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Only Hindu believers can make any change in Hindu religious customs
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jul 26, 2007 09:41 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies


Only Hindu believers can make any change in Hindu religious customs

When Gandhi joined in Kerala Social movement to open temples to everybody, he was a believer. So was the AKG, who was a part of Congress then, and not part of CPI.

Only Hindu Believers can make any changes in Hindu religious customs.

The Womens Groups who supposedly made that should ask: Are they Hindu believers?

If Yes, did they contact other Hindu Beliver Groups?

Why did they approach Devdasam Board, which is an aberation on a secular state.

Considering all the above, and genetical anti-Hinduism built in CPIM (supported by Islamists and Xtian activists) - we can very well conclude its more of a mischief, than real concern for Womens equality.

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RE:Only Hindu believers can make any change in Hindu religious customs
by Pritish Nagaraj on Jul 26, 2007 09:45 PM  Permalink

First CPIM/ Congress must stop the diverting the funds of Devaswom and TTD to these terrorist masjids and converting churches.

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RE:Only Hindu believers can make any change in Hindu religious customs
by Karthik LakshmiNarasimman on Jul 26, 2007 09:55 PM  Permalink
lET THE WOEN ACTIVITES GO AND TELL MASJID PPL TO ALLOW WOMEN INTO MASJID. WOMEN ARE NOT ALLOWED IN THE MASJID

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Identity crisis!
by Prashant Trivedi on Jul 26, 2007 09:21 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Looks like Taatakthaiyya here was kicked out of the CPIM cadre for some reason. And he has mixed his lot with irrational folks who have driven drivel into his peasized head. He talks of 'Islam' and 'Xtian(LOL! his way of addressing a community)' when it is nowhere relevant to the topic. He's off his rocker for sure. Poor soul! Confused and struggling for an elusive identity. And even if he does get an identity, his low IQ will not permit him to realise that he has one!

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RE:Identity crisis!
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jul 26, 2007 09:33 PM  Permalink


Nobody cares what an Islamist/Evangelical who sold his soul for money say.



You are a bigot. And will get your ass kicked if u say these words in Public.

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RE:Identity crisis!
by Prashant Trivedi on Jul 26, 2007 09:37 PM  Permalink
Look at his language and threat! This is how 'cultured' u are armed with the 'culture' handed down by your forefathers? My dear poor Taatakthaiyya. I really do pity souls like u. I wish God had given u a wee bit more IQ than a mentally challenged snail! I really wish. I'm so selfish. I wish it, coz only then I can enter into any discussion with u!

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RE:RE:Identity crisis!
by Pritish Nagaraj on Jul 26, 2007 09:41 PM  Permalink


Dude you are a confused lot trying to hide from yourself, you are not sure whether Mullah is right or what the world is saying is, either way you will be thrown out.



I hope now you understand the right meaning of Identity Crisis.

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RE:Identity crisis!
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jul 26, 2007 09:43 PM  Permalink


You are a bigot who thinks Hindus will always be suffering from Dhimmitude.



We know your background who fill these forums with anti-Hindu comments.



Naturally you are asking for a reprisal. Stop abusing Hindus, you will not be harmed. But do not expect to go scot free with your bigotary.

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RE:Identity crisis!
by Prashant Trivedi on Jul 26, 2007 10:00 PM  Permalink
So what if I call them 'ridiculous customs'? Is it an abuse? Is it heresy? Is it blasphemous to voice my opinion? The customs per se are not ridiculous coz they were apt at the time when they were formulated. What is ridiculous is that we still hang on to them irrationally, illogically. And when ppl talk of reform, u hold them back with ur baseless arguments?

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RE:Identity crisis!
by Prashant Trivedi on Jul 26, 2007 09:48 PM  Permalink
Look who's abusing whom! Show me one post where I abused any community? I can show u YOUR posts which are abusive of Islam and Xtians(LOL! ur name for a community, can't help laughing). If you can enter into constructive talk, please do. Else buzz off.

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RE:Identity crisis!
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jul 26, 2007 09:54 PM  Permalink


You are a bigot and abusing from the very beginning.



Do not expect Gandhian Hindus anymore. Those days are gone.



Behave, or else be confronted.

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RE:RE:Identity crisis!
by Pritish Nagaraj on Jul 26, 2007 09:52 PM  Permalink
" The only reason you hang on to these --ridiculous customs-- is that they were given to us by our forefathers?" , you have no right to call anything ridiculous unless you have a time context to confirm that it is ridiculous.

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RE:RE:Identity crisis!
by Prashant Trivedi on Jul 26, 2007 09:39 PM  Permalink
Culture given by your fourfathers? Err, forefathers!

