these are mere speculations.. read it again.. speculations can't be produced as evidence in court.. i surf the net 12 hrs a day.. i goto utube and liveleak.com.. whats the fault in that.. thats reality.. and we should see that.. it is a democracy isnt it? if he surfed the net 12 hrs.. he cant be called a criminal! if thats so, we are all in some percentages criminals!
RE:Mere speculations..
by Sanjeev Sharma on Jul 17, 2007 08:14 PM Permalink
some cicurmstantial evidence is too strong, like a trout in a glass of milk or an educated 'peacemaker' spending days and nights of websites exhorting terrorism and teaching how to make bombs.
RE:Mere speculations..
by Mohan lal on Jul 17, 2007 08:17 PM Permalink
It is not the 12 hrs or 24 hrs surfing that is viewed seriously here, it the site which are visited often should be considered.Democracy is for using one's right judiciously without hurting others. lal
RE:Mere speculations..
by Great Opportunity on Jul 17, 2007 08:40 PM Permalink
You have a point. people are reacting to mere speculations. Why can't people think a well planned terrorist will do something as silly as what kafeel has done? with a burning jeep do they think he will hit a boeing? seems like not all that's appearing is true. look at haneef? if he is a terrorist, why australian judge bailed him out? it all looks like media hype. -rajender
RE:RE:Mere speculations..
by jay krishnan on Jul 17, 2007 10:23 PM Permalink
you have a point here. I agree that the westerners could not be trusted completely.
RE:Mere speculations..
by uday mahindrakar on Jul 17, 2007 08:14 PM Permalink
To Mazammil Are you in sane? Police do not have any problem in any one browsing even 24hrs, he is criminal coz he has surfed Jihadi sites, bomb technology so obviuosly browsing these sites and learning things is a crime and u know what happened in Glasgow as outcome of these kind of browsing, Do you still believe as what u have done is right? if so then i think even ur a criminal. watch this viedo what muslim's top leaders says, these r the best examples as how to brainwash. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peFQWuk4nuo
RE:Mere speculations..
by Subodh Srivastava on Jul 17, 2007 08:19 PM Permalink
Are u insane...even i surf internet and go to all sort of sites...but in ur quest to defend this person, you forgot that he is same person who tried to kill a lot of innocent people by ramming that car full of explosives and sharpnels...he didn't even thought of his own parents while he planned all this...we cant call it that he got emotionally carried away as it was a well planned (months in advance) effort, he instructed his parents to take care of this Hard disk b4 he left India and he very much knew wat he was doing...if a mind which could be so easily moulded that it can be prepared to take lives of innocent people, not caring about his own life, leave alone thinking about the consequences of such an act to his parents and family, if such a mind cannot be called criminal, then who else wud be...even you are being criminal by supporting such a person...how could you think that way..only because he belongs to the same religion...huh...guess guys with the kind of thinking as urs can never been won over by love and respect...they need some other treatment rightly given to them by other countries...u r in India...i dare you to get settled in Pakistan or elsewhere...
RE:Mere speculations..
by Macguffin on Jul 17, 2007 08:15 PM Permalink
Just like Dr. Praveen Togadia, ahem, a doctor. And a hatemonger for the knickerwalas
RE:wish we could save youth from this disators
by Sanjeev Sharma on Jul 17, 2007 08:11 PM Permalink
i.e. Gandhian method of sheep preaching vegetaianism to wolves !
It does not work when wolves are hungry and capable unlike the war weary British who gave up India.
RE:wish we could save youth from this disators
by venkat on Jul 17, 2007 08:12 PM Permalink
Because allah promises 72 virgins and young boys to enjoy in Paradise.
