dera fellow indians,please don't give childisg opinions and shoew hatread for the whole indian muslim community.
i uderstand the points made by some muslim brothers,i also felt very bad and dipressed that indians can do this(uk and aus) .as an NRI let me tell you that Indian government can't do much with foreign government like Australia beyond a point.Haneef's relatives are involved in a terror plot(if that is proven)and he knows them personally and interacted with them,allegdly given them the SIM card ETC.any one will have doubt,lets not play victim,minority attitude here
let him face the difficult time and come out of it.Indian embassy here in Aus is already arranged legal support.he is treated like this because he is indian not from pakistan or any other country,belive me on this.
.if he has done even a small mistake or not..but let the justice system decide that.
I know how much damage these so called terrorist NRI guys have done to India and its muslims in particular.
I also wish and pray atleast haneef should prove innocent.
RE:lets wish and pray!!
by Anil Kumar on Jul 24, 2007 10:56 PM Permalink
amar i understand your frustation with terror attcks in india by muslim terrorists.but lets treat them as terrorists not the whole community should be blamed.Thease are terrible crimes and i hope fellow muslim brothres will understand the anger and frustation.
muslim are 14% of indian population..means 140 million..just say(for debate) we have 14,000 terrorists(which is 1% say for example)!! what about the innocent 99% of our innocent brothers and fellow indians.
don't forget these 99% own India as much we hindus do!!most of them are also living in this country for 5000 years.
SO lets not try to divide ,we should all unite in this hour of crisis,thats what for our nation is formed.Unity in diversity,freedom and secular democracy.
RE:lets wish and pray!!
by Anil Kumar on Jul 24, 2007 11:08 PM Permalink
sudhir,i said as an exmple,there may not be 140o also..!! your reaction is a lit sinical.I can understand your frustation.
"When I have said quite clearly we believe this matter, complex as it is, has been handled appropriately by the authorities, I mean it," Mr Rudd said. "I've said it from day one."
Mr Rudd said terrorism was a serious matter for any prime minister or would-be prime minister.
"These are tough decisions, I understand the complexity of them. I also understand the complexity of the civil liberties argument," he said. "But on terrorism we must adopt a hardline posture.
"Terrorists mean this country no good whatsoever. When it comes to the protective measures adopted by our security forces, we have to be hardline and robust. On the action taken by the Immigration Minister, based on information provided, we support his decision." Mr Rudd said he would not comment on the matter before the courts and said it should run its course: "I have a responsibility to act on the basis of the information provided and I have done so." The federal Labor leader.
What are you really gaining out of this.. this is shear stupidity.. there are better means of publicity.. for a person whose alleged crime has not been proven you have generated enough hatered , not just amongst international community but even Indians.. Please stop this cheap publicity stunt..
RE:what are you gaining..
by Tam Jhaam on Jul 24, 2007 10:34 PM Permalink
Rediff, Why are you putting out the sob story of a suspected terrorist, who is being deported from a western country. His guilt or lack thereof has not been established. We should treat him like an ordinary man, and his choking up should not be a news. if you are looking for a better story from a competent Journalistic standpoint, why don't you investigate Khafeel's relatives and investigate the environment of indoctrination that those brothers went through before planning a massacre in London, and how can we stop this in future. Wouldn't that be constructive journalism.
Friends.. I still believe that our Govt should send a team to ensure fair investigations/trials to AUS, especially after reading those news about leaks etc from AUS Police..
Rediff Guys.. if you indeed have some social responsibility.. please do something about it..
RE:Please do somthing !!
by Sedan on Jul 24, 2007 10:27 PM Permalink
Well the only is keeping on talking reason and not get frustrated with insane people. Probably they will begin to reason one. Don't lose hope Aleem
RE:Please do somthing !!
by Naseem on Jul 24, 2007 10:29 PM Permalink
Aleem everybody know that Dr.Haneef is innocent. Definetly he vll get a fair trail. We have to pray for his early release from jail and let him get into his daily life as fast as possible.Hope he does not loose his job
RE:Please do somthing !!
by Sedan on Jul 24, 2007 10:33 PM Permalink
Dr.Hanif is as much an Indian citizen as you.So, shut up. If he proved to be a terrorist there are laws to punish him.
RE:Please do somthing !!
by Sedan on Jul 24, 2007 10:25 PM Permalink
Fact finder you are scary man. If you get a chance to make judgements on people. You will make them without listening and hearing. I see in you all the traits of an insane person. I hope you never sit in a position of power.
RE:RE:Please do somthing !!
by Sedan on Jul 24, 2007 10:37 PM Permalink
How do yu know he is a terrorist? If you have information and you are not telling the police, then you are liable to be anotehr Hanif. be careful!