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RE:Identity crisis!
by Pritish Nagaraj on Jul 26, 2007 09:38 PM  Permalink
Cool !! atleast you show you are ashamed of your Mohdian name !!



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Ignoramuses galore!
by Prashant Trivedi on Jul 26, 2007 09:14 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

When will ppl like Taatakthaiyya Mukherjee and Surya Kanishka come out of their primitive mindsets? Totally Caveman beliefs! And if ppl like me talk about reform, they have no argument to offer. They jus label us Islamist and Xtian and what not! Just two or three such rotten apples are enough to spoil a basket of 100000000 good apples. They unleash hatred in the not so intelligent minds. This is what is the bane of our nation. Talking of our 'rich culture' and 'our family values' and other such inanities and banalities. You think other nations have no culture. U think other nations have no family values? U think all other nations except India are born out of wedlock?These ppl are literate but not evolved. It takes more than mugging up religious texts to be 'evolved'. No rationale at all. The only reason you hang on to these ridiculous customs is that they were given to us by our forefathers? Is that the only reason? And you talk of the eating habits of ppl as Reason no. 2? I pity and sympathise with Taatakthaiyya and Surya. Intellectually bankrupt folks. And the sad part is that they think that they are the flagbearers of our great India! Pathetic state of affairs. If I had my way I would exile such ppl to the Forests for 400 years, just to make sure they'll never come back to hinder India's progress.

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RE:Ignoramuses galore!
by bluebie on Jul 26, 2007 09:19 PM  Permalink
there are some vhp/bajrangdal as well as probably islamist and x'ian extremist elements in some of these chats at least, trying to spread hate and get some recruits...not many will be swayed by those i guess, as their quotations have become cliched...

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RE:Ignoramuses galore!
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jul 26, 2007 09:19 PM  Permalink


We donot need to engage with Islamists/Xtian Evangelicals like you. Period.



Look at your own ass. Its stinking. Its only Hindus who can discuss/take appropriate measures abt hindu affairs in a temple. A secular state has no juristiction in it.



Its hightime the Devdasam Board is disbanned. Nowehere in India it will be allowed.

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RE:Ignoramuses galore!
by bluebie on Jul 26, 2007 09:21 PM  Permalink
its also true tht u can mind ur own state's business...let Hindus in Kerala decide how things should happen there; u bother with CPI or CPM in Bengal and keep reforming there Mukherjee...

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RE:Ignoramuses galore!
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jul 26, 2007 09:34 PM  Permalink


Since when Hindus in Kerala, other parts became dissimilar? Are we the same country or not? Same law applies or not?

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RE:RE:Ignoramuses galore!
by bluebie on Jul 26, 2007 10:11 PM  Permalink
same law doesnt apply; different laws in different states...repair ur state first then come to the rescue of others u saviour of downtrodden...

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RE:Ignoramuses galore!
by Pritish Nagaraj on Jul 26, 2007 09:35 PM  Permalink
So when there is a attack on Kashmir let only Kashmiri Pandits face it?

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RE:RE:RE:Ignoramuses galore!
by bluebie on Jul 26, 2007 09:49 PM  Permalink
hey pritish, who else is facing it may I know? maybe u? all opportunists who try to push their agenda....

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RE:Ignoramuses galore!
by Pritish Nagaraj on Jul 26, 2007 10:06 PM  Permalink


Is it only Kashmiris who died in Kargil war?

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RE:Ignoramuses galore!
by bluebie on Jul 26, 2007 10:10 PM  Permalink
why r u jumping topics pritish? who asked abt kashmir war now?

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RE:Ignoramuses galore!
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jul 26, 2007 09:47 PM  Permalink


Yes, they want Hindus to be divided Along languages.



But Muslims in Coimbatore start rioting/bombing because what happened at Ayodhya 2000 miles away.



These are bigoted Islamists/Xtian activists. And their ass should be kicked at first sight.

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RE:Ignoramuses galore!
by Prashant Trivedi on Jul 26, 2007 10:25 PM  Permalink
And what if they kick ur ass back to pulp u dimwit moron? Shed ur hatred. Try to live a life of compassion and logical choices. Poor tarnished soul!

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Let CPIM enact such rules in (say) West Bengal - and see what happens
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jul 26, 2007 09:04 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies



In Kerala, Hindus are badly divided along caste. CPIM takes advantage of that along with almost 50% Non-Hindu population.



Let CPIM enact such laws in WB, and see what happens.



It shows how ridiculous CPIM has become. It cannot do anything good, its leaders are fighting each other and they are trying to do these things which would have ashamed people like EMS, Basu.

