It is proved that terrorists have no religion. See what is happening in Pakistan? This country has been fomenting terrorism and now they are paying its cost. Terrorism can be contained, if a resolution is passed in the UN congress to take over Pakistan from Musharaf (you might laugh at me).
RE:Lal Masjid boys' madrassa captured
by kraft on Jul 07, 2007 01:30 PM Permalink
Terrorists may not have any Religion [Politically Right Statement] but one Religion appears to be an Inspiration for 99% of the Terrorists![The later statement is 100% the TRUTH but Politically wrong for VOTEBANK Politics!
RE:Lal Masjid boys' madrassa captured
by RAJMOHAN NAIR on Jul 07, 2007 01:36 PM Permalink
I read somewhere that ALL MUSLIMS ARE NOT TERRORISTS, BUT ALL TERRORISTS ARE MUSLIMS.
RE:Lal Masjid boys' madrassa captured
by Aris on Jul 07, 2007 01:59 PM Permalink
Prabhakaran & barua also converted to Islam recently & fughting to make greater Tamil Islamic State & Assam Islamic state
RE:Lal Masjid boys' madrassa captured
by Aris on Jul 07, 2007 01:33 PM Permalink
definetlty if you trust UN that is run by some countries for thier own interrest. Remember attack on Iraq is against the will of UN
India should also take actions to evict anti socials coming from Bangaldesh and taking shelter in Madarasas in border area of West Bengal. Butif the government try do this we can see lots of politicians coming forward to term it as atrocity on minorities and dirty game of politics will start. If attack on madrasas can happen in Pakistan then why cannot it happen in India.
RE:The same not possible in India
by kraft on Jul 07, 2007 01:37 PM Permalink
If the Congress and Communists do that what will happen to their Votebanks? On the contrary they want to encourage immigration of Bangladeshis to swell their Votebanks!! Musharraf is better than our UPA Politicians in that respect!
RE:The same not possible in India
by prakash kumar on Jul 07, 2007 01:29 PM Permalink
it cannot happen in India because India is full of opportunist politicians without any principals but just greed for power and kursi... they will sell their mothers for votebanks!!
RE:The same not possible in India
by sudip upadhyay on Jul 07, 2007 01:38 PM Permalink
very true . INDIAN POLITICIANS ARE PIMPS WHO DO NOT EVEN SPARE THERE MOTHER
RE:Lal Masjid
by Romesh Khandelwal on Jul 07, 2007 01:32 PM Permalink
Thats really a dam intellgent thought !!! How come Dubai, is so away from terrorism, still sharing borders with Saudi Arabia??? Why Malasia 'a muslim country' is the hot destination for tourist from all over the world??
Seems , they haven't allowed the dirty politicians to spoil their 'fun loving and cosmopoliton' enviroment.
But still, keeping in mind the terrorist nature of Pakistan, instead of condeming it, I would first like to see what we Indians are doing with ourselves.
We are Idiots not because we are burning our own housing by fighting with each other, but we are idiots because : 1) We love to say dirty words to each other on rediff like forums. 2) We no mind fools, who are playing in he hands of our own , elected by us only, politicians. 3) And we always play blame game with our neighbour.
" Bura jo dekhn mein chala bura na milya koi,... jo apan andar jhankia, mujhse bura na koi"..
May be i havent put the "muhavara" in correct way, but my feeling are very clear.
It is me , who is the biggest criminal, coz I m sitting on computer and giving advices to the world, instead I should stand up and try to do something really productive to make my country proud of. We all are proud to be Indians, but when will India will be proud of Us?
If the some of the clerics has misguided the ignorant pupils. It doesnt mean their is shortcomings in the religion. Before hatred period (demolition of babri masjid) I had never heard in my life that in teachings of Islam there is a virtue in killing non muslims. It is pity that every time these extremists in the name of religion want to kill people. Enticement is the game.
RE:Actions for Muslims
by rahul on Jul 07, 2007 01:28 PM Permalink
Hindu partisan historians say that in the year 1527 the Muslim invader Babur came down from Ferghana in Central Asia and attacked the Hindu King of Chittodgad, Rana Sangrama Singh at Sikri and with the help of cannons and artillery (used in India for the first time) overcame Rana Sangrama Singh and his allies.
After this victory, Babar decided to spread terror among the subjugated Hindu population. His general, Mir Baqi was in charge of the region. Mir Baqi came to Ayodhya in 1528 and gave special attention to the main and biggest temple in the town. This was the temple which was built on the place where Samrat Shri Ramachandra, an ancient King of India was born. Samrat Shri Ramachandra was (and still is) revered by the devout among the Hindus as a god, also referred to as Rama, believed by Hindus to be an avatar of Vishnu.
Babar, whose general Mir Baqi allegedly destroyed this temple at Ayodhya, built by the Hindus to commemorate their king Samrat Ramchandra. Mir Baqi built a mosque at the site of the destroyed temple. This was called the Babri Masjid (Mosque), named after King Babar.
RE:RE:Actions for Muslims
by Aris on Jul 07, 2007 01:35 PM Permalink
you dodn't mentiones Rana Sangha invited Babar to attack on Lodhis.... God Babar attack on India was to target the rulers of Delhi a muslim Lodhi King... showing how you people temper history
RE:Actions for Muslims
by prakash kumar on Jul 07, 2007 01:20 PM Permalink
when pakistan was formed there were like 40% hindu/sikh population in what is now pakistan and not 11% as you state...! Even our loud secular Manmohan had to leave pakistan and settle in India....
RE:RE:Actions for Muslims
by Rehman on Jul 07, 2007 01:27 PM Permalink
Any kind of genocide either done by muslims or Hindus is horrendous and unpardonable. But it is pity that hindus taking pride in Gujarat Genocide.
RE:RE:RE:Actions for Muslims
by Ravikant Bhat on Jul 07, 2007 01:30 PM Permalink
ha ! if muslims can take pride in the genocide of hindus, it's hardly a surprise if hindus are incited into talking proudly about gujarat riots !
mind you, hindus never left their land to conquer foreign lands and impose their religion and ideology, muslims have. they still dream about converting the hindu population in the country... and making it muslim... no wonder they have been responsible for so many riots...
RE:Actions for Muslims
by PRADEEP MENON on Jul 07, 2007 02:06 PM Permalink
Exactly. We hindus are staying in our lands. We didn't go anywhere converting people to our relegion. But other religions, be it christianity or islam have mistaken our tolerance for weakness and looted us, forcefully converted us and tried to bring us down in as many ways they can do those. But the spirit of hinduism survived. It has survived for 5000 years, it will survive another 5000.
What happend in Gujarat is bad, but what about the innocent people of Godhare who were burnt alive,your saying is like u throw stone at some body and expect that he will throw flower then u are wrong every one is not Mahtma
RE:Actions for Muslims
by sudip upadhyay on Jul 07, 2007 01:41 PM Permalink
why in every terrorist activity muslims are involved. definitely something is wrong with the religion.
RE:RE:Actions for Muslims
by Aris on Jul 07, 2007 02:18 PM Permalink
You Sudip even don't see news... & making statement .... In Assam, Andhra, Bihar, Jharkand, Chattisgarh....who is involved
RE:Actions for Muslims
by prakash kumar on Jul 07, 2007 01:22 PM Permalink
Religion is all good and great !!! its just sheer coincidence that 99% of terrorists in the world are muslims....!!!
Dude...get out of brainwash and start thinking !!
After all no tibetan has blown himself because china occupied their country....
RE:Actions for Muslims
by Aris on Jul 07, 2007 01:37 PM Permalink
but Hindu sorryyyyyyy Tamil hindus are pioneer in societ bombs. Don't ignore your tamil brothers. & your Assamese Hinu brothers also
RE:Actions for Muslims
by Ravikant Bhat on Jul 07, 2007 01:31 PM Permalink
I can only pity your ignorance. The spread of Islam is perhaps one of the bloodiest chapters in human civilizational history and yet we have someone who pleads ignorance !
Go wash your eyes and face and revisit the history texts (overwhelmingly written by the leftist historians and published by the Congress governments)... yet these mention the slaughter committed by the Muslims in the country...
Won't you like to revisit the Somnath temple that was razed by Mahmud of Ghazni... there are many more instances.
Learn to accept history rather than twisting the Quranic verses to say Islam does not preach violence...it may not be, but then its followers have and continue to misinterpret the Holy Quran !
RE:Actions for Muslims
by Rehman on Jul 07, 2007 01:34 PM Permalink
It is upto you..still to revive the bad memories of past or to create a future of humanity and prosperity
RE:RE:Actions for Muslims
by Aris on Jul 07, 2007 02:08 PM Permalink
follow & share your wife with brothers before discussion evil with your zero knowledge...
Peace is not merely the absense of violence its a presence of justice...
where is justice...
Assam, Andhra, Bihar, Jharkand, Chattisgarh... where Hindus or tribal hindus are fighting for justice.........
RE:Actions for Muslims
by Karthikeyan B on Jul 07, 2007 01:45 PM Permalink
Aris, correct your statement. Gita did not say kill your cousins. It says Kill Adharma. And Adhrama is defined as evil behaviour not non-believers etc.
