Hello, I was born in Pakistan (please don't start abusing just yet). I was born a Muslim, but I consider myself a humanist...if there is such a thing. Not all Pakistani's are fanatics, most are common folks working hard and putting up with a lot of crap to make ends meet. Politics is a very dirty business and one cannot distinguish between lies and the truth, so I will not comment on that. But i know one thing for sure, when someone explodes a bomb in Bombay or Karachi or Islamabad, it is always the common bystander that gets killed. It is very painful to see any common person get killed. I think common people should stick together and shun all religious/political powers because I think a patriot is someone who protects his/her state from the government of the day. Sorry if i offended anyone. Take care.
That made a lot of sense, and I agree with everything you say. By my previous statement (see below), what I was trying to say was not that all Pakistanis are criminals (not in the least).
In fact, I am not peeved with Pakistanis at all. My gripe - if any - is with Indian Muslims, who seem to go silent whenever any of their co-religionists - irrespective of nationality - does anything. This includes even abusing their country of birth.
RE:RE: Pakistan
by on Jul 24, 2007 01:26 AM Permalink
Every Muslim is not terrorist , but every terrorist is Muslim . Said by bill oreally , fox news , USA.
RE:The Paki David Johnson
by praveen kumar on Jul 18, 2007 08:47 AM Permalink
@hate retards
they are not "indian muslims" but "muslim Indian's" as they rate their relgion first than their mother land ..so 'muslim indians' will be the apt naming terminology.
RE:The Paki David Johnson
by dinesh on Jul 18, 2007 07:15 AM Permalink
rulers.......... be a spartan if u want to be rulers.. dont stand in the queue of minorites....
USA supported Pakistan from the beginning. Ever in his fight against terrorism Mr. Bush of USA used Pakistan and treated the country as partner in his project. But none in India believed Mr. Bush and condemned him for his dual role. Now after the action of army in Lal Masjid I think at least a few of his antagonists will realize that due to relentless efforts of Mr. Bush Mr. Musharaf has been changed. As a matter of fact it is his pressure that the action in Lal Masjid became possible. Pakistan government was hitherto utilizing and playing with ISI and its sponsored/promoted numerous terrorist organisations.They entered into agreement with Talibanis to have peace in Pakistan (and to allow disturbance in neighboring countries, or enemy countries identified by Bin Laden or his groups) Now the same militant organizations or terror groups are threatening Pakistan Government of retaliation against action of Government in Lal Masjid. Same thing had happened to Smt Indira Gandhi in India when she first promoted Bhinderwale in Punjab and indirectly promoted his militancy for her own vested interest. Later on the Bhinderwale became too strong to be controlled or used by her. Militancy grew in Golden Amritsar Temple and became unmanageable. Lastly late Gandhi had to permit Army to enter into pious place of worship and conduct operation Blue star to flush out terrorists from pious place of Punjabis. As a consequence there was huge repercussions and many threats were given to the
RE:lesson for Mr. Musharaf
by David Johnson on Jul 18, 2007 06:19 AM Permalink
It was imperative for Bush to support Pakistan. US army is heavily dependent on Pak Army to fight the radicals in Afghanistan. Pakistan is now facing the brunt of radicals for siding with the US.
RE:RE:lesson for Mr. Musharaf
by True Indian on Jul 18, 2007 06:30 AM Permalink
It was China who ordered Musharraf to act against Lal Masjid. How can Musharraf deny his father? He had to act even against the wishes of ISI. It is not a secret that ISI had linked with Lal Masjid. PAKISTAN IS A TERRORIST STATE.
RE:hey guys dont u think whats happening in Pak is good..
by David Johnson on Jul 18, 2007 05:35 AM Permalink
Ok. Let's be happy with this. But what about the caste violence in India. Conflicts between the touchables and not-too-touchables.
RE:RE:hey guys dont u think whats happening in Pak is good..
by Pritish Nagaraj on Jul 18, 2007 05:40 AM Permalink
They are our internal issues, ... you are no one here... pls get your a55 out from here.
RE:hey guys dont u think whats happening in Pak is good..
by David Johnson on Jul 18, 2007 06:11 AM Permalink
But you like to speak about other's internal religious incidents.
