam or Hinduism etc
RE:MUSLIMS ARE REPORTING EVERYTHING AS ABUSE!!!
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 28, 2007 11:20 PM Permalink
Terminator, first they try to befool by qouting some verses / instances which have been written for muslims in quran and which talk about harmony. But when verses which spread hate and violence agaist non believers are brought to their notice then they term them OUT of CONTEXT. But if you still prove conclusivly that Islam is intolerant and uncivilised religion then they resort to this type of activity.
I agree there are bad practices in every religion but follower of that religion shud be open to the discussion and shud be ready to condemn those practices
RE:MUSLIMS ARE REPORTING EVERYTHING AS ABUSE!!!
by Samira Khan on Jul 28, 2007 11:27 PM Permalink
Vinay, yes that's true if you take a line from any book and quote it without the preceeding and suceeding line you are more than likely to be OUT OF CONTEXT. you seem to be a man with a sick mind.the first message that Islam brought was of Justice and universal brotherhood. have you ever observed muslims in prayer ?. they all stand before their lord shoulder to shoulder, because before the lord there is no one greater or smaller, everyone is equal in his sight.
RE:MUSLIMS ARE REPORTING EVERYTHING AS ABUSE!!!
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 28, 2007 11:42 PM Permalink
Samira, for u people who so ever donot agreee with you people is SICK and shud be eliminated. But friend, it 21st century and not 14th centuary.
Now people will ask questions . Islam doesnot preach universal brotherhood. It divides the manking between believers and non belivers. Mohamad himself killed non believers and dstroyed their place of worship and allowed its follower to carry their woman folk as WAR BOOTY. IS IT ALSO FALSE AND OUT OF CONTEXT.
Do u want Quran to be written for every point of disscussion
RE:MUSLIMS ARE REPORTING EVERYTHING AS ABUSE!!!
by Samira Khan on Jul 29, 2007 12:12 AM Permalink
Vinay, you seem to be a man with a sick mind.the first message that Islam brought was of Justice and universal brotherhood. have you ever observed muslims in prayer ?. they all stand before their lord shoulder to shoulder, because before the lord there is no one greater or smaller, everyone is equal in his sight.there was a study done last year which conclusivley proves that muslims in India are upper caste converts by analysing the mitrochondial DNA which is the most accurate way of finding DNA fingerprints.
yes we were hindus before we converted to Islam because we found something good and just, and by the way Islam found a way in the hearts of people in Oman that is why 95-98% of the population there are muslim.the same is the case in Kashmir many people still have their suffix as Pandit, there is nothing wrong in it
