We need to carry a debate on weather who is innocent and who is not. Lal masjid inmates were innocent or musharraf, saddam hussain was innocent or the shia's whom he killed, iraqi sucide bombers r innocent or iraqi govt, kashmir terroists r innocent or security forces, Sant Sarmad who was beheaded by Aurengzeb was innocent or Aurengzeb, Hazrat Imam Hussain was innocent or Yazeed??
In this Case, 1. Only the people in the Lal Masjid was innocent. 2.In Iraq neither shia or Saddam is Innocent, the real Innocent is People. 3. In Kashmir also the innocent people are innocent. 4. I dont know about aurengzeb history, so i dont comment without knowing any thing. 5. Hazrat Imam Hussain was innocent.
in most of the cases innocent people are the real innocent like Mohd Haneef.
RE:EVERY MUSLIM SHOULD KNOW THAT NON MUSLIMS ALSO WEEP!!
by ASHRAF NATHER on Jul 24, 2007 06:26 PM Permalink
Dear Varghese,
I want to tell u that those who are killing innocent people are terrorist, whether he is muslim , hindu , christian or any religion. Terrorist dont have any religion. if they want to fight, let them fight with the govt of that country, why they are killing innocent people. becoz they can't fight with the govt ( like the case of Lal Masjid).
Again i want to tell the people that whose who are killing innocent, they dont have any religion.
RE:EVERY MUSLIM SHOULD KNOW THAT NON MUSLIMS ALSO WEEP!!
by mbawmba on Jul 24, 2007 06:48 PM Permalink
Terrorism is there in India. How much and whether it could be easily defeated?
Perhaps.
I am certainly glad that we are not living in Iraq, Palestine , Afghanistan etc.
RE:EVERY MUSLIM SHOULD KNOW THAT NON MUSLIMS ALSO WEEP!!
by Samira Khan on Jul 24, 2007 06:28 PM Permalink
varghese, you seem to be a man with fixed ideas and mindset.Islam by its very name means peace, who so ever is committing a crime by terrorism or otherwise is a criminal.Islam is the 2nd biggest religion with more than a billion people, and should not be judged for a few people who are misled.you dont judge christianity by its preists who commit wanton acts of paedophilia with young children.
All muslims should be very careful even while helping their fellow muslims or friends. Good muslims unnecessarily get in to such a trap. It is a big task before Haneef to prove himself innocent. If he succeedes, well and good but if does not then GOD knows what will happen?
why cry over your daughter haneef when people like you take away so many innocent lives who could be somebody's son...husband...daughter...wife...you don't just kill the people-you take away all the happiness from them-people like you should be hanged on public roads for the world to see the Traitor of Mankind.
RE:xyz
by JGN on Jul 24, 2007 06:21 PM Permalink
I think people like you do not have even one good muslim friend. That is the reason for hating the entire community for the acts of some fanatics.
So far as we all could understand, Haneef is innocent and deserve our sympathies. Otherwise there is no difference between religious fanatics (of all hues) and moderates.
RE:xyz
by Samira Khan on Jul 24, 2007 06:29 PM Permalink
varghese, you seem to be a man with fixed ideas and mindset.Islam by its very name means peace, who so ever is committing a crime by terrorism or otherwise is a criminal.Islam is the 2nd biggest religion with more than a billion people, and should not be judged for a few people who are misled.you dont judge christianity by its preists who commit wanton acts of paedophilia with young children.
RE:xyz
by on Jul 24, 2007 06:30 PM Permalink
JGN...i'm a muslim myself but a good one...not like the terrorists who consider themselves our brothers...they were and shall always be traitors..as far as hatred for the word 'people' is concerned,i meant'terrorists' as 'those people' ...it's up to you to decide whether u r one of'them'.
I feel sad to find that nobody trusts a muslim anymore.it breaks my heart.
RE:xyz
by JGN on Jul 24, 2007 06:39 PM Permalink
Dear friend, I am a hindu, but I do not think all Indian Muslims are traitors. When I think of muslims, the image that comes to my mind if not of Osama Bin Laden, but my good friend Shabir's.
I also know that there are bad elements in all religions (including mine) but painting the entire community with one brush is irrational.
RE:WHY
by sushil chamaria on Jul 24, 2007 06:21 PM Permalink
YES SURESH SINGH, ACTUALLY THE MEDIA IS THE BIGGEST CULPRIT,THEY JUST WANT TO STAY IN ATTENTION FOR THEM SOMONES PAIN AND SUFFERING IS IRRELEVANT. NEXT WE SHOULD NOT CALL THESE PEOPLE AS TERRORIST BUT PRESS SHOULD ADRESS THEM AS COWARDS.
RE:crap news
by on Jul 24, 2007 06:14 PM Permalink
ravi...they become mrtyrs only for cowards who try to prove themselves right by killing human beings.Not sensible and true muslims would ever create such horrible crime.
RE:sympathy
by Arif Miandad on Jul 24, 2007 06:14 PM Permalink
Haneef is totally innocent. He is a able doctor and not a fanatical fundamentalist. This is the Australian racist attitude that is preventing his release. Pray that our brother Haneef returns back safely to India to be with his family.
That was touching ... poor Haneef must be undergoing a nighmarish experience. Hope he proves his innocence and comes out unscathed. Lets all pray for his early release.
RE:Touching moment
by vasant patil on Jul 24, 2007 06:11 PM Permalink
Aren't you touched when many bodies were ripped off in mumbai train blasts which were carried by muslim terrorists ?
RE:Touching moment
by on Jul 24, 2007 06:17 PM Permalink
bhai Arif...you should be thinking of all those who could have died had he been roaming free in the society today.Don't waste your prayers on such people...we need to pray for a peaceful society not for murderers
Let someone be convicted/proven for a crime before tarnishing his image.. It takes just one person to destroy image of a country but the same way it takes just one good act by a person to make the image.. let Haneef be punished if proved.. but going by the reports in Indian Express.. we need our Govt to insure a fair trial/investigation..
RE:Touching moment
by Amandeep Singh on Jul 24, 2007 06:17 PM Permalink
It is a shame that few self styled patriots have made it a minority bashing platform. For them only Hindus can be patriots and all others are fundamentalists, terrorists and anti-nationals.
Be rational my dear fellow countrymen. An Indian, I repeat an Indian is in problem. Why create such a fuss when all evidence about his involvement is crumbling?
Let us hope this case becomes a benchmark for our government to help Indian nationals in distress in overseas lands.
RE:RE:Touching moment
by anti on Jul 24, 2007 06:32 PM Permalink
prajee tussi chup karke bai jao bauta dimag chalaan di lod ni haigee twadeey dimag de 12 baj gaye ne
RE:Touching moment
by Amandeep Singh on Jul 24, 2007 06:40 PM Permalink
I think ur close female relation has been taken away and you are in distress. That's when your forefathers used to call my forefathers.
We have equal right to speak as you. You cannot use the majority tag to be the judge.
RE:RE:Touching moment
by vasant patil on Jul 24, 2007 06:13 PM Permalink
Anurag..first he will think of muslim brothers of the world..then very own desh.