RE:hey guys dont u think whats happening in Pak is good..
by True Indian on Jul 18, 2007 06:15 AM Permalink
YOU ARE PAKI MUSLIM IN DESGUISING AS DEVID. Pakistan can never live in Peace while spreading hatred in India. Muslims can never live with anyone without fighting. See what is happening in Iraq. Muslims kill Muslims. It is good for the world.
RE:hey guys dont u think whats happening in Pak is good..
by Gaurav Sharma on Jul 18, 2007 06:21 AM Permalink
i am pretty sure this guy david johnson is a paki..its none of ur business to speak about internal matters of india..go and save ur musharraf.
RE:Re: voilent Islam
by Mohmmed ahmed on Jul 18, 2007 05:01 AM Permalink
for your kind information that anti islam sites hosted by Jews & anti islam elements.Bull shit to your Knowdledge if you have Guts say this infront of any muslim see what he will answer you
RE:RE:RE:RE:Re: voilent Islam
by David Johnson on Jul 18, 2007 05:13 AM Permalink
Shut up. There was no order. It was to cement an alliance with Abu Bakr. Ayesha was 9 years old , which is not unusual in those times. It is said that she continued with her childhood long after marriage.
RE:Re: voilent Islam
by David Johnson on Jul 18, 2007 05:11 AM Permalink
Abu Bakr was not his brother. That's why I say, meanings get lost in translations. Brother here means fellow Muslim !! Rest are faulty translations.
RE:Re: voilent Islam
by True Indian on Jul 18, 2007 05:09 AM Permalink
You are right, Darupdi was shared by 5 brothers. But Hindu religion does not tell to follow them. Muslims follow Mohammad blindly. They do not respect other religion. Thats is the problem
RE:Re: voilent Islam
by Sarath Chandra on Jul 18, 2007 05:16 AM Permalink
I think that's the crux of the problem with Islam. Hindu philosophy is so diverse and dynamic, that it keeps evolving with times. Caste system, sati etc were bad practices attributed to hinduism. But majority of hindus don't support them. At worst (or best), they say it was misunderstood or hinduism doesn't preach it. But they are fairly unanimous that things like sati and caste based discrimination are bad.
Islam starts with Muhammad and Quran was right (whatever they did) without any justification and try to keep justifying every act Muammad did and try to keep following them.
RE:RE:Re: voilent Islam
by David Johnson on Jul 18, 2007 05:22 AM Permalink
Religion of the BOOKS are Religion of the books. They are not supposed to be modified with evry print editions.
Islam, Christianity, Judaism all have beliefs which are well written for posterity. Any Tom,Dick or Harry can't just come up and change holy scriptures.
RE:RE:RE:Re: voilent Islam
by David Johnson on Jul 18, 2007 05:26 AM Permalink
Hey. There was a problem with paganism. That's why society evolved into so many religions - Judaism, Christianity, Islam. I don't know what were the reason , but yoyu can understand that mankind , GAVE UP ON PAGANISM 3000 years back !!
RE:Re: voilent Islam
by Sarath Chandra on Jul 18, 2007 05:27 AM Permalink
I don't think they are holy scriptures, mate. I think society evolves and rules have to change with times. The west developed only after the church was separated from the state. Islam failed to do so, and that makes Islam a danger to every other faith.
RE:RE:Re: voilent Islam
by David Johnson on Jul 18, 2007 05:05 AM Permalink
Kamasutra = Holy book of sex Lingam and Yoni worship. Sri Krishna's unlimited desires. Sex sex sex... Sometimes I wish I was a Hindu.
RE:RE:RE:Re: voilent Islam
by on Jul 18, 2007 05:11 AM Permalink
This workd is nothing, think about after life. We will enjoy after life, while you will burn in hell.
RE:What does Islam means
by True Indian on Jul 18, 2007 05:06 AM Permalink
It seems you are MUSLIM. GO and read Quran and marry your 9 year old daughter to 53 year old guy. Commit suside and go to JANNAT (heaven), your mohamaad will give you HOORS (virgins) there.
