RE:Rediff's support to muslim terrorism
by Ranjeet Gupta on Jul 17, 2007 06:43 PM Permalink
And would award them a chance to explode somewhere in India :) and then they would be acquitted after 10 years of trail .. hehe
RE:Rediff's support to muslim terrorism
by P Raghavan on Jul 17, 2007 06:42 PM Permalink
This will continue till India gets declared as a terrorist country. That day is not far away. Then we can atleast see Manmohan's and saint Sonia's asses being whipped!!!
RE:Rediff's support to muslim terrorism
by Sedan on Jul 17, 2007 06:44 PM Permalink
WHy do we need a discussion. We should be ashamed of those two. But also we should try and find out what took them to do what they did. If you keep blaming whole communities as terrorists it does not help anybody
it is very disheartning that "rediff.com", one of the most read websites in india, has become a host for such unwanted discussions which end up in one religious community blaming other. I wish and request the moderator to be more responsible. We already have enough communal tensions and we dont need one more website substantiating this "effort". If you can, please encourage discussions regarding "One India" and "India United" and make sure that even these do not end up with the same fate as the remaining.
RE:Hindu wife burners and christian creeps hatemongering here
by Sreeja S on Jul 17, 2007 06:44 PM Permalink
If u r telling that u r faultless in each and every case, u have mentioned ..then i will tell all the people should start converting to islam ...but according to me a person can never become a true muslim or devotee in any religion by telling others wrong in everything. u need to know a human not a community .
RE:Hindu wife burners and christian creeps hatemongering here
by ravi kumar on Jul 17, 2007 06:50 PM Permalink
muslims have been worst killers of the history they have killed more than 50 million hindus in total according to a very conservative estimate. and muslims should not feel bad about the facts. in 1500 characters i cannot give you the whole data and references. The wife burning and child foeticide are the work of coward people, it was not institutionalised ever in hinduism. As long as you talk of satipratha, it was a result of muslim marauders who used to mass rape the population after every win. Since you are living in an india which appeases muslims and accepts and appeases muslims point of view because of hindu baiting congress and communists that you never read or taught original view of hindus. And mind it social problem and religious problems are two different thing. Just if you dont be emotional over everything and try to have an open mind and think in an unbiased way you will be able to see the light. abusing anybody is really simple but abuser are the final looser.
RE:RE:Hindu wife burners and christian creeps hatemongering here
by Nayeem M on Jul 17, 2007 07:21 PM Permalink
Ravi Kumar, u start with a statement "Muslims have been worst killers of the history" and also giving some figures and estimates from the "Ravi Kumar institute of statistics and consensus" (hehehe), turning over flaws like Sati, Burning and stuff on to Muslims, and another stance "social problem and religious problems are two different thing" and advising others not to be emotional !! Lolz, Ravi, u have some emotional and split personality issues to deal with mate !! And finally ending ur statement about abusing, let me take u back to the first word of ur posting to the last, u have been blaming another community without any knowledge, and it is a kind of abuse, Grow up (though wonder if u could).
RE:Throw them
by anant gupta on Jul 17, 2007 06:42 PM Permalink
The Vice-President candiddate of the third front, UNPA, Masood has refused to sing VAnde Mataram.
Ab kya karoge?
Very soon, 'these people' will say that they refuse to accept Indian constitution, only sharia.
what kafeel has done is wrong and all muslims can't be blamed for it. He can't be a true muslim. Just some muslim name will not make him a muslim. "Whoever kills a person [unjustly]%u2026it is as though he has killed all mankind. And whoever saves a life, it is as though he had saved all mankind." (Qur%u2019an, 5:32)
RE:what kafeel did his wrong
by Sedan on Jul 17, 2007 06:40 PM Permalink
Syed,
Of course you are right. No religion gives saction to murder. Those who are talking against Islam are being unfair and ignorant. It is probably both fear and hate. But you can't blame them either as we are all mere human beings and we react the way we react. Today we need to be patient. otherwise more of our brothers will kill themselves and others. We do not need it. We need peace and the ability to live togerther in harmony. there is joy and happiness in that. We are all GOD's creation.
