Dear Ibrahim, You didn't get my point. I am not here to accuse Muslims or to say that all the muslims are doing these kind of things (most of them are peaceful people!). Similarly there are many good religeous schools who teach people the right way of practising the religion. I am pointing out only those schools (there should be many such schools which spread hatred and misinformation) which do this kind of radicalization. And, let us first see this as a problem. If we dont do that, I am afraid we are moving away from the root cause of it. Its being done in the 'name of Islam', and this can't be the 'Islam' practised by many sufi saints and Saibaba...So, these need to be isolated and corrective action has to be taken. First of all, scholors and politicians should understand the cause, leave alone taking corrective actions.
Friends, Just thought will share my feelings on the recent happenings... Basically, all political leaders (including PM),Islamic scholors and thinkers say that terrorism has no religion (if that is the case, how come this kind of thing is happening throughout the world?) and that there is a root cause etc..But then they forget that terrorist acts are in the name of the 'religion' and done by people who call themselves 'religeous'. They also get their relegeous preaching (not teaching!) from the madrassas around the country. Now, is it not the duty of the religeous scholors/imam's/mullahs to understand this, and eradicate this misinformation/radicalization of the youths, which happen in the name of 'religion preaching'? Instead, they just repeat the same old,'terrorist has no religion' kind of statements all the time. The need of the hour is for the religeous leadership to understand the problem within, and to take corrective actions. This IS the only solution to stop the radicalization of the so called religeous youths. The sooner its understood, the better for their own religion and to the whole world. Otherwise, it will only result in more disaster and eventual condemnation/isolation of the people belonging to the religion. Ours is a soft country but rest of the world will not react the way we do. Their leaders will not keep on saying that 'terrorism has no religion 'kind of things...They will understand and say what exactly is the cause of this, and will try to remove tha
RE:Terrorism - How to deal with this
by Ibrahim Sheik on Jul 12, 2007 12:45 PM Permalink
Dear Satheesh Kumar, You have made good assumptions on Madrassas, as Hatred Preaching Centers.. If you are ready with a Open Mind, come with me I will take you to a Madrassa. Spend all the Time you want to, Read all the Books and attend all the Religious Lectures... Stay as much as you can, It think then you will understand that what ever you are thinking is Wrong.... If you are really Open Minded come with Me, or if your Intention is just to Acuse Muslims, keep doing it for the Whole Life, Your acusing will not make any impact on Muslims
RE:Terrorism - How to deal with this
by Krishna Prasadh on Jul 12, 2007 01:48 PM Permalink
I agree with you Ibrahim...reg. the fact that many madrassas are quite good and nothing wrong is happening.. No doubt.. But at the same time there are some madrassas which involve in nonsense and make nuisance in the name of religion.. thats why this accusation.. Moreover this is a lesson to all.. pious muslims as well as scholars.. & if you say "Your acusing will not make any impact on Muslims" then.. it is a TRAGEDY.. I feel that these type of news SHOULD make an impact on Muslims.. so that it is time for them to stop terrorists hijacking in the name of religion...I feel that should be the approach..instead if there is no impact they will perish along with the fellow "jihadis"(so called)since they were not only deaf but also dumb..
RE:Terrorism - How to deal with this
by kartik on Jul 12, 2007 12:59 PM Permalink
What is the role of AK47 in madrassa or even in a masjid? What do they shout on friday namaz? What do you find in history books in pakistani schools leave alone madrassa? Have you seen the Indian maps in their history books? You are talking about madrassas in India. Some exceptional madrassas may be good but majority of them do so. What about the ones in the neighbourhood?
None of these are related to Islam it is only preaching hatred.
RE:Terrorism - How to deal with this
by Ibrahim Sheik on Jul 12, 2007 01:07 PM Permalink
1) Dear I am asking you not to generalize, I agree that there are a few culprits, but you should not blame all Madrassas... If you have doubt come with me, dont talk rubbish... See it with your Own eyes..
2) The so called shouting on Friday Prayers is in Urdu and generally in a Sound System, you can hear it from the street also... Just listen on what they are talking.... If you find anything absurd, then Shout.... Without knowing dont generalize....
3) I have attended many Madrassas through out the Country and also in the Middle East.. But I have never come across Hatred Preaching... If you wont beleive it that is fine, come with me and see it with your own eyes.... and ears ... and all senses... With Sensible Brain -- Of course...
RE:RE:Terrorism - How to deal with this
by kartik on Jul 12, 2007 01:11 PM Permalink
Yes, you are the most sensible brain living on the earth & rest are all insensible.
Friends, Just thought will share my feelings on the recent happenings... Basically, all political leaders (including PM),Islamic scholors and thinkers say that terrorism has no religion (if that is the case, how come this kind of thing is happening throughout the world?) and that there is a root cause etc..But then they forget that terrorist acts are in the name of the 'religion' and done by people who call themselves 'religeous'. They also get their relegeous preaching (not teaching!) from the madrassas around the country. Now, is it not the duty of the religeous scholors/imam's/mullahs to understand this, and eradicate this misinformation/radicalization of the youths, which happen in the name of 'religion preaching'? Instead, they just repeat the same old,'terrorist has no religion' kind of statements all the time. The need of the hour is for the religeous leadership to understand the problem within, and to take corrective actions. This IS the only solution to stop the radicalization of the so called religeous youths. The sooner its understood, the better for their own religion and to the whole world. Otherwise, it will only result in more disaster and eventual condemnation/isolation of the people belonging to the religion. Ours is a soft country but rest of the world will not react the way we do. Their leaders will not keep on saying that 'terrorism has no religion 'kind of things...They will understand and say what exactly is the cause of this, and will try to remove tha
RE:china PLA brutal suppression of muslims
by inkypinky on Jul 12, 2007 11:57 AM Permalink
CHINA CONDUCTS NUCLEAR TESING IN MUSLIM REGION
''the chinese have also brought nuclear weapons to our mother land causing environmental diasaster and killing thousands of people,'' said vakhidov in reference to the nuclear testing facility of lap-nor located in xinjiang.
RE:china PLA brutal suppression of muslims
by Krishna Prasadh on Jul 12, 2007 01:51 PM Permalink
How do you expect the chinese stooges.. like yechuri, karat would condemn???!!!!! these fellas are mere boot-lickers of china
A new poower balance is effusing out of Chinese forcing Pakistan to take action at Lal Masjid. If China is sincere in clearing terrorists, would it openely advise Maoists and Naxals not to indulge in terroristic activities? Govt of India may approach the Chinese Govt. on this issue. Om Shanti. RC YashRoy