Don't believe me: The motivating force is here -
The X-RATED PARADISE OF ISLAM
www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/heaven.html
X RATED JANNAT (Paradise) of ISLAM www.danielpipes.org/comments/46343
RE:RE:wish we could save youth from this disators
by Vasim Modak on Jul 17, 2007 08:43 PM Permalink
Dear Venkat Islam is not the only religion where It is promised to the one who dies in the field of Struggling in the oath of Allah about wellbeing and goodies in the Heaven First try to understand that Jehad does not mean any war faught by any Muslim It simply only means to strive and to struggle. As far as striving and struggling is concerned you too my friend am sure you too are striving and struggling ...Thus in Arabic language you are doing Jehad...Everyone is doing some sort of Jehad this way ...either to earn money or to keep his family comfortable ...The Best jehad according to Islam is to be Patient and trying to mend one's own consceince. As far as getting 72 virgins or for that matter any good things in the Heavens is concerned, This was promised to Arjun by Krishna in the Mahabharta in the section of Bhagwad gita...when Arjun tells Krishna that he wants to die unarmed rather than fight his own cousins...The Krishna tells Arjun that ...How can such IMPOTENT thoughts come to your mind.You have to follow your Kshatriya Dharma and fight and that anyone who dies on the Battlefield shall get the goodies in Heaven and if you win then you will get the good things in this life on earth too....Please read your own Mahabharata/Bhagwad Gita to verify AND STOP making such comments
RE:wish we could save youth from this disators
by Vasim Modak on Jul 17, 2007 08:25 PM Permalink
Dear friend by calling Prophet Muhammad names yo are spreading hatred...no problems but at the same time do you know that you are refuting and denying the fact that is mentioned in your own book ie the Bible...Check out whats given in the Bible which I hope you consider to be a book from God himself.See for yourself the verses of the Bible.
I]IN THE BOOK OF DEUTERONOMY:
Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse 18:
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."
Chapter 18:19 "And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not harken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him."
II]Book of ISAIAH chapter 29 verse 12:
"And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned."
When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by saying Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am not learned"
III]Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is mentioned by name in the Song of Solomon chapter 5 verse 16:
"Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem."
RE:RE:wish we could save youth from this disators
by Vasim Modak on Jul 17, 2007 08:32 PM Permalink
Further Mr Sam if you read the new Testament go and read the following verses 1.JohnCh14V16:"And I will pray the Father&he shall give you another Comforter,that he may abide with you forever"
2.Gospel of JohnCh15V26:"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father,even the Spirit of truth,which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me"
3.Gospel of JohnCh16V7:"Nevertheless I tell you the truth;it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away,the Comforter will not come unto you;but if I depart,I will send him unto you"
"Ahmed"or"Muhammad"meaning"the one who praises" or'the praised one' is almost the translation of the Greek word Periclytos.In the Gospel of John14:16,15:26&16:7.The word 'Comforter' is used in the English translation for the Greek word Paracletos which means advocate or a kind friend rather than a comforter.
Paracletos is the warped reading for Periclytos. Jesus(pbuh) actually prophesised Ahmed by name. Even the Greek word Paraclete refers to the Prophet(pbuh) who is a mercy for all creatures.
4.Gospel of John ch16v12-14:"I have yet many things to say unto you,but ye cannot bear them now.Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is come,he will guide you unto all truth:for he shall not speak of himself;but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak:& he will show you things to come.He shall glorify me"
The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in this prophecy referes to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
RE:How can one trust MUSLIMS now??
by Sanjeev Sharma on Jul 17, 2007 08:07 PM Permalink
there is one major problem with credibility :
it is called Al-Taquiya :
Taquiya: The art of lying to non-muslims by telling them they are a religion of "Piece." Clearly the US Government and the American people, believe they mean "Peace." (What is not told is that Peace happens to be Peace of Graveyard.)
RE:How can one trust MUSLIMS now??
by Asrar Alam on Jul 17, 2007 08:10 PM Permalink
hey man the worst thing u have done 2 muslims is not trusting them since 60 long years and branding them pakistani and traitors which has created a permanent hatred in their hearts for u. may b that is coming in the form of backlash everywhere. now u r talking 2 annihilate them. tell me seriously can u? first u introspect urself then i hope everything will b fine.
RE:RE:RE:How can one trust MUSLIMS now??
by Asrar Alam on Jul 17, 2007 08:27 PM Permalink
well again talking abt annihilation? what will u call that mentality?
RE:RE:RE:How can one trust MUSLIMS now??
by Asrar Alam on Jul 17, 2007 08:20 PM Permalink
hell with PAKISTAN and PAKISTANI. INDIA is our land. actually u abuse MUSLIMS in the name of PAKISTAN and eventually it becomes a communal match instead of national. avoid it see the difference. tell me if u offer hate how can u get love in return?
RE:RE:How can one trust MUSLIMS now??
by Asrar Alam on Jul 17, 2007 08:26 PM Permalink
look it's again like imposing something. u know that muslims can not worship anyone other than a sigle GOD. so u r asking them to sing something which is against that. isn't it? tell me what it has 2 do with patriotism. believe me a mean what is say.
RE:How can one trust MUSLIMS now??
by India Fan on Jul 17, 2007 08:35 PM Permalink
Then get lost to your parent country Saudi Arabia.Why are you wasting your anywhere else. What a shame religion comes higher than the country, no one can expect even an ounce of patriotism from your rotten bunch.
RE:RE:How can one trust MUSLIMS now??
by Asrar Alam on Jul 17, 2007 08:17 PM Permalink
let me tell u one more thing. nobody can b brainwashed so easily. can u b? obviously no. the problem with u is u don't want 2 address the problem. right? if u really respect and trust muslims how can they hate u? give us ur hand of friendship instead of suspiscion (which u have NO RIGHT to do) u will find us ur friend and MORE PATRIOTIC than YOU. our every drop of blood is 4 the COUNTRY and HUMANITY.
RE:RE:How can one trust MUSLIMS now??
by Asrar Alam on Jul 17, 2007 10:09 PM Permalink
yehi sikhata hai kya tumhara religion? talking like this? if i m talking in a mannered way, i expect the same. ok?
RE:RE:How can one trust MUSLIMS now??
by Asrar Alam on Jul 17, 2007 09:47 PM Permalink
Thanx for considering some points. But let me tell me the Mulla whom you are talking about may be illiterate or you may have misinterpreted the words he say. If you really want to know about our religion go through its books and plz don't abuse without deep study, or merely based on what you have been hearing. Tell me how can the people from Hindu religion know so much about Islam, when even we the Muslims don't know so much. Listen, whatever conflict is going on that is NOT religious. It is more social and psychologic. How the people can relate religion and nationality? It's their notion and they MUST keep it wity THEM. Don't distribute it. We won't accept it, loud and clear. Right? And INDIA is OUR country. We are NOT GOING anywhwere. We will live and die here, whether you like us or not.
RE:How can one trust MUSLIMS now??
by Krishna on Jul 17, 2007 08:28 PM Permalink
Hi I don't about netizens of Muslims/Hindus but I belong to Rajasthan (Shekhawati region) which has largest count of soliders in Indian Army (35000 from single district). I was studying in BITS Pilani and travelling to college when I came across a bunch of soilders coming from Kashmir to their home. Few were muslims, one was aged around 40 and his nepher aged around 22. He was telling a story of his own. His group attacked militants hiding in a small mosque(2-3 rooms) in a remote village, there were Hindu/Muslim solilders who surrounding that mosque and asking those so called real Muslims who carry weapons with boots to mosque to come out. They were firing indiscriminately from inside. A hindu solider got hit from bullet in stomach and bleeding but still he is not throwing grenade in his belt to that mosque(which will destroy that 2 room place along with militants without any effort) since he respects that and knows it hurts sentiments of somone.. That muslim soilder said a general question.. Shud I asked that @#$#@$# a jehadi soilder who hides in mosque with boots/arms/girls raped inside their hideout or should he call that hindu soilder a true muslim who has much more respect to the place than those inside the mosque.. He left that question open and I still am unable to find answer to that..
I always feel be in BJP/congree/any party all are equally communcal. They divide us for votes. BJP wants hindu Congress wants Muslims SP wants muslims but nobody wants Indians..
RE:CHECK WHA ISLAM SAYS..AT:http://www.allaahuakbar.net/jew/index.htm
by vinamra singhai on Jul 17, 2007 08:26 PM Permalink
This video has been removed due to terms of use violation.
thats what I am getting....what man..did you try do something related to terror or what?....