RE:what kafeel did his wrong
by Prem Mohan on Jul 17, 2007 07:06 PM Permalink
Here is what the Quran says: that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind.) The Ayah states, whoever kills a soul without justification -- such as in retaliation for murder or for causing mischief on earth -- will be as if he has killed all mankind, because there is no difference between one life and another"
On the face of it, it is very noble. However, the definition of "mischief on earth" is the crux. Shirk (polytheism) is also considered to be "mischief on earth".
If u r so concerned about britan and america then what were u doing (& still doing )when bush and blair invaded Iraq and afganisthan? They r responsible for all these. They got a right to kill innocents? and even after killing thousands they r not called terrorst..? what a educated persons view..OF COURSE KILLING OF INNOCENTS BY SO CALLED KAFEEL OR ANY ONE IS NOT AT ALL JUSTIFIED..but blameing MUSLIMS is not justifed at all..after bush and blair's act there will be more of this kind of risks, as lot of innocent families got destroyed in iraq and afganistan for no fault of their..I hope some one invade amrica and britan and give the same treatment what they r giving to innocent citizens of these countires..Than we will see so called demorcartic peoples response..One day it is going to happen if not by outsiders than surely by amrican themselves will do (THE CREATAR OF THIS UNIVERSE / BRHAMA / ALAM IS ALL WISE AND WILL NOT DO INJUSTICE) what they r doing now to innocent humans..ONE HAS TO EAT THE FRUITS OF THE TREE WHOSE SEEDS ONE SOWES..
RE:SURPRISED TO SEE EDUCATED PEOPLES VIEW..
by Girish on Jul 17, 2007 06:38 PM Permalink
Your point is "Jihad started after Bush and Blair came to power". You think that is the justification. And you consider yourself fit to judge educated Indians. You think the onus of peace is mostly on non-Muslims and always on Hindus.
RE:SURPRISED TO SEE EDUCATED PEOPLES VIEW..
by sudhakar jayaseelan on Jul 17, 2007 06:59 PM Permalink
what is jihad..? fighting for God .. is God need to be protected by jihadis..shame..
RE:RE:SURPRISED TO SEE EDUCATED PEOPLES VIEW..
by Human Indian on Jul 17, 2007 06:47 PM Permalink
u read IT clearly i said killing of innocents by kafeel or any body is not at all JUstified..open u r eyes..
RE:SURPRISED TO SEE EDUCATED PEOPLES VIEW..
by vinamra singhai on Jul 17, 2007 06:41 PM Permalink
lets start from the beginning..so it was the Mohammed who started it..so let him declared by the muslims that he was a terrorist and others became just to defend it....r u accepting Human Indian ...
RE:RE:SURPRISED TO SEE EDUCATED PEOPLES VIEW..
by Nayeem M on Jul 17, 2007 07:02 PM Permalink
Hehehe Vinamra, People like u pick up a word or two from here and there, having no idea what u r talking, come to forums like this and make statements. U need to do some home work to have some knowledge about it.
RE:RE:RE:SURPRISED TO SEE EDUCATED PEOPLES VIEW..
by vinamra singhai on Jul 17, 2007 07:43 PM Permalink
so give me homework.....the reality is that it is you who have not done the homework..
"need to do some home work to have some knowledge about it." -- so how you know abt my knowledge...
RE:SURPRISED TO SEE EDUCATED PEOPLES VIEW..
by vinamra singhai on Jul 17, 2007 07:41 PM Permalink
I am not a Hindu but I can tell you that in MAHABHARTA the war was not in the name of religion ...
RE:SURPRISED TO SEE EDUCATED PEOPLES VIEW..
by Mohammed Sikander on Jul 17, 2007 06:51 PM Permalink
It looks u have good knowledge about iraq and afgan. Can u tell the reason why America entered afganistan? To catch Bin Laden. If Laden has left afghan and hiding in porkistan (as per your record) why is America still in Afghan. They entered Iraq saying Iraq is preparing nuclear weapons but could not find any and finally charged Saddam for killing kurdish. Even though Saddam is dead what is america doing in Iraq.
