RE:Both, Hindu and Muslim extremists are lead by destructive mentality and should be condemned.
by Minu Mukherjee on Jul 13, 2007 11:48 AM Permalink
You are a Communist idiot who can do anything even pampering Jihadis for Muslim Vote!
RE:Both, Hindu and Muslim extremists are lead by destructive mentality and should be condemned.
by Indian Hindu on Jul 13, 2007 03:59 PM Permalink
Who are Hindu extremists?
What leads them into destructive mentality?
You better watch out.... the next threat is maoist extremists in India... And Sahadevan sure falls into that category
RE:Both, Hindu and Muslim extremists are lead by destructive mentality and should be condemned.
by Sahadevan KK on Jul 14, 2007 12:25 PM Permalink
These the contractors of Hinduism.
Brutally killed Sohrabuddin and Kosar Bi after claiming terrorists.
Brutally killed Hindu people Prof. Sabbharwal and Tulsiram Prajapati in the name of Hindutva.
RE:Both, Hindu and Muslim extremists are lead by destructive mentality and should be condemned.
by SatyaMeva Jayate on Jul 14, 2007 01:08 PM Permalink
Sahadevan,
There is some thing called SCALE.
I don't condone killing of Sabbharwal etc., These are committed by a group of insane people with specific reasons to attain specific gains. And the killers will be punished by the court of law.
Don't you think it is ridiculous to compare killing of these individuals with MASS MURDER of innocent civilians?
What was the tangible gains attained by the fanatic islamic terrorists? Probably, they are waiting for the 72 virgins in the heaven.
RE:Both, Hindu and Muslim extremists are lead by destructive mentality and should be condemned.
by Indian Citizen on Jul 16, 2007 07:43 AM Permalink
Here's someone shedding tears for the death of a gangster bravo!!
RE:Both, Hindu and Muslim extremists are lead by destructive mentality and should be condemned.
by achal mehta on Jul 15, 2007 11:10 AM Permalink
Sahadevan,
Can u compare killing of Dr. Sabharwal to mass cleansing of 2.5 million hindus from bangladesh.
Visit this website to know more...www.hinduhumanrights.org/Bangladesh/IndexBangladesh.html - 8k -....
hopefully u will understand the difference...If we dont stand up now...this will one day become the fate of Hindus and India
Jehadis firmly believe that: 1. Allah does not like Kaffirs (non muslims). 2. Allah wants islamic people to murder the non muslims. 3. Murdering unarmed civilians by bombs is permitted by allah 4. Those who murder non-muslims will get 72 virgins in heaven.
Muslim clergy must counteract this venom else we will believe that they are involved in getting non.muslims murdered.
Michael Morgan, a former journalist and US diplomat by kanakadurga murali on Jul 12, 2007 10:13 PM | Hide replies
Riz talks to Michael Morgan, a former journalist and US diplomat who has just published, Lost History: The Enduring Legacy of Muslim Scientists, Thinkers, and Artists.
The author studies how early Muslim advancements in science and culture lay the cornerstones of the European Renaissance, the Enlightenment, and modern Western society - without neglecting the ancient resentments that fuel today's bitter conflicts
RE:Michael Morgan, a former journalist and US diplomat
by jay krishnan on Jul 16, 2007 03:13 AM Permalink
who the hell is Michael morgan ? and what the hell does he know about the cornerstone of modern western society ? Doesn't he see the obvious truth that all knowledge that ancient greeks, romans and other europeans picked up from Arab Muslims are invariably mostly of Hindu origins and a few of Persian Origins ? Or he simply doesn't want to acknowledge the fact that the CORNER STONE OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION IS THE GIFT OF THE "LOWLY" AND DARK SKINNED HINDU ? You believe what that clown is saying that the advancement in science and culture that lay the foundation of modern western knowledge base is of muslim origin you fool ? You are truly a despicable product of the colonial legacy. You slave of the slavish legacy of the white man's boot. I am sure you are filthy muslim fundamentalist masquerading as a Hindu. Either that or you are spineless appeaser of Muslims owing to the legendary selfishness that runs in your blood perhaps ? If so I say do me a favour and please get converted out of Hindu religion. The fewer of filthy honourless and foreign ass kissing vermin we have in our religion the better it is for the future of the Hindu religion. We don't need more western slaves. Infact we have an excess supply of these as it is.
