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Haneef's episode
by krishna ganesan on Jul 25, 2007 12:00 AM  Permalink 

The news regarding Haneef is real tragedy for any innocent man caught in paranoid security forces' radar. Any one, forget wherever he belongs, this is the tragedy that can take ones' lives out of track within a minute. You need not be Christian or Hindu to escape it. It can happen to anyone. My point is understand the humane angle of the episode and stop stereotyping.

Unrelated to this story, our high intellectual class often stereotype any inadvertant accident with women as molestation and what not... After seeing guys driving the mahindra jeep, it is certain that 10 year old girl was not molested as suggested by women groups but met with an accident.

Therefore, we must not keep stereotyping every one with one incident.

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Message to satya
by Libran on Jul 24, 2007 11:55 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Satya
You are extremely biased against RSS/VHP.
RSS has no mind set to destroy Muslims or to convert Muslims.
You have only couple od retaliatory incidents like Gujrath or Babri Masjid. It is utterly non-sense to attribute to RSS or VHP for that because RSS or VHP does not have that much influence or clout to relatiate in such a big way. It was a huge chunk of Hindus that got enraged in Gujrath over burning of Kar Sevaks. Fact that the riots did not spread to any other parts of India including where BJP ruled shows the constraint and shows it was reliatory. If RSS had really masternibded the Gujrath problems there would have been problems all over India or at the least where BJP was in power. Also, it did not go to another temporal segment.
This is such contrast to Islamic terrorists attitude.

I always get this picture in mind when I remember Gujrath:
An elephant is sleeping and a fleet of insects with sharp stings biting the pachyderm. Being a pachyderm, it does not care. Emboldened by elephant's lax attitude they swarm on the elephant and trouble it continously. The elephant wakes up and splashes its trunk on its back instantly killing many insects. But splat was so intense that even elephant gets back hurts a little. But it does not care and goes to sleep. But other animals jealous of elephants normally good behaviour make fun of it trying again to make it angry. If the elephnat gets angry who is repsonsible?

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RE:Message to satya
by adfasd asdasd on Jul 25, 2007 12:53 AM  Permalink
RETALITION!!!! hahahahahaha...
what alogic and what a story...

Sir Why are you hanging the guilty of Bomb Blasts???

wasnt that in retalition of the riots...

wake up buddy it is you who is prejudiced and partial.

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RE:Message to satya
by pearl on Jul 25, 2007 02:08 AM  Permalink
Please dont talk taking sideof RSS/VHP. They are not doing anything for the country but just to benefit themselves. For that matter Shivsena and all political parties.

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Request to rediff to reduce the news about Haneef.
by Libran on Jul 24, 2007 11:49 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

It is clear that Haneef is neither a terrorist who bombed nor he is 100% innocent. He should neither be treated like a hero nor a demon. He should be treated like any other person accused to be a criminal.
Do you publish every move of all accused people?
If you do is that not a waste of time and resources - Ours and yours?
So it is my humble request to stop giving so much importance to this news. There are many other important news items in other news papers that I don't see here on rediff.
There are many places where huge masses of people peacefully protesting SEZ's - why is that not a news - Is that because they are peaceful?

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RE:Request to rediff to reduce the news about Haneef.
by adfasd asdasd on Jul 25, 2007 12:33 AM  Permalink
This news is very important brother as the whole world wants to tarnish us Indians as terrorists....


and no its not because of the muslims its a greater game plan of imperialistic nations who are conquering people and countries who are taking advantage of foolish devils like osama and kafeel etc....

ALl of us need to be aware of what happened to haneef and why???

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RE:RE:Request to rediff to reduce the news about Haneef.
by pearl on Jul 25, 2007 02:09 AM  Permalink
100% with you....

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Terrorism
by Rehana on Jul 24, 2007 11:41 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Mr Satya,
Have you heard any hindu planting a bomb?
Have you heard any hindu executing any terrorist attack internationally?
Have you heard of any hindu like Osama omitting the evils against all other religions?
And whatever you say about Sangh Parivar but this is beyond doubt that it acts in the interest of nation, not like muslim terrorists which act in the interest of their religion. So it is obvious that Sangh parivar can never be compared with terrorists. Because as you can see that muslim terrorists are not nationalists even, the example of Lal Masjid in Pakistan is self explanatory.


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RE:Terrorism
by adfasd asdasd on Jul 25, 2007 12:10 AM  Permalink
Mr Rehana......
Have you heard about the Guj riots
Have you heard about the Bhagalpur riots
What about the mumbai riots
what about the killings of lower/upper castes
Have you heard about ULFA
Have you heard about the Naxals

Wake up cinderalla...is hamaam mein sab nange hain...

All of our soceities have its own ills...the solutions will come when you start looking at issues from a humans eye and not as a hindu or a muslim

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RE:Terrorism
by Libran on Jul 25, 2007 12:26 AM  Permalink
Guj riots - retaliation for buring 55 people alive = Please read my post above for more on Gujrat
Bhagalpur riots - No I have not heard abt this. SO cannot and should not comment
Mumbai - riots - Again retailation - Moreover, it was not one sided cowrd terror attck on unsuspecting people. It was a battle.
lower/upper caste problem - this is a major problem of Hinduism. But this was not against another religion nor against another country. Moreover, surprisngly and painfully , it is rampant in other Non-Hindu religions too.

ULFA and Naxalites movements are fomented by anti- national element funded by outside agencies mainly like ISI and Bangla and also some western countries.

Real problem with Hinduism is the discrimination between the castes - not he caste sstem itself.





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RE:Terrorism
by adfasd asdasd on Jul 25, 2007 12:30 AM  Permalink
RETALIATION????

Man if you talk retaliation then every action is based on retaliation....

Every terrorist will say that they are retaliating to something....

Also if you kill and innocent you kill an innocent...

what your above comment says is that if a hindu is killed by a hindu then its ok than a hindu killed by a muslim or vice-versa...

your narrow minded thinking makes me sick

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cool down my fellow indians!!
by Anil Kumar on Jul 24, 2007 11:25 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

amar i understand your frustation with terror attcks in india by muslim terrorists.but lets treat them as terrorists not the whole community should be blamed.Thease are terrible crimes and i hope fellow muslim brothres will understand the anger and frustation.

muslim are 14% of indian population..means 140 million..just say(for debate)even we have 14,000 terrorists(which is 1% say for )!! what about the innocent 99% of our innocent brothers and fellow indians. remember these are mostly unemployed and a target of pakistan ISI,so lets hope for overall development in India including muslims and educated and wise muslims needs to do a lot better job to reform their community,no doubt!!

don't forget these 99% own India as much we hindus do!!most of them are also living in this country for 5000 years.

SO lets not try to divide ,we should all unite in this hour of crisis,thats what for our nation is formed.Unity in diversity,freedom and secular democracy.


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RE:cool down my fellow indians!!
by Priya Jay on Jul 24, 2007 11:43 PM  Permalink
I think you havent been with the fundamentalist muslims in schools and colleges in India! Very few muslims are patriotic, atleast not harmful to country.

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RE:RE:cool down my fellow indians!!
by adfasd asdasd on Jul 25, 2007 12:16 AM  Permalink
My dear when you yourself have fundamentalist thoughts in your head and look at muslims as "MUSLIMS"...you will never understand them....

I guess thats what the case is with you...i think i understand your mentality now.

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OZ IS FAMOUS FOR????
by UmaShankar SathyaKumar on Jul 24, 2007 11:23 PM  Permalink 

Don't reply as 'KANGARO' or 'Bangaru'...

RACISTS, Who hate all non-white skinners!!

Few exceptions do apply!

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