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RE:Let CPIM enact such rules in (say) West Bengal - and see what happens
by bluebie on Jul 26, 2007 09:05 PM  Permalink
hey mukherjee, wht are u talking abt? How do u know abt Hindus in Kerala? U seem to be a VHP/Bajrangdal follower....

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RE:Let CPIM enact such rules in (say) West Bengal - and see what happens
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jul 26, 2007 09:08 PM  Permalink


I WAS a CPIM follower. Anti-Hindu acts of Jihadis/Xtian/Marxists are forcing many Hindus to wake up and swicth sides.

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RE:Let CPIM enact such rules in (say) West Bengal - and see what happens
by marat on Jul 26, 2007 09:10 PM  Permalink
Go And Do a Long PEE then You Will Get tired

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RE:Let CPIM enact such rules in (say) West Bengal - and see what happens
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jul 26, 2007 09:14 PM  Permalink


Send ur addr, I will send my PEE by post.

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RE:Let CPIM enact such rules in (say) West Bengal - and see what happens
by bluebie on Jul 26, 2007 09:11 PM  Permalink
but why do u always keep repeating xian/muslim in all ur posts? Hindus need not compare themselves with other religions and measure themsleves....It is a religion from the ages and having a great cultural history...The plural nature of our country is something to be proud of rather than to be complained about is wht I feel...

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RE:RE:Let CPIM enact such rules in (say) West Bengal - and see what happens
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jul 26, 2007 09:14 PM  Permalink


hehe..inside out:)-



Get out of Hindu temples/affairs. Its a secular state.

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change
by bluebie on Jul 26, 2007 09:03 PM  Permalink 

cultural, social and religious customs undergo minor changes over time and I think this is one such...I really don't understand what all the fuss is about...

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In what way it matters???
by rama prasad on Jul 26, 2007 08:31 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

We Indians need to welcome good reforms in our practices time to time if needed and at the same time, condemn/supress by all means the pseudo-seculars and their political party affiliations who influences the people just for the sake of fame and votes. I dont think chudidars or any dress matters in any way as long as the dress is decent and not revealing as we need to maintain the dignity of places. God is no ones property he is for all life. It is the Bhakti that matters and not the attire.



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RE:In what way it matters???
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jul 26, 2007 08:34 PM  Permalink


Who are these politically motivated groups to say what Hindus should do or don't?



In a secular country, they cannot get into the temple affair.



Court will throw this one out, if somebody appeals to them.

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RE:In what way it matters???
by Pritish Nagaraj on Jul 26, 2007 08:50 PM  Permalink


Yes that is very true, I believe most of the descrimination was against the people who did not respect Go-matha. It was against those who used to engage in cow slaughter. Cow is something very dear to the Lord. Cow is supposed to be 'Kamadhenu' and a Satvik animal and it represents 33 crore demigods.



Also as per the evolution of Soul theory of 84 lac species in the Shrimad Bhagavatam, the next body the soul in the Cow body migrates to is a Human with Spiritual and Satvik inclination.

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RE:RE:In what way it matters???
by Pritish Nagaraj on Jul 26, 2007 09:01 PM  Permalink
namo brahmanya-devaya

go-brahmana-hitaya ca

jagad-dhitaya krsnaya

govindaya namo namah

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Who are these ''Some Womens Groups''?
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jul 26, 2007 08:16 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies


Who are these "Some Womens Groups"?

They are Communist bodies.

What's their position on Uniform Civil Code?
Equal rights for Women for Muslims, Xtians?

Are Muslim Women allowed to attend Masque to offer Namaz?



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RE:Who are these ''Some Womens Groups''?
by Rakish Poulose on Jul 26, 2007 08:33 PM  Permalink
What is an Xtian?

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RE:Who are these ''Some Womens Groups''?
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jul 26, 2007 08:35 PM  Permalink

who clebrate Xmas.

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RE:RE:Who are these ''Some Womens Groups''?
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jul 26, 2007 08:35 PM  Permalink
* celebrate

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RE:Who are these ''Some Womens Groups''?
by Surya Kanishka on Jul 26, 2007 08:36 PM  Permalink
haha lol

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everybody should be allowed
by godblessusa on Jul 26, 2007 08:14 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

It's not the god who forced this law, it was a group of mallu's , mallu's are cunning people.

Give em enough cash they'll change all rules !!!





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RE:everybody should be allowed
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jul 26, 2007 08:21 PM  Permalink


Temple tera baap ka Hai keya?



If CPIM has guts, let them enact such law. And see what happens.

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not at all a good move
by Patriotic indian on Jul 26, 2007 08:14 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I feel this is not at all a good move.....chudidar is not an indianress, a dress belonging to moghals who ruled india and got adopted by northern part of indians....in the name of making more secular or liberal we need not eradicate our originality....by the way whatever happened in vayalar' son case is a gross mistake for which the priests can be impresoned rigourously!!!!!!