Last point what kafeel did is not correct because it is a war of nations and not religions and he is an Indian not a afghani or iraqi
RE:RE:SURPRISED TO SEE EDUCATED PEOPLES VIEW..
by Human Indian on Jul 17, 2007 06:46 PM Permalink
DEAR THERE WAS NOT A SINGLE AFGANI OR IRAQI PERSON INVOLVED IN 9/11..all the people were recruited by bush to finish USSR.. and in a way they were trained and financed by cia..be educated..
RE:SURPRISED TO SEE EDUCATED PEOPLES VIEW..
by enjoylondonlife on Jul 17, 2007 06:54 PM Permalink
so where was bin laden when he attacked america and uk .. all the tapes through rubbish al jazeera?
RE:SURPRISED TO SEE EDUCATED PEOPLES VIEW..
by Prem Mohan on Jul 17, 2007 06:52 PM Permalink
There are many stupid conspiracy theories, but this one takes the cake. The twin towers were attacked in 2001, while the USSR collapes in 1989.
No Afghanis were involved in the 9/11 attacks, but the Taliban gave shelter to Osama bin Laden. They still continue to do so.
RE:SURPRISED TO SEE EDUCATED PEOPLES VIEW..
by hiral joshi on Jul 17, 2007 06:34 PM Permalink
But what Indian muslims have to do with that? Why Indian muslims show more sympathy towards muslims of other countries than the Hindus of their own country? Is there any cure for this type of mentality?
RE:SURPRISED TO SEE EDUCATED PEOPLES VIEW..
by Nayeem M on Jul 17, 2007 06:53 PM Permalink
Well Hiral Joshi, if u ask what indian muslims have got to do with that and why they feel sympathetic towards muslims of other countries, then i would like to ask U, WHY R U SYMPATHETIC TOWARDS US and UK, somewhere something happens and ur blood starts to boil, why ?? coz its not ur relegion which is Fanatic but U R , as no relegion teaches cruelity (in fact this applies if u know and have read about other relegions though). So, Do not let ur blood boil when muslims of india feel sympathetic towards other muslim nations, there is a need of comprehension in every aspect what u say, think and write.
RE:SURPRISED TO SEE EDUCATED PEOPLES VIEW..
by Sanjeev Sharma on Jul 17, 2007 06:52 PM Permalink
unfortunately the actions of some people have contributed to this evolving world view. It is a simple cause and effect relationship. And there is no shortage of proof for this relationship. Everyday people get killed for all sort of reason like being non-muslims and despite being muslims as in Iraq. The common factor is that killers always do it in the name of their religion just like Hitlar was dispatching jews to concentration camps in the name of national sociallism.
RE:RE:SURPRISED TO SEE EDUCATED PEOPLES VIEW..
by Prem Mohan on Jul 17, 2007 06:54 PM Permalink
In that case, Islam needs to be studied as an ideology.
RE:SURPRISED TO SEE EDUCATED PEOPLES VIEW..
by on Jul 17, 2007 06:38 PM Permalink
Boss why are you worried about Iraq and Afgan. In India itself millions of muslims are poor,people like kafeel with rich background should help our muslim brothers.Not go and kill for some other country men.Otherwise they should give me the citizenship of india. Then go to Pak and do all these things
RE:RE:SURPRISED TO SEE EDUCATED PEOPLES VIEW..
by Human Indian on Jul 17, 2007 06:52 PM Permalink
dear ISLAM DOESNT PERMIT THIS DIVISION BY SELFISH HUMANS.. SO TOMORRW U WERE BE FIGHTING FOR U COLONEY ONLY ..GOD HAS CREATED UNIVERSE / BRHAMA AND NOT ONLY INDIA OR PAKISTAN..AND I AM NOT SUPPORTING KILLING OF INNOCENTS BY ANY ONE. BE IT IS MUSLIM OR ANY ONE ESLE..