RE:Please do somthing !!
by Anil Kumar on Jul 24, 2007 10:33 PM Permalink
aleem,i uderstand your point and i also felt very bad and dipressed that indians can do this(uk and aus) .as an NRI let me tell you that Indian government can't do much with foreign government like Australia beyond a point.Haneef's relatives are involved in a terror plot(if that is proven)and he knows them personally and interacted with them,allegdly given them the SIM card ETC.any one will have doubt,lets not play victim,minority attitude here
let him face the difficult time and come out of it.Indian embassy here in Aus is already arranged legal support.he is treated like this because he is indian not from pakistan or any other country,belive me on this.
.if he has done even a small mistake or not..but let the justice system decide that.
I know how much damage these so called terrorist NRI guys have done to India and its muslims in particular.
I also wish and pray atleast haneef should prove innocent.
RE:Please do somthing !!
by Anil Kumar on Jul 24, 2007 11:02 PM Permalink
NOW THIS IS STUPIDITY 'ROCKU'.I AM SURE EVEN MUSLIM BROTHERs WILL DIAGREE WITH YOU.2 WRONGES WILL NOT MAKE A RIGHT!!.You are balimg the whole hindus like some are blaming whole muslims...don't you agree at the time of indipendance the same majority hindus accepted muslims as a part of India.Voilance breeds voilance!! our job as young is work hard and achive peace and more unity of this fast developing 'great' country.not issing idiotic statments like you and some other guys are doing here.
RE:Please do somthing !!
by Sedan on Jul 24, 2007 10:47 PM Permalink
Sledgerman, you sure are a Pakistani. You want the Indians to fight so that you can take another piece of land out of India
RE:Please do somthing !!
by Anil Kumar on Jul 24, 2007 11:14 PM Permalink
ROCKU is also looks like a pakistani sedan? whay do you think...these guys want us to fight each other.
There seems to be seriously wrong with Sonia Gandhiji!!! She appointed a traitor like Pratibha Patil for Presedency post? Does sonia need puppets to dance on her tune. first, we have puupet in form of manmohan and now pratibha will follow him.. Is sonia playing chappell role, where he made rahul dravid and kiran more puppets and spoiled indian cricket
My dear fellow Indian brothers who are using offensive and irresponsible words against Dr. Haneef and the Muslims as a whole, would you please reply my small query ? I think you know the stories of The Mahabharata much more better than me. Do you use offensive and abusive words against Yudhisthir for the misdeeds of Duryadhan ? If not then why to abuse Dr. Haneef for some misdeed done by his second cousin ?
RE:A question to those who justify the way Dr. Haneef is treated by the Australian police and few politicians
by Sedan on Jul 24, 2007 10:18 PM Permalink
Rahman, If you carefully look, these are only a few people who keep on repeating hate messages. They are no less fundamentalists than the suicide bombers who kill the innocent. If these guys get a chance to blow themselves up and kill innocent, probably they will. They are ignorant and I dont think understand or know religion or really pray to God for that matter. So ignore them.
RE:A question to those who justify the way Dr. Haneef is treated by the Australian police and few politicians
by Sedan on Jul 24, 2007 10:39 PM Permalink
I think you lack knowledge. You are in a well. Grow up and get out into the beautiful world that God has given us
RE:A question to those who justify the way Dr. Haneef is treated by the Australian police and few politicians
by Kingchn on Jul 24, 2007 10:56 PM Permalink
There was an reported case in Singapore were an Lawyer turned into some terror act due to some false information along with some terrorist contact from the internet. If you really want to understand Quran please buy one which is authenticated by the scholars. As a whole, no matter which religion you want to learn and understand don%u2019t get into the internet.
RE:A question to those who justify the way Dr. Haneef is treated by the Australian police and few politicians
by Md Rahman on Jul 24, 2007 10:57 PM Permalink
subag see this is how God Defined Himself in chapter 112 of The Holy Quraan.
1. Say: He, Allah, is One,
2. Allah, the Eternal,
3. He begets not, nor is He begotten,
4. And there is none like unto Him.
I pray to this God only. I think you are misguided by some devil's site. I think its best if you buy a copy of The Holy Quraan from some book shop if you are really interested to know it.
RE:A question to those who justify the way Dr. Haneef is treated by the Australian police and few politicians
by Md Rahman on Jul 24, 2007 10:24 PM Permalink
Sedan, yes you are right. But sometime you know I feel very bad. None should fall pray of those provocations. Good citizens need to keep more and more patience.