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RE:not at all a good move
by Rakish Poulose on Jul 26, 2007 08:35 PM  Permalink
Why don't you implement the rule that people should be naked while entering the temple so that there is no influence from any non-india culture!!!

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RE:RE:not at all a good move
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jul 26, 2007 08:38 PM  Permalink

Like they do in Churches, as we hear huge number of Sexual, pedofile activities in Churches?

Right?

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RE:not at all a good move
by godblessusa on Jul 26, 2007 08:15 PM  Permalink
go live in 3rd century BC b itch, patriotic my a##

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RE:RE:not at all a good move
by Upurs on Jul 26, 2007 08:39 PM  Permalink
God bless usa....

plz go there,

though i do not agree with the Patriotic India,
u are no good!

GO AWAY!

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RE:RE:RE:not at all a good move
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jul 26, 2007 08:42 PM  Permalink
"Godblessusa" is a convert by xtian evangelical groups.

They have funded terrorism in NE India. Still they do it.

They are actually worse than Jihadis.

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RE:not at all a good move
by Prashant Trivedi on Jul 26, 2007 08:20 PM  Permalink
That is where his mind actually is. Body in the 21st century, and mind in the 3rd century.

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Naivete
by Prashant Trivedi on Jul 26, 2007 07:47 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Yesudas is a christian. That's why he's not allowed. LOL! How uncivilised and ridiculous this concept is. All the ppl with such a haughty attitude have to change. Else they'll be abhorred and shunned in course of time. LOL! High caste and low caste! This is why India takes 100 yrs to do what Japan and USA do in one year in the area of development. Only when Indians change their caveman outlook and become logical and sane thinkers India can develop. Caste politics are the bane of any nation. And why do you think caste politics exist? Everyone curses such politics, but will not budge on their thinking when it comes to themselves. Indians I think are basically naive. The index of naivete can be judge by IQ, belief in superstition, belief in mere mortal Godmen and herd mentality. We have all of these. The least questioning attitude in the world happens to be in India. That's why we progress at a handicapped snail's pace and pat ourselves on our backs. And we gloat about our 'family values' and 'rich culture'. Like we are he only nation in the world who have these virtues and the rest of the nations in the world were born out of wedlock. Bah! Naivete and low IQ to the core.





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RE:Naivete
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jul 26, 2007 08:09 PM  Permalink


Yesudas should do what is done by present Chief Justice of India: Properly convert to Hinduism.



CJI had to use a Xtian name as he was forced to being a poor Dalit hindu to get entry into Xtian missionary run school.



But once he graduated, he became proper Hindu after doing "Ghar-Vapsi" at Arya Samajam.



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RE:Naivete
by Prashant Trivedi on Jul 26, 2007 08:13 PM  Permalink
Eggjactly....Ppl with such a caveman menatality like Mr. Mukherjee here have to be sent on vanvaas...only then India can become a developed nation. These mindsets are abominable! They'll never change and become hurdles in the development process. Please for our nation's sake, let India be in the hands of forward thinking ppl who are devoid of all this caste, custom, tradition naatakbaazi...Ridiculous in this age. The West got out of these things loong back, and look at where they are now. And all our senile Mukherjee minds have stinker mindsets, don't let us move forward.

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RE:Naivete
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jul 26, 2007 08:22 PM  Permalink


Trivedi: U are a Islamist, hiding under a Hindu name. You became exposed from your answer on Muslims womens rights to offer namaz on Masques.



haha..why not use ur own name?

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RE:RE:Naivete
by Prashant Trivedi on Jul 26, 2007 08:32 PM  Permalink
U guys will never change maan. Ur stinker customs, senile traditions are pulling India back while a few educated ppl are trying to pull it on the path of progress. What a pity that ppl like Thaa-thak-thaiyya Mukherjee are still not exiled.

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RE:Naivete
by Surya Kanishka on Jul 26, 2007 08:39 PM  Permalink
Trivedi,



These were made by you forefathers what we do now ?? discard them, cus a stupid Trivedi/ Chaturvedi/ Dubey had told us. Because he received the ray of light through evangelisation. Bagh re bagh yah se.

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RE:Naivete
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jul 26, 2007 08:39 PM  Permalink


hehe..We do not need certificate from Islamists!



That will be awful.

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RE:Naivete
by Prashant Trivedi on Jul 26, 2007 08:29 PM  Permalink
My name happens to be Trivedi by virtue of my birth. I do not prescribe to any religious dogma. I have no double standards. I do not confuse my Spiritualism with caste, creed and religion. My religion is 'Progress'. Suit urselves and pamper ur perv minds.



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