The problem with you is exactly manifested in your statement. You still see the evil doers as cousins and that is what is wrong with Islam today. They need to ostracise the terror elements.
RE:Actions for Muslims
by Aris on Jul 07, 2007 02:07 PM Permalink
when it comes to Gita then you talk about context When it comes to Quarn then you atke only one line..... the versus stated clearly , when you are attacked then you fight 7 kill all nonbelievers who wanted to elimate you & if tehy don't want to fight then escort them to thier area with respect.
What after UN resulation if nobody is interested in making Palestine estate. If Muslims are being killed in refugees camps... If you say fight in this situstion is against mankinf then i can laugh at you.....
If court cann't decide Babri case then its not a muslims fault. Eveybody in India knows who were behind the demolation but what happened
What step Indian govenment is taking to punish people involving in carnages like gujarat... it happens all the time ..
RE:RE:RE:Actions for Muslims
by Sonu Madhavan on Jul 07, 2007 02:02 PM Permalink
wrong dude gita just has to do ur deed (good deed) and forget about the fruits the war of Mahabharat was fought between to side the pandavas who represent goodnnes and Kaurva who represent bad and eveil it wasn/t fought between the people of two religion U know in gita the word dhram which means religion is used and the Lord Krishan himself says that dhram means truth and justice and god says that where truth and justice is there is dhram and with dhram I am always
In our holy books it is said that a true and good humane being will go to heaven not a Hindu
RE:RE:RE:RE:Actions for Muslims
by Aris on Jul 07, 2007 02:11 PM Permalink
Discussion is only for lines not for context.. so just discuss with full of stupitidy...... you take one line from Quran ... I take from Gita ... I know Gita is also right in its context but ..... you all the talking just a line about Quran... read it then critise
It is high time now that all true educated muslims communicate with their fellow brothers. Encourage them to follow the right path. Shun violence and have Shabr. Remember the prophet has initiated the promotion of islam through preaching and not violence. Violence was resorted at much later stage when atrocities has extended its limit and survival of believer had become difficult.
An Islamic State, does not think twice before using arms & ammunition on terrorists, who are holed up inside a mosque. Imagine if this had to happen in India..... we will have all our politicians making a big hue and cry, stating that force should not be used inside a mosque, just to hold on to their vote bank.
Please keep Gujarat out. What led to Guarat roits we all know. Who provoked hindus by burning a coach in Gohara? Please do not use congress's language. Everywhere Hindus retaliated upon being provoked. Be it Maliana, Jamshedpur, Mumbai or Gujarat
RE:Islam.
by Rehman on Jul 07, 2007 01:17 PM Permalink
Hindus retaliation if it was against the real culprits who burnt the coach would have been justified. But they went deep very low by killing the innocents.
RE:Islam.
by Karthikeyan B on Jul 07, 2007 01:50 PM Permalink
Rehman, Jinnah famously quoted that riots were a result of spontaneous public outrage and not an organised one. If that is the case, even Hindus are human enough to have gone mad. Gujarat is one instance in the entire 60 year history of India and you cry about it. What about the innumberable riots earlier. What about Kashmiri Pandits who were driven out. Havent Hindus been divine enough to pardon Muslims every now and then. Then why cannot Muslims also forgive and forget even if Gujarat is believed to be caused by Hindus
RE:If this would have happened in India Mulayam, PM and amar Singh would have protested
by Manoj Mehta on Jul 07, 2007 01:16 PM Permalink
Yes Haatim, you are right. Muslims here gets unnecesary supports from all these stupid politicians just because they think they will get more votes if they support Muslims irrespective of the activities even by Criminals. Case of Afzal who is still alive despite of verdict of death is a shining example of the same.
RE:If this would have happened in India Mulayam, PM and amar Singh would have protested
by vishal mehta on Jul 07, 2007 01:43 PM Permalink
if u want to support lal masjid people please go to pakistan and please take care of those people but fot that u will have to leave india
RE:RE:If this would have happened in India Mulayam, PM and amar Singh would have protested
by prakash kumar on Jul 07, 2007 01:09 PM Permalink
very true...!! This also proves that an intelligent dictator is better than bunch of stupid morons running a democracy and appeasing any kind of people for vote banks !!
RE:If this would have happened in India Mulayam, PM and amar Singh would have protested
by Karthikeyan B on Jul 07, 2007 01:46 PM Permalink
No, there would not be protests. The leaders would have sent the army men without guns and bullets and asked to fight the enemy with hands tied. And they will provide food and water for survival for those inside the mosque.