Its high time that we seriously think and do something with this. Every year we have some important days to mourn the deaths of the innocent people who are killed by the islamic terrorists. If these incidents are not capped at the earliest, we sould end up mourning such incidents every day through out the world.
Daniel, you have made the best use of this mode. No other way to really release "pressure cooker" then to just go and express in words. Words really are mightier than sword.
I agree that we must remember the victims ,innocents who lost wonderful life in these attacks .On the other hand we have to see ,if Mumbai stops on some particular day,does it make any difference ,I will say ACTUALLY NOT. Mumbai,or India or we beat the terrorosts only if we make them feel that their attacks were a WASTE...Utter WASTE...Two ways to do it ...1. Move on...as they say Mumbai spirit..I love it ,show them ,they suicided but we are not bothered ,really NOT .2 . Let's do our best in whatever ways we can make the life of sufferers more comfortable,via various aids one can provide ,Financial,Medical,Moral,Education or anything of that sort ! Those who lost life ,we can not bring them back but those who are suffering still on earth surely there are ways to say "I am with YOU ..Don't worry " On the other hand it can be an educational day for a normal citizen ,to learn how to be vigilent against such possibilities in future,a day for administartion to gear up and review it's arrangements and best of it will be to bring culprits under the court of justice and make them pay for crimes !! My homage to all the Lovely lifes who are no more and may their families get strenght to fight in Mumbai Life !! :)
RE:Move ON Mumbai,beat the heat !!
by Indian Hindu on Jul 13, 2007 04:01 PM Permalink
Hi,
I agree with "going on with life", but the statement "we're not bothered" is what makes the terrorists strike again and again...
We should have a day where the victims are given a chance to stone to death the terrorists who are languishing in jails...
That way, we can show how we 'care' for terrorists, and send a message to a terrorist religion, how we can 'adopt' their ways to counter their damn religion
At the end of the day we all discuss, argue and come to the conclusion that a particular religion if prone to terrorism and suggest many drastic actions, punishments etc. towards that religion. However, It is also not completely right to say that one should totally ignore religion or God and that God is fictitious created by mankind. For every human being there should be a principle in life and path to succeed as a human being and there has to be a guide to teach us the lessons of life to reach the ultimate goal. Just how the educational institutions teach us to literacy of science, the same way the religion teaches us how to live like a human with many principals which teaches love, affection, sympathy, unity, faith, confidence, integrity and above all humanity.
However, in the name of religion, the so called religious leaders (irrespective of religion) are corrupting the minds of people for selfish advantages and the politicians are taking mileage out of it for political gains..
In my humble opinion, a fruitful solution to minimize terrorism and hatred towards other religions would be, for all the religious leaders/heads of patasalas, temples, mosques, churches, gurudwaras etc. to wake up and preach and teach the true meaning of religion from the lessons of Srimat Bhagavat Gita, Holi Quran and Holy Bible and spread love, affection and respect to each other. continued...
RE:solution to terrorism
by brahman on Jul 12, 2007 03:03 PM Permalink
continued from above.. No political parties, government, or guns can control terrorism unless we change the mindset of people who believe the religious leaders as the representatives of God.
In India particularly, there is a blind faith in religion and God without analyzing and practically thinking as to what those religious epics and books conveys/teaches us. Some of the so called Religious leaders are the extreme enemies to mankind and are dreaded terrorists whom should be identified irrespective of religion and exposed... once the big fish is in the net, others would follow suit.
RE:RE:solution to terrorism
by buddala narayan on Jul 12, 2007 05:18 PM Permalink
No one can change terrorism except the muslim community.. i believe the solution lies in ISalm itself. only the interpretation is different....The interpretation should be made as per present day..not the day when koran was written.....then things may change. All muslims are not same mentality..their silence gives an impression that they are justifing the terrorism......the community should take responsibility.. and act.
RE:solution to terrorism
by Khaja Mohideen S on Jul 12, 2007 05:55 PM Permalink
It doesn't mean that people are mere dump or the religious cleriks does not guide them properly. How many of u know that there is a fatwa against bin laden that he is not a Muslim. It was given by the UP based cleric. How many of u know The kafeel & his brother threatned the cleric of a near by mosque for not allowing & accepting there principles.
The fact is these news does not get limelight as the media cannot make more money on this. Only sensational news is needed.
RE:solution to terrorism
by Joy Vyloppully on Jul 12, 2007 10:12 PM Permalink
shaik shahi hussain, You'll just can't accept responsibility...can't you?
I can accept the responsibility that what those fools have done is wrong. But does that mean that whole IDEOLOGY of ISLAM is wrong?? Do you have any idea about ISLAM that you comment on it?
Be sensible enough to understand that you cannot punish everyone for one's mistake. Blacksheeps are in every community. If Babri masjid was demolished by Hindus and If hindus ran across the whole country with Anti-sikh movement in 1984 killing scros of sikhs for no mistake of theirs, do you think the entire world said Hindus are the culprits of killing innocent people?? Or did you accept the responsibility of doing such henious crime?? or did anyone say HINDUS need to checkback? I guess NO. Its our duty to make them realize of what they are doing is wrong. We educated should act more matured and warne the uneducated people who fall under such devillious hand and the distortion they would end up bringing to the country. If we keep blaming each other, terrorists and politicians will keep explioting us. The clerics have the responsibility to educate people about peace and harmony. No violence can ever bring harmony and if you keep hatred againt every muslims because of few blacksheeps, you will never be the cause for harmony. Broaden you think Sir.
By the way, I am a mumbaikar and was just about to enter the Mahim station a year back when the bombs exploded. I had taken 4 people in a taxi to the local hospital. I don't know where you stay and what good you have done to the nation so far. I don't have to prove people like you about the patritism I have for my country, as you do not deserve that. My dad was in army and was serving in J&k for the nation during the kargil war.
How many of the non-muslim officers in Army and police have taken bribe and provided the secret documents to Pakis. Non muslims officers doing psudo-encounters in J&K for medals. Don't you think you should take the responsibility of all the NON-MUSLIMS then??
I accept the responsibility of the Muslims and their wrong deed and tell you what they did was inhuman and unislamic, but are you ready to accept this responsibility that most of the non muslims in the country are corrupt. What anger you have to went on them??
You are to the point.I appreciate what you said. However are muslims the ONLY cause for terrorism?? if the guys are going from India to Pakistan and get trained for all bad deeds..there are not only muslims involved..not all the passport authorities, travel authorities muslims.Howcome this happen then.
Twin tower bombing in US became a US conspirocy finally(check google for more details)and US has majority Christians and the people accused or US conspirosy are not MUSLIMS. so not only ISLAM but all religion shud look back and think what needs to be done.
RE:solution to terrorism
by ratnesh srivastav on Jul 12, 2007 07:18 PM Permalink
Allah will kill all kafirs by bomb blasts in trains............ and will give 72 virgins for the islamic jehadis........
Your point is well taken: lot of innocent people lost their lives and we need to remember it. But I would like to defer with some of the arguments you made:
1. You said that journalists are the one who stay with the victims outside the morges etc.. But tell me frankly, do the journalists do it just because they are concerned about the victims or because it ensures them a pay-check. Also the same journalists crowd the corporate hospitals if a celebrity or a politician is hospitalized. They just want to report sensational news and if there isn't any just create and then report.
2. Remembering and paying homage is important but I am disappointed by your essay that it stops at that point. All the newspapers and media want to just point out at the mistakes. Is there any serious writing on trying to discuss what the actual problems are? What are their causes? Is there any solution to this? Even if its a slow processing, are you starting even a small thread of thoughts in the minds of the people which might make them see the reality? I doubt.
3. Why is it remembering so important if it doesn't lead to any solution? Is it important just because the TV news channel will get content to transmit for next 2 days, is it because the newspapers can crib about and play with the emotions of the people. What is the motivation? How is it helping to make the situation better?
4. If you are doing anything to solve the problem, how are you any different from an indifferent person?
RE:But....
by brahman on Jul 12, 2007 03:10 PM Permalink
dear on.... media is also a business like any other profit making business... they are not social service organisations.... and most of the media are controlled and run by different political parties...what more can you expect from them...
RE:RE:But....
by Vijay Raman on Jul 12, 2007 05:37 PM Permalink
We want that anyone belonging to any sector other than ours should be doing work as a dharam ka kaam . Please understand that we live in a largely captialistic society where everyone works for a pay check and institutions have a profit goal...also. Would you rather go back to socialistic set up.. and we have seen its failure in so many sectors ??
What needs to be happen is to strengthen norms and standards but that applies to trains/media/ doctors/astronauts and film actors.
and please the less said about most social service organizations the better. I would rather have a company working in a competitive market with a sharp eye on profits and the industry itself well regulated..would you agree ?
