when women with suridhar and pands are accepted by guruvayoor god why not men with pants and shirts. did god demand human beings to behave indecently by showing bare body while entering places of worship.
RE:Jesus in vedas
by Tapu on Jul 27, 2007 10:02 AM Permalink
Christians threw Mahatma Gandhi out of the train, bcoz he had black skin. Christians took black innocent people (like us) from Africa as slaves and sold them in Europian markets. Nelson Mandela was imprisoned and tortured by Christians, Martin Luther King was totured by Christians. Recently Shilpa Shetty was insulted by christians bcoz she is an asian.
Wake up. Accept Hinduism. Hinduism says "Basudeyva Kutumbakkam" this means "The whole world is one family".
RE:Jesus in vedas
by george yacobu on Jul 27, 2007 10:32 AM Permalink
christians thrown mahatmagandhi out of the train and HINDUS KILLED MAHATHMA GANDHI. ARE WE PROUD OF SAYING THIS TO INDIANS. SHILPA SHETTY ALSO KISSED A CHRISTIAN IN PUBLIC DIAS FOR THE SAKE OF MONEY. SHUT
RE:Jesus in vedas
by Tapu on Jul 27, 2007 10:34 AM Permalink
You accept that throwing out of the train by christians is a better treatment than killing him.
RE:RE:Jesus in vedas
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 10:43 AM Permalink
dude get ur logic right ,george makes sense ,ur own hindu brthren kille the grt mahatma ,he not justifyin the throwin out of the train part ,racism and murder are diff issues
RE:Jesus in vedas
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 11:06 AM Permalink
ya ask urself why they treat asians bad ,have u seen em behave here ,spit paan ,dig their noses,litter and if christian countries so bad why do hindus and muslims kill to live in the states despite all the sec class treatment?
RE:Jesus in vedas
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 10:38 PM Permalink
well do u forget wat u said bout me cleaning toilets and doesnt tat make u a person who judges a person with the jobe he does? and i knpw why u dont like the states ,cause ur english sucks and there is too much of christianity around ,but at least u left back for india where u rightly belong and i respect tat and bout ur hare ramas here they nutin but clowns
RE:Jesus in vedas
by Tapu on Jul 27, 2007 12:06 PM Permalink
"ill be makin what u make in 5 years"
This statement tells your materialistic ego. You are proud. Remember these things will make you brain dead. Once Krishna told Arjun, whether someone is King or begger, the suffering in life is same for everybody. Even if Jesus, Mohammed or Ram could not escape.
Read the books from ISCKON (also available in US). Once I purchased these books in San Francisco.
I was also staying in California, New Jursey and North Carolina. But I dont understand why you are so much mad about money.
RE:Jesus in vedas
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 11:10 AM Permalink
and its not christianism its christianity mr ,yes the same school that u went to to get a better education ---
RE:Jesus in vedas
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 11:30 AM Permalink
well i live in america ,am christian and tats the diff in people like u and people who live here ,there is sumthin called dignity of labour and oh lemme tell u even if i clean toilets in amerca ill be makin what u make in 5 years ,got it ,and bout ur father part ,a brain dead man like u cant think beyond ,ur english sucks dude
RE:Jesus in vedas
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 10:41 AM Permalink
well if u think chritians suck in iraq and india ,why do u guys wanna migrte to a christian country ,double stdrs
Dude... chill why does anyone need to be anti-christ or anti something ? You are a temporary cult, you guys come and vanish in thin air, Vedic Culture is Eternal. Even your bible is one leaf of Vedas. Get that straight !
RE:to ashish
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 10:46 AM Permalink
yes ur vedas is all leaf ,u right ,nothin remainin all disintegrated only crazy loonies like u read it and then say DUDe
RE:Our Church is Open to all
by Tapu on Jul 27, 2007 10:01 AM Permalink
Christians threw Mahatma Gandhi out of the train, bcoz he had black skin. Christians took black innocent people (like us) from Africa as slaves and sold them in Europian markets. Nelson Mandela was imprisoned and tortured by Christians, Martin Luther King was totured by Christians. Recently Shilpa Shetty was insulted by christians bcoz she is an asian.
Wake up. Accept Hinduism. Hinduism says "Basudeyva Kutumbakkam" this means "The whole world is one family".
RE:Our Church is Open to all
by Anbu selvi on Jul 27, 2007 10:21 AM Permalink
Hi,
It is not the Christians who did these evils, but whites. The Holy Bible never tells you to discrimate! You are talking about Hinduism! There is caste discrimation in your scriptures!
"The shrine%u2019s managing committee, led by Marxist leader Thottathil Raveendran, amended the dress code after complaints that women had to change into saris or the long skirts before entering. High priest Chennas Rama Namboodiripad was reportedly cold to the idea but gave in after the rest of the panel, most of them Left-leaning members, favoured the change."
It clearly shows hostility towards Hinduism by Maxists. But they forget, its not 1950s/60s when Religion was in decline.
The society has changed and are following more religion.
RE:Thottathil Raveendran, the head of Temple Management Committee is a CPIM Member
by Pritish Nagaraj on Jul 27, 2007 09:06 AM Permalink
YES ! These churches are converting in India and their brethren in Europe and americas are slipping away. They Either become atheist or take up Eastern culture. And most of those, I wont say all, who are turning to Islam have changed to Islam in prison for security provided by Islamist brothers(gangs)inside the prison.
RE:Thottathil Raveendran, the head of Temple Management Committee is a CPIM Member
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 11:12 AM Permalink
and ur hindu brethen are all turnin to havin white weddings and visiting churches all over da world ,only u left in ur lungi
This will explian that Hindus are taking to religion in a big way.
For example: Our father was not very religious, and we were brought up in less religious environment.
The thing has changed in a generation. For many psychological/socio/political/economic reasons, our generation are taking to Hinduism in a big way, and our kids are being raised such.
In essence, today's India is very much different from what it was in 1950s/60s. And CPIM has no place in that.
Its not limited to Hindus of India alone. Its a global phenomenon.
RE:Why CPIM's hostility towards Hinduism is bad thing for CPIM
by Surya Kanishka on Jul 27, 2007 08:49 AM Permalink
Commuications have opened the eyes of the blind and deaf Hindus. We see the reality, motives and hidden agendas.
Things are taken now in different way and levels. Pay back time is not much far.
when u r hungry without anything to eat or when u r poor or ill, religion doesn't help. why do ppl waste so much time on creating hatred between and within religions rather than live their life? everyone should be entitled to their faith (whtever it is) without discrimination and religious hatred; hope we live to see the dawn of tht day
RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 02:36 AM Permalink
well said bluebie ,some people out here think they were around when the vedas were written and they the only righteous religion and truth and get upset when people convert ,more of an inferiority complx
Religion is basically how you behave and think depending on Time Place and Circumstance. That defines your religion. Vedas provide you the knowledge on how to descriminate between the right and the wrong.
RE:RE:religion
by bluebie on Jul 27, 2007 02:46 AM Permalink
i accept tht it is ur belief pritish...concepts of right and wrong exist in all scriptures and it is upto the person to believe whtever they want to...I am not bothered abt the scriptural or religious leanings of anyone...it doesn't matter to me...only thing is why spread hate and create confusion?
RE:religion
by bluebie on Jul 27, 2007 03:04 AM Permalink
hey pritish, maybe there are wrong things happening; but when u spread extremist ideas, u are doing the same thing as many others are doing...we Indians boast of our cultural heritage and tolerance at every possible opportunity but if someone reads the posts on some of these chats or blogs, they will realize the extreme lengths people are going to, to brainwash and bring others down...anyway, I hope and wish tht u are happy in ur beliefs and enjoy ur time...
RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 03:06 AM Permalink
tats my point blue bie ,these guys only wanna condemn people who do good work liie steve waugh and mother thresa ,instead go out and do wat they did ,its not easy,they leave nice countries to work in the villages in india ,how many of us can do it ,in the end at least the poor have something to look foward to in life ,god bless ,am out .
RE:RE:religion
by bluebie on Jul 27, 2007 03:11 AM Permalink
agree ashish; I also know tht many Hindu and other religious/NG organizations also do selfless work (maybe some NGO's are shady too)...I don't care abt the religious part there...at least they help in their own way...
RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 03:21 AM Permalink
wats there to feel abused bout ,dont u guys wear that tikka on ur head ,its a religious symbol ,how did i abuse u ?
RE:religion
by bluebie on Jul 27, 2007 03:27 AM Permalink
well, the difference is tht Iam a Hindu (and I am proud to say tht) from Kerala and we are not taught extremism (luckily)...anyway, unless ppl come and live there, they won't understand tht....there are a lot of bad things abt Kerala like communist strikes, hartals etc but religious extremism at least is not prevalent...thankfully...
RE:RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 03:35 AM Permalink
well said bluebee,pritish material benefits mau be to you but do u realise that roof the poor child has over his head ,that dinner he eats in the night ,the clothes that keep him warm in winter, these may be material to you but ask that little child who has a new life and see what it means to him/her,get real dude ,u shud go see these mission homes before u comment and there agaian no one asks u to convert but at least dont criticize
RE:RE:religion
by bluebie on Jul 27, 2007 03:20 AM Permalink
Itz not u Pritish; check out several of these blogs; it becomes a venue for vehement attacks on different religions, castes and communities....some of the language can almost make u go blind.. u talked abt TTD take over by X'ians, ur post on how u believe "vasudevakudumbakam" where we call for brotherhood irrespective of belief and culture is hurting us etc can be interpreted in the wrong sense by extremist elements...anyway, gotta leave now...
RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 03:24 AM Permalink
blue bie has sumthin for u pritish ,i figure he a hindu too but he not an extremist and i told u bfore i have hindu friends but none of them think fanatical like u and ur allies,i feel hurt when i comment on ur priests weird dressin sense and stuff but u guys give me no option ,else id naver comment
Did speaking against Conversion become Extremism?... what crap ... I'll show you some pics of Hindus being slaughtered in Bangladesh, you'll know what is Extremism.
RE:RE:religion
by bluebie on Jul 27, 2007 03:32 AM Permalink
hey pritish, why don't u do the same then? convert x'ians, muslims and others by showing material benefits? is tht wht u want?
RE:RE:RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 03:39 AM Permalink
very well said blue bee ,why is it upsetin him ,he is gettin eaten up himself ,missionaries will never stop preaching what their religion teaches ,instead of cryin out and feelin sorry for people who think are gettin misled ,he can start goin and spreadin his beliefs,as i said before i have hindu friends but none of em are so fanatical ,its 2007 and the world is changin faster
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 03:50 AM Permalink
so u tryin to convert people in america ,so may be tat was u in the restaurant? and dude paid people are evry where ,even sadhus fleece in the name of hinduism ,babas in islam and even some christians ,let god judge them
RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 04:16 AM Permalink
dude none of my family were ever hindus ,u got ur facts messd up ,we were christians all the way down the years,i feel sorry for u really,i can bet u not from bombay ,u shud go there and see the amt of christians and the respect we get from the hindus and muslims alike ,wake up ,all christians in india are not converts
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 04:04 AM Permalink
vedas is enlightment and knowledge so why u upset when so many people converting?
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 04:32 AM Permalink
and u realise wat u sayin ,if all christians are converts ,may be they saw sumthin in christianity that converted them ,isnt it
Dude, the Christians ON THIS PLANET are CONVERTS. Xianity has a time dude... you are making a mockery of facts !! well I's assuming I's speaking to people who know abt themselves ...atleast !!
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 04:28 AM Permalink
so u agree all english men are christians ? and wat makes u think all christians converted ,did u live in the time of the vedas?
RE:religion
by bluebie on Jul 27, 2007 03:56 AM Permalink
hey pritish, why are u even bothered abt wht other ppl do? paid blind ppl or deaf ppl or whtever; how will it affect u? It is indeed a noble cause to impart the knowledge from the Vedas to others ...shudn't u be doing more of tht?
RE:RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 04:25 AM Permalink
na mate am just tryin to make u see that everything u see as wrong is not ,u have to think from outside the circle not even box ,in the end we all human beings created by one god,we have made differneces in the name of religion,u being hindu doesnt make u a bad person as much as bein christian doesnt make u a good person
RE:RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 04:07 AM Permalink
and wat makes u think benny hinn represents christians all over the world ,i dont know too much bout him ,but i know he has been to india only once so dont know wat conversions u talkin bout ,oh i also know that the pm or president attended his healin service
Dude, you are talking nicely, pleasing to many ears here. ... I wont say anything. Remember what I said and Watch out!, coz it is much more than what I can say speak here.
Those who are trying to grab the control of TTD, 'Dakshina' you gave in temple might be getting used to build a mosque where mullas spread Jihad or Churches were missionaries are going to villages to preach and Convert innocent Hindus to Xianity by giving them the money you put in the Hundi.
It might sound funny to you if you are new to the news papers. visit hindujagruti.org once. You will know what is happening where.
And Ashish, I understand you are from Mumbai, it is a place where people have almost forgotten what Culture at all is, Cutlure only means eating sweet and bursting crackers on Diwali. It is just some Chill culture.
RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 04:56 AM Permalink
no descendant of jesus christ ,he is my lord and oh bombay is not only diwali its also bout id and christmas ,tats the beauty and tats why small town villagers who suddenly come to america get lost in a diff world ,more of a culture shock and no u not an extremist u more of a fanatic
Cool, one more word taught by your parents,.. fanatic !, Villager ! ... thats all you can talk to me. I'm not here to abuse anyway, thats not my culture, its in your blood, go ahead.
RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 05:03 AM Permalink
and u ude words like dude and stuff,isnt that 'chill' culture? and u say i choose words and tatz the culture ,rnt u puttin christians down big time? so tat very justified ah ? but i told ya before u live in america and so much of christianity around u frustrates u ,so i dontblame u ,u feel like a fish outta water
RE:RE:religion
by Pritish Nagaraj on Jul 27, 2007 04:21 AM Permalink
Dude, you are talking nicely, pleasing to many ears here. ... I wont say anything. Remember what I said and Watch out!, coz it is much more than what I can say speak here.
RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 03:59 AM Permalink
cool dude ,i saw a movie where the anti christ wud be livin on earth and whose blood wud be black in colour ,may be u shud go get a check up and see hahaha kiddin
lol ... nope thanks. I always request people enligten themselves with Vedic Wisdom. That is a solution to everything. ... dont talk to me abt food and alms. ... Its quite beyond that...
Human Life is meant for something beyond doing what animals do ... eating sleeping mating and defending.
RE:religion
by bluebie on Jul 27, 2007 03:42 AM Permalink
ppl enlighten themselves with vedic wisdom is fine...don't take the moral highground and say tht tht is the solution to everything...maybe u should try to live without essential things such as food, water, shelter etc and then say this again...
RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 03:46 AM Permalink
ya pritisb if life is more than sleeping eating ,wat more do u do ,and u dont look at chics or wat? come on
RE:RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 04:02 AM Permalink
well iv been thought to appreciate beautiful things in life and if u attribute it to my culture ,thank u ,come on dude dont tell me u gay
Yes they are dying because, fighting with each other. They are the victim of their system.
Whereas in Bangladesh, there is organized terrorism by the govt focussing on the Hindus. There were 40% and now it is 8%. The 32% is being reported as 'Missing'. ..Gulp it.
RE:religion
by bluebie on Jul 27, 2007 03:46 AM Permalink
whtever it is, a death is a death; hindu, muslim, christian or aethist; wht specifically causes u to highlight this above all the other deaths? Instead of condemning all violence, u are trying to act as protector of Hindus in B'desh alone...
RE:religion
by bluebie on Jul 27, 2007 04:03 AM Permalink
I don't know abt mullahs protecting ppl in Iraq...at least 100 die in suicide attacks on a daily basis; it cannot be tht all those who die are terrorists or suicide bombers...noone is protecting Hindus in India at least bcoz u don't need any protection (thankfully); itz a sad thing in B'desh...when terrorists blow up trains or buildings, it is not only Hindus who die...noone looks whether all muslims and x'ians left the building before doing these acts...at least in the context of India, this sort of argument does not hold good...
Yes I agree with you on that. Death is death. But the Iraquis has Mullas protecting them with guns. Who you think protecting the Hindus ? I'm also not. Wish I could, but I'm trying to donate something to the organizations once in a while that go to the field to help such victims. I'm doing a different service that will atleast make sure that people never have to get into such situation. .. Prevention is better than Cure.
RE:RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 03:48 AM Permalink
seriously pritish ,u think hindus are the only one shedding bood and the only ones who have to be moarned for? christians die in america ,muslims in iraq ,they humans too
Again I never used any word to abuse. I always said, I'm against conversion. Conversion by showing material benefits ! ... As I always said, Hindus especially the poor uneducated are Gullible.
Well, you abuse me too, you said to me 'some one with painted Head in a resturant', so did I tell you anything for you to say that? .... Shut up and think, you dont even know who you are !!
RE:RE:religion
by bluebie on Jul 27, 2007 03:36 AM Permalink
this sort of thing is happening everywhere; look at Iraq-daily at least 100 are dying without even tht making any news...why is it tht u only talk abt the Hindus dying in B'desh (believe me, I totally condemn it and agree tht it is brutal..)isn't blood of the same colour or not?
RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 03:26 AM Permalink
and no ones tackling u ,this aint a soccer game ,its all view points ,no one askin u to change ur ways or religion ,each to his own
RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 03:11 AM Permalink
pritish ,miracles happen with ur belief in god ,even hindu priests claim miracles so do muslim babas,am not talkin of those examples,am talkin of their work with the poor and needy ,the lepers ,the homeless ,hey am sorry bout the indiansm bit dude ,ur english is good
RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 03:19 AM Permalink
all 5 fingers not the same and u forget incidents in india where hindu priests raped and looted too --- go reserach before pointin fingers
RE:religion
by george yacobu on Jul 27, 2007 10:44 AM Permalink
YOUR KANCHI SHEER IS FACING A MURDER TRIAL IN THE COURT. MANY HINDU RELIGIOUS GODS MURDERED PEOPLE AND PUT BEHIND BARS. PLEASE TALK ABOUT YOUR PROBLEMS.
Well the thread was, someone said why at all Hindus live outside India if they feel there are attrocities on them. I said It was a Vedic Planet, you asked me if I lived during that time, basically asking me to prove, so I gave you the Scriptural Evidence. That It !
RE:religion
by bluebie on Jul 27, 2007 02:57 AM Permalink
Hey Pritish, tht has nothing to do with proving... My question was whether Pareekshit/Ambarish/ Prhlaad existed...
RE:RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 05:05 AM Permalink
k mate have a gd evenin and im beginnin to think ure the anti christ hahahh ,so wat do u do when u drive by all the lovely churches on ur streets ,close ur eyes? feel sorry for u dude ,good luck
RE:religion
by Pritish Nagaraj on Jul 27, 2007 09:07 AM Permalink
Dude... chill why does anyone need to be anti-christ or anti something ? You are a temporary cult, you guys come and vanish in thin air, Vedic Culture is Eternal. Even your bible is one leaf of Vedas. Get that straight !
RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 02:45 AM Permalink
pritish ,sorry but 'replied me ' is incorrect ,its called indianism when they teach call centres in india correct grammar
RE:RE:RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 02:50 AM Permalink
evasive? no dude ,was an observation as back home in india ,people who said please reply me ,were pulled up for incorrect english
RE:RE:RE:RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 03:02 AM Permalink
indianism is a term used for speakin english the indian way ,which is a no no in the BPO industry as they deal with americans,some words like pritish used
RE:RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 02:49 AM Permalink
wasnt talkin bout written english ,was talkin bout spoken english ,u said u were gonna baptize me ,doesnt tat make u a missionary too ? enjoy ur grammar lessons its free
RE:RE:religion
by Pritish Nagaraj on Jul 27, 2007 02:45 AM Permalink
I dont know what you meant by this .."there are a lot of scriptures....it is ur choice to believe wht u want and each and everyone's for wht they want....so be happy in ur belief...."
I thought you were challenging what I said abt Vedic Kings and 'Bharata Khanda'.
when u r hungry without anything to eat or when u r poor or ill, religion doesn't help. why do ppl waste so much time on creating hatred between and within religions rather than live their life? everyone should be entitled to their faith (whtever it is) without discrimination and religious hatred; hope we live to see the dawn of tht day
RE:religion
by bluebie on Jul 27, 2007 02:23 AM Permalink
convert my foot; look at how biased u r when u debate something....did I force u to believe Hindu, Muslim or Christian ideologies anywhere in my postings? This is called paranoia...
RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 02:29 AM Permalink
pritish at least the missionaries help the poor ,why dont u do something for the poor in india instead of condemnin people who help
RE:RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 02:43 AM Permalink
cool dude u a convert too ? dont worry am baptised already ,but i didnt get baptised for money ,hope the money did u some good
RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 02:38 AM Permalink
i never said only christian missionaries help ,u the one sayin they try to convert people with their doings,so all i said is at least they help the poor ,so instead of grumbling try and emaluate their work
RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 02:55 AM Permalink
old man cool dude,u shud be sleepin ,same way as vedics like u come to the states and mahesh becomes mike,peter becomes pete ,ur sadhus willl get mad at u too,beware
RE:religion
by bluebie on Jul 27, 2007 02:39 AM Permalink
pritish, anyone regardless of their religious background, if they help the poor, are doing a selfless job...
RE:religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 02:47 AM Permalink
well my family was baptised in 1954 which makes u an old man ,so go relax in ur home for the aged instead of tryin to look cool here
May I ask, what was the first religion formed after the big bang and how did this culture thing start?.... Anybody....???? Who brought in all these so-called rules,regulations,holy books... who the hell knows what is right and what is wrong... and what is superstitious and what is not?
RE:Religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 02:00 AM Permalink
pritish saw this bloke with a lungi and some paint on his forehead in an indian restaurant in la ,wasnt u by any chance ? sorry ,just askin ,talkin bout upanishads and stuff
RE:Religion
by ashish on Jul 27, 2007 02:39 AM Permalink
well u got offended so i asked ,guess u embarressed with ur vedic dressin sense some of r